Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging

[Zippy]

The use of Wail for Responses, and continuous for Bushfire Emergency may be wise to promote.  Hysteria is something we've gotta avoid, and so is politics!

[SA Firey]

Siren used to be continuous for a Fire Call, and Wail(3 times)for All Clear, otherwise the schools would'nt let the kids on the school buses until they heard it.

[Alan (Big Al)]

At least it was a job worthy of the siren going even if it was for 10 seconds only 

Ah yes Al but was it worth getting the truck "bogged" as well

I didn't bogg it so i don't mind.

[misterteddy]

Can probably expect that to be even worse now that the Mitcham Hills community has campaigned for the sirens to be used for evacuations Darren. I can just imagine the siren noise from Upper Sturt or Coromandel Valley being heard in blackwood and causing mass hysteria.

or wait for the gridlock to occur fisrt time they go off as everyone tries to drive home

just goes to show that we cant get the message we want across to people...time for a new message....and a new method

[Alex]

Mmmmm what is more concerning, is that i live in Coro Valley and just received a letter from the CFS explaining this system, however im guessing we shouldnt have since it doesnt apply to this area... Could be a problem since the siren here activates for all incident types.

[bittenyakka]

well our siren goes for everything and is on wail so you can tell the difference between it and aldgate's and summertown which are continuous.

[mattb]

What is the advantage to the siren sounding for all jobs ?? Is this for the benefit of the brigade, i.e. the possibility of a pager not activating, or is it for the community to alert them to an incident ?? I'm just curious as what the thought process was for the Lofty Group in having a siren sound for every job.

For info it is possible to setup the FSI to only activate the siren at certain times on certain days of the week, or between certain months if that was what you wanted. It is also possible to use other keywords to activate the siren (apart from URGMSG or CFSRES) so you may use a combination of CFSRES and GRASS FIRE and set some time limits if you only wanted it to activate for rural fires in summer. There is a fair bit of flexibility in the system once you start to dig down and play with it.

For info we don't have a siren at all at Morphett Vale, hasn't been an issue for us.

[mattb]

Looks like since the latest BOMS upgrade there has been some formatting changes to the response pager messages.

It appears that now a few spaces are being missed and words are running into each other, just to make life that little bit more confusing for guys responding to incidents.

MFS: *CFSRES INC021 16/01/09 11:25,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,RUWOLDTRD,YAHL MAP 000 0 0 TG226,ALARM IN CEILING SPACE AT THE OAKSNURSI,NG HOME THEY ARE EVAC PATIENTS,YAHL00 MTG701

MFS: *CFSRES INC019 16/01/09 10:41,RESPOND Tree Down,40 STURTAPP,FLAGSTAFF HILL MAP 166 K 6,TREE DOWN ON HOUSE, BLOCKING ACCESSTO D,OOR. P3. RICKY 0416 389 994,STT020

MFS: *CFSRES INC017 16/01/09 10:26,RESPOND ALARM 40/111,FLINDERS MEDICALCENTRE,FLINDERS DR,BEDFORD PARK MAP 153 K 5 TG182,FIP MIMIC-SOUTHWARD MAIN FOYER ENTRY,,ADL205 STM409 OHH421

MFS: *CFSRES INC014 16/01/09 09:35,RESPOND Smoke in Area,CHARFORDST,ELIZABETH NORTH MAP 52 B 5 TG182,SMELL OF SMOKE TOWARDS ELIZSHOPPING CEN,TRE AROUND CHARFORD ST,SAIR55 ELZ331

MFS: *CFSRES INC001 16/01/09 00:00,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,81 NORTHRD,NAIRNE MAP 162 A 8 TG128,SINGLE CAR ROLL OVER,MBKR19 NAIR00

Not a major drama but you would think with an upgrade you would also see an improvement, not a reduction in service (although anyone that has used Vista may also be able to relate to that).

[Zippy]

lol fail...its a glitch they probably havent noticed yet... There appears to be no correlation to amount of Characters...just merely where the glitch occurs.

Id like to see the Time of Day moved to the End of Message, after the Callsigns responded.

[Darren]

Easiest way to get something done is to complain, but don't complain to the comms guys, complain to region or CFS HQ and get them to chase it up via DO Moir, THEN something will get done.

[safireservice]

Easiest way to get something done is to complain, but don't complain to the comms guys, complain to region or CFS HQ and get them to chase it up via DO Moir, THEN something will get done.

Yeah right.

[Hazmat206]

1909800 03:46:48 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 17/01/09 03:47,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,LEARMONTHTCE,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 OAK301 CFS State Air Desk
 
1909800 03:30:56 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 17/01/09 03:32,RESPOND Tree Fire,DURAND TCE,ENFIELDMAP 94 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 OAK301 CFS State Air Desk

1909800 03:19:22 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 17/01/09 03:19,RESPOND RUBBISH
 FIRE,DARLINGTONST,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 11 TG182,CNR MAIN NORTH,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk

1930428 03:16:30 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 17/01/09 03:17,RESPOND ALARM 37/040,ENFIELD PLAZA,449MAIN NORTH RD,ENFIELD MAP 94 E 9 TG182,FIP MAIN ENTRY,,OAK303 APK361ADL202 MFS Stn 20

1909800 03:15:22 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC014 17/01/09 03:16,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,WARWICKST,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 14 TG182,BEHIND MCDONALDS ON MAIN NTH RD,SAIR55OAK301 CFS State Air Desk

1909800 03:06:03 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 17/01/09 03:07,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,LEARMONTHTCE,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk
 
1909187 03:03:32 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 17/01/09 03:04,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,1130 NORTH EASTRD,ST AGNES MAP 84 N 14 TG182,FIRECRACKER HAS HIT PREMISES,SMOKECOMING FROM ROOF SPACE,GGV311 TTGY19 OAK303 CFS Para Group Officers Response

1909800 02:40:07 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC009 17/01/09 02:41,RESPOND Tree Fire,COX TCE,NORTHFIELDMAP 94 Q 8 TG182,,SAIR55 OAK301 CFS State Air Desk

Busy time for Oakden

[safireservice]

Well that is what they get paid for.  (Considering a couple of them are Prospect  )

[Darius]

I'm just curious as what the thought process was for the Lofty Group in having a siren sound for every job.

don't believe everything (or should that be 'anything') you read on here.  Under what circumstances a siren sounds is decided between the brigade and their local community (as per the CFS siren policy), sirens are not sounded for every job at every brigade in Mt Lofty group.  Those brigades that do trigger on CFSRES are on a day/night timer.

[mattb]

Easiest way to get something done is to complain, but don't complain to the comms guys, complain to region or CFS HQ and get them to chase it up via DO Moir, THEN something will get done.

Done mate, Mr Bau and Mr Scarce were notified once it was noticed, my issue is that it will cause TIM to read out the wrong words / names, not mention it is confusing for the guys trying to read a pager at 3am.

[rescue5271]

Matt,you just give the pager to the wife to read while you get dressed.....

[Pipster]

Does that mean the wife is quicker at getting dressed, and is already to go, before the fellas are out of bed ?      

Pip

[Firey9119]

1908960 13:22:11 18-01-09 ALL MEMBERS ARE REMINDER THEY MUST RESPOND RHF STATION AND NOT TO THE SCENE OF AN INCIDENT THIS IS TO ENSURE A QUICK RESPONSE AND THE SAFETY OF ALL MEMBERS CFS Range/Hope Forest Info


 

[SA Firey]

MFS: *CFSRES INC050 18/01/09 15:48,RESPOND Assist Police,53 BRAYST,PLYMPTON PARK MAP 141 C 4 TG182,RENDER CHEMICALS SAFE,POSSIBLECLANDESTINE LAB,ADL202 MFS Stn 20

[Zippy]

1908960 13:22:11 18-01-09 ALL MEMBERS ARE REMINDER THEY MUST RESPOND RHF STATION AND NOT TO THE SCENE OF AN INCIDENT THIS IS TO ENSURE A QUICK RESPONSE AND THE SAFETY OF ALL MEMBERS CFS Range/Hope Forest Info


 

Pretty much, the persons asking for no one to drive directly to the incident in private vehicles.... yep..once you reach the Sub-50 Calls a year brigades,  weird things happen.

[Zippy]

12:42:15   19-01-09   INFO: REQUIRE DRIVER TO TAKE MOORAK 34 TO ISUZU AND PICK UP BWD RESCUE TOMORROW AFTERNOON. BWD CPT 0418847624 CFS Blackwood Info

The Cow's are still out and about...woulda thought moo 34 woulda died by now...

[mattb]

Well we were told about six months ago that Moorak was off to be scrapped, since then it has been offered back to us as a spare but our group have refused to take it due to the rust in the cab.

For info Gumeracha 24 has returned to Morphett Vale for the moment, whilst our 24 has a pump issue fixed. Our guys ended up repairing the plumbing on the Gum truck ourselves to get it operational.

[Zippy]

something that probably hasnt been thought of is the assigning of new appliances as Regional spares, located at busy stations like Morphett vale.

Morphett Vale could have Region 1 Alpha 34....and one day Meadows 24 breaks down, and bam...theyve got a 34 within 2 hours!

[Shiner]

Not so sure about that one Zippy, many brigades do not shower love and affection on any 'spare' truck like they do on their own - eg damage, swapping things that are better then they already have over! (or just removing them...).

Would take a keen eye and an active brigade to be in charge of the spare to keep on top of that and pull up the offenders, especially if trucks are passed between brigades/groups without being returned to their 'home' station.

[Bagyassfirey]

11:37:22 20-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 20/01/09 11:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BOUNDARY RD,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,CALLER FROM SANCTUARY DR REPORTS SMOKE I,N AREA OF BOUNDRY RD/ BOSTON HOUSE,SAIR55 PLI549 MFS Pt Lincoln Response

11:41:15 20-01-09 CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 563 & 564 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, PT LINCOLN, 200 DEGREES, 9 KMS FROM PTLINCAB. INC NO 847513. > 20/01/2009 11:41:03 AM CFS HQ Air Ops Response

11:44:28 20-01-09 CFS: AIR SUPPORT RESPONDING TO PT LINCOLN INCIDENT. INCIDENT CONTROLLER MONITOR TG 007. > 20/01/2009 11:44:15 AM CFS Lincoln Response

11:44:32 20-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 20/01/09 11:45,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BOUNDARY RD,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,ASSIST MFS AT REQUEST OF REGIONAL COMMAN,DER,,SAIR55 LINC00 CFS Lincoln Response

*READ PAGE TIMES*

you wuld think after last tuesday MFS and CFS would be responded at same time to any rural incident regardless if it in MFS or CFS area.