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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3500 on: February 25, 2013, 01:16:45 PM »
Good, they have been given ample chances to specialize in something, do air support etc, but it's just embarrassing to watch now, CFS it's time to end the carnage.

They've had RCR completely taken off them, and does Air Ops even get used operationally? Or does it collect dust?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3501 on: February 25, 2013, 09:27:32 PM »
yes i believe the brigade has used to air support, and the rcr gear was actually one of i believe 8 or so brigades that had the rcr rapid intervention, with cfs taking the stance of what it costs to maintain them, and if actual rcr coverage is needed, then a full rcr kit will be supplied, i do believe i saw a page from a brigade with a volvo pumper which did not conform to the ideals either,

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3502 on: February 27, 2013, 06:06:22 AM »
Good, they have been given ample chances to specialize in something, do air support etc, but it's just embarrassing to watch now, CFS it's time to end the carnage.

They've had RCR completely taken off them, and does Air Ops even get used operationally? Or does it collect dust?

Not completely from what I hear Raven...

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3503 on: February 27, 2013, 06:36:53 AM »
Good, they have been given ample chances to specialize in something, do air support etc, but it's just embarrassing to watch now, CFS it's time to end the carnage.

They've had RCR completely taken off them, and does Air Ops even get used operationally? Or does it collect dust?

Not completely from what I hear Raven...

Just curious as I personally haven't seen it do much.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3504 on: March 03, 2013, 05:34:54 PM »
18:27:50 03-03-13 CONCORDIA, GAWLER MFS, LYNDOCH 24 & 34P. SAAS, ON SCENE OF MOTORBIKE ACCIDENT, SANDY CREEK. HELICOPTER LANDING BEING ORGANISED. LYNDOCH STATION - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

18:13:18 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Lyndoch Response
 
18:00:03 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 34P LEFT STATION FOR INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

17:56:39 03-03-13 LYNDOCH STATION OPEN FOR INC 74 - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:53:48 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE*:lYND34P : - CFS Lyndoch Response
 
17:47:55 03-03-13 CONC: *CFSRES: CONCORDIA CFS RESPONDING TO INCIDENT 03-03-13 17:47 - CFS Concordia Response

17:43:01 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE :CONC34 GAW359 : - CFS Concordia Response


Just a few questions, now i'm not in a bad mood or picking on any one, just curious! :lol:

How come Lyndoch responded both their appliances when only one was paged, especially when Concordia CFS & Gawler MFS were already on scene, a bit of over kill in personnel for a single MVA. I'm sure Lyndoch were aware 359 & Concordia were on scene? What is the response protocol in the CFS?

Secondly, is a page on nearly every movement really necessary?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3505 on: March 03, 2013, 06:11:56 PM »
18:27:50 03-03-13 CONCORDIA, GAWLER MFS, LYNDOCH 24 & 34P. SAAS, ON SCENE OF MOTORBIKE ACCIDENT, SANDY CREEK. HELICOPTER LANDING BEING ORGANISED. LYNDOCH STATION - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

18:13:18 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Lyndoch Response
 
18:00:03 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 34P LEFT STATION FOR INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

17:56:39 03-03-13 LYNDOCH STATION OPEN FOR INC 74 - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:53:48 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE*:lYND34P : - CFS Lyndoch Response
 
17:47:55 03-03-13 CONC: *CFSRES: CONCORDIA CFS RESPONDING TO INCIDENT 03-03-13 17:47 - CFS Concordia Response

17:43:01 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE :CONC34 GAW359 : - CFS Concordia Response


Just a few questions, now i'm not in a bad mood or picking on any one, just curious! :lol:

How come Lyndoch responded both their appliances when only one was paged, especially when Concordia CFS & Gawler MFS were already on scene, a bit of over kill in personnel for a single MVA. I'm sure Lyndoch were aware 359 & Concordia were on scene? What is the response protocol in the CFS?

Secondly, is a page on nearly every movement really necessary?

I've seen Lyndoch sending both appliances to tree downs.

And I was going to post about this, what's the point on paging things like that?

16:17:11 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P & BAROSSA LOGISTICS CAR HAVE RESPONDED TO RCR ANGAS VALLEY RD SANDERSON,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

16:29:46 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P SITREP,MT PLEASANT 24P, BAROSSA LOGISTICS CAR,SAPOL,SAAS & HELICOPTER ON SCENE,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

17:13:42 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P SITREP,HELICOPTER WITH PATEINT ON BOARD HAS LEFT THE SCENE. LOGISTICS CAR & MT PLEASANT 24P HAVE LEFT THE SCENE & RETURNUNG TO STATION,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

17:23:12 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P SITREP SAPOL STILL ON SCENE AWAITING TOW TRUCK. MT PLEASANT 24P & BAROSSA LOGISTICS CAR BACK AT STAION ,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3506 on: March 03, 2013, 06:25:19 PM »
Welcome to Barossa Group
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3507 on: March 03, 2013, 06:27:54 PM »
Welcome to Barossa Group

Wwwwwhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy??????
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3508 on: March 04, 2013, 10:39:04 AM »
Stats maybe?

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3509 on: March 04, 2013, 10:43:03 AM »
Stats maybe?

Stats? How would that effect the stats?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3510 on: March 04, 2013, 02:22:06 PM »
I was refering to how many times an appliance is used for the sake of keeping it and the viability of having the CFS in an area.

http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3511 on: March 04, 2013, 02:37:21 PM »
I was refering to how many times an appliance is used for the sake of keeping it and the viability of having the CFS in an area.

http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html

Makes sense.

But keeping statistics like that... Really? It's a little sad.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3512 on: March 04, 2013, 02:59:59 PM »
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Quote from: flyonthewall on Today at 08:52:06 AM

I was refering to how many times an appliance is used for the sake of keeping it and the viability of having the CFS in an area.

http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html



Makes sense.

But keeping statistics like that... Really? It's a little sad.

The stats on their website look pretty 'normal' to me...

Although I am not in CFS, I think that their data is great for raising the professional profile of both the organisation as well as a sound recruitment tool..

(I do wonder about all of the info pages that are sent, but if the recipients dont mind receiving them AND they have a resource to send them AND the messages add value to the role that CFS is undeetaking during the incident AND they aren't in breach of any policy, procedure and protocol - then meh what does it matter..!!! lol)  8-) :lol: :lol:

Maybe I am missing something here..???

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3513 on: March 05, 2013, 01:31:02 PM »
And more...

05-03-13 14:59:51   w/t 24p and lynd 34p responded to inc 0051 THANKS : BAROSSA CONTROL 5/03/2013 2:42:45 PM - CFS Williamstown Info
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3514 on: March 05, 2013, 05:32:46 PM »
No need to post them all. They do it for every call they have.

Theyve been criticised previously for how ridiculous it is. If the brigade members and Groupies need to know they should monitor GRN voice.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3515 on: March 05, 2013, 05:36:39 PM »
I personally would have a fit about it.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3516 on: March 05, 2013, 08:54:24 PM »
Do they use the apprpriate K codes and radio sitreps or is it all paged?

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3517 on: March 06, 2013, 11:35:51 AM »
Not to mention they self respond to calls in other brigade areas
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3518 on: March 06, 2013, 03:04:20 PM »
Being ex member of the Barossa Group I have some inside understanding.
The brigades have been requested to page to the groupies when mobile and when back in station, and most brigades there page when station closing. 
The pages for mobile I found as a member helpful. If I was a distance away as was heading there for the callout and was told both appliances had left then there is no need for me to 'rush' to the station, instead I could make other stops as neccesary.
Same for paging back, no need to drop past station to see if needed.
All the rest always seemed a waste of time, energy, batteries, patience, etc.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3519 on: March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM »
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?


06-03-13 19:56:53   
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3520 on: March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM »
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?


06-03-13 19:56:53   
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3521 on: March 07, 2013, 07:13:38 AM »
I would have thought it should be MFS only going to these.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3522 on: March 07, 2013, 07:46:53 AM »
I would have thought it should be MFS only going to these.


If it was in MFS area, then yes, but it is about 3km west of the MFS/CFS Boundary between Elizabeth/Virginia, and the Northern side of the expressway at that interchange is Dalkeith.


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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3523 on: March 07, 2013, 07:50:08 AM »
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?


06-03-13 19:56:53   
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.

Funny, I suggested just that - get a drip torch, and burn it all, but then you have to wonder if the numpty lighting it would just find somewhere else that would get a way a whole lot easier.  At least these are contained by bitumen (in most cases).

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3524 on: March 07, 2013, 12:58:47 PM »
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?


06-03-13 19:56:53   
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.

Looks like someone didnt get the message:

14:02:29   07-03-13   MFS: *CFSRES INC0052 07/03/13 14:01 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HEASLIP RD PENFIELD,MAP:ADL 40 L15,TG 102, ==MULCH SMOULDERING ON MEDIAN STRIP NEAR WOMMA RD == :AIRDESK ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth 331

 

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