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Offline NicholasBerry

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3775 on: May 11, 2014, 03:45:00 AM »
This needs to stop, why page the SES
MFS: *CFSRES INC0005 11/05/14 01:08 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL ADELAIDE 254 WRIGHT ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 C14,TG C156 T186, :ADL204 : - MFS Adelaide Turnout
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MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 11/05/14 01:08 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL P2 : @PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL ADELAIDE 254 WRIGHT ST ADELAIDE MAP:ADL 118 C14,CALLER: == STOKES LITTER REQ TO EXTRICATE PERSON FROM PSTAIRS :SNOTIFY C WAD20 R : - SES Western Adelaide Info
CREW STAND BY MFS CONDUCTING SIT REP - SES Western Adelaide Info
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MFS: WAD - STOP FOR INC 001 FROM MFS THANKS. - SES Western Adelaide Info


BECAUSE it was paged as a RESCUE which means we all get called for it. So rather than be a filtered and ignorantly  and say 'why page the SES' like a fool how about you say why don't Adelaide fire send the page correctly and make it an assist SAAS job like it actually is.

It's like saying why are MFS called to rescue when the only service with any right to rescue and the ultimate agency for rescue is SAPOL!!

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3776 on: May 11, 2014, 02:51:11 PM »
...why don't Adelaide fire send the page correctly and make it an assist SAAS job like it actually is...

I don't think 'Assist SAAS' exists as a response type in SACAD, so for these jobs they have a choice between either 'Assist resident' (which doesn't pick up a rescue resource) or 'Rescue General'.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3777 on: May 11, 2014, 02:58:02 PM »
...why don't Adelaide fire send the page correctly and make it an assist SAAS job like it actually is...

I don't think 'Assist SAAS' exists as a response type in SACAD, so for these jobs they have a choice between either 'Assist resident' (which doesn't pick up a rescue resource) or 'Rescue General'.

Actually it does exist it is just never used, there are several to choose from.
- Assist Resident
- Assist SAAS
- Assist Other ESO
- Assist non-ESO/Other

Even if they did "Assist Resident" which doesnt pick rescue, it isnt very hard to change the appliance that goes... Additionally the information that was given was that a rescue litter was required, if that was the case then any appliance sitting in Adelaide Station 20 would have been acceptable particularly 201, 202, 203 or 204.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3778 on: May 11, 2014, 10:12:51 PM »

"Assist SAAS" does NOT exist in SACAD in the form of a response type. At this point in time.
The "Assist SAAS" in SACAD was to be used as part of intercad ; ie a job SAAS comms would send to the fire service CAD requesting assistance, which would have its incident type updated based on the details of the call.


The agreed upon procedure by all agencies is that if the assistance is for man power only the closest resource will be responded as "Asisst Resident", if there is difficult extrication then the appropriate response type: eg, rescue general/industrial/heights is to be used to respond special resources.


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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3779 on: May 12, 2014, 11:16:31 PM »
Mr Berry, do some research, its a request from SES management that anything like that is rescue general, so yeah, MFS comms are just doing what they are told.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3780 on: May 28, 2014, 03:10:36 PM »
MFS: *CFSRES INC0047 28/05/14 14:21 RESPOND HAZMAT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, :OPPOSITE NUMBER 6A BLACKER RD ALDINGA BEACH,MAP:ADL 223 D 7,TG 132, ==WORKMAN RUNNING GENERATOR INSIDE BUILDING NOW DIZZY. GENERATOR OFF NOW. :ALDB34P HZ PEARCE R1 MARTIN WLLG24P H : - CFS Willunga Response

And the idiot of the year award goes to?

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3781 on: May 30, 2014, 08:13:10 AM »
10:44:31 29-05-14 CFS Volunteer Association Roadshow at Coonawarra Hall 19:30 hours tonight 29/05 . New look Emergency Services. Please be there to provide your input. Brian. - CFS R5 Info

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3782 on: May 30, 2014, 03:19:50 PM »
30-05-14 14:29:05   MFS: *CFSRES INC0049 30/05/14 13:13 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, AUGUSTA HWY/COPPER COAST HWY PORT WAKEFIELD,MAP:C/233 54,TG 104, == CAR ROLLOVER UNSURE IF PERSON INSIDE :BALA34 LCHL34 NANT14 : - CFS Nantawarra Response

30-05-14 14:32:31   MFS: ADDITIONAL INFO FOR INC049 KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR PERSON WALKING ALONG ROAD ON THE WAY TO THE INCIDENT, DRIVER MISSING, ***DO NOT APPROCH PERSON DANGOURS*** CONTACT DGO ANDREW ALDRUM ON GRN104 IF PERSON SIGHTED - CFS Balaklava Response

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3783 on: May 31, 2014, 12:05:46 PM »
11:11:22 31-05-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0041 31/05/14 11:10 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PIGGOTT RANGE RD/CHURCH HILL RD OLD NOARLUNGA,MAP:ADL 196 C10,TG C176 T186, == FLAMES & SMOKE SIGHTED AT MEATWORKS FACTORY : DL205 CAR40 CDN431 CDN439 SEA469 SEAF34P :
Andrew Macmichael
lives at Pt Noarlunga South.

My personal opinion only.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3784 on: May 31, 2014, 05:13:19 PM »
11:11:22 31-05-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0041 31/05/14 11:10 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PIGGOTT RANGE RD/CHURCH HILL RD OLD NOARLUNGA,MAP:ADL 196 C10,TG C176 T186, == FLAMES & SMOKE SIGHTED AT MEATWORKS FACTORY : DL205 CAR40 CDN431 CDN439 SEA469 SEAF34P :

It was only a small rubbish burn. Resident had a permit.
F/F Sellicks Beach, Kyeema Group.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3785 on: June 14, 2014, 09:45:12 AM »
18:26:38 13-06-14 Hi All I have just taken the Onkaparinga SES offline until further notice.= Thanks you for your patients with these issues. Peter - CFS Lobethal Info

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3786 on: June 21, 2014, 08:33:48 AM »
Am curious as to the happy valley resource rather than the morphett vale resource - not criticising just curious..??
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1800163   07:49:31   21-06-14   MFS: *CFSRES INC0024 21/06/14 07:49 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAINS RD/PIGGOTT RANGE RD ONKAPARINGA HILLS,MAP:ADL 178 F13,TG 134, ==SINGLE CAR ROLLOVER :CDN439 HPPYPUMP :
MFS Christie Downs CDN439

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3787 on: June 21, 2014, 10:00:05 AM »
Google map that intersection and you'll see why, a lot closer to Happy Valley.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3788 on: June 21, 2014, 10:01:59 AM »
Am curious as to the happy valley resource rather than the morphett vale resource - not criticising just curious..??
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1800163   07:49:31   21-06-14   MFS: *CFSRES INC0024 21/06/14 07:49 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAINS RD/PIGGOTT RANGE RD ONKAPARINGA HILLS,MAP:ADL 178 F13,TG 134, ==SINGLE CAR ROLLOVER :CDN439 HPPYPUMP :
MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Hey mate.
That intersection (and the first part of Bains Rd) is Happy's area.
Morphett Vale's area is from Lovick Rd heading South, and the other 2/3 of Bains Rd.


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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3789 on: June 21, 2014, 10:15:57 AM »
Fair call and thanks gents... ;)

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3790 on: June 26, 2014, 09:39:09 AM »
26-06-14 08:11:05   MFS: *CFSRES INC0022 26/06/14 08:10 RESPOND AIRCRAFT LIGHT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 143 KRONDORF RD KRONDORF,MAP:C/179C 54,TG 095, ==LIGHT PLANE CRASH 2 OCCUPANTS INSIDE :NTPAPUMP R TAND34P : - CFS Angaston Group Officers Response

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3791 on: June 29, 2014, 12:47:06 AM »
28-06-14 23:06:42   MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 28/06/14 23:06 RESPOND MINOR CLEANUP, ALARM LEVEL: 1, OSMOND TCE NORWOOD,MAP:ADL 119 C 8,TG C151 T191, == 2 CAR MVA INVOLVING POLICE CAR OUTSIDE NORWOOD POLICE STATION :BLP211 : - MFS Beulah Park BLP211

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3792 on: July 08, 2014, 05:08:07 PM »
Why is this still happening.???
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08-07-14 15:48:11   BA71 PR: 2 - WAIKERIE SWK 1 A 3 D0572 Disp: 15:47 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Unit Barmera
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08-07-14 16:28:57   MFS: *CFSRES INC0056 08/07/14 16:28 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, STURT HWY/IAN OLIVER DR WAIKERIE,MAP:SWK 2 C 5,TG 205, ==TRUCK V CAR /ONE PERSON TRAPPED /OUTSIDE HONDA DEALERSHIP :WAIKPUMP WAIK RES H : - CFS Mid Murray Group Officers Response
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40 minute delay, this is a joke and makes us all look bad.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3793 on: July 11, 2014, 04:31:54 PM »
Whoa there Nelly, how do you know the SAAS page is for that job particularly looking at this page, the time and the MAP reference..


16:27:45 08-07-14 FLEX-A  ALPHA  1600  BA71 PR: 2 - WAIKERIE SWK 2 C 5 D0618 Disp: 16:27 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Barmera -

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3794 on: July 17, 2014, 06:46:08 PM »
These pager messages scheiße me

WRGCC-MILL-: AGM WATTLE RANGE OPS BRIGADE 6TH AUGUST 2014 ELECTION YEAR ALL MEMBERS REQUIRED TO ATTEND 7PM START 17/07/2014 5:55:50 PM - CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Info

not appropriate to tell people that they must attend, people have work and other commitments. See this happen far too often, some better wording would be good. Like attend if possible, apologies to mr XYZ thanks.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3795 on: September 01, 2014, 02:34:13 PM »
07:21:13 01-09-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0010 01/09/14 07:20 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, VALLEY VIEW DR/LOWER NORTH EAST RD HIGHBURY,MAP:ADL 96 K11,TG C152 T182, ==2 CAR MVA. 1 PERSON TILL IN CAR :ADL202 PDS229 : - MFS Paradise 221 Response

Paradise now running a pump/rescue? Is that to relinquish some RCR response area from Athelstone CFS and/or ease workload on 204?

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3796 on: September 01, 2014, 05:05:36 PM »
07:21:13 01-09-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0010 01/09/14 07:20 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, VALLEY VIEW DR/LOWER NORTH EAST RD HIGHBURY,MAP:ADL 96 K11,TG C152 T182, ==2 CAR MVA. 1 PERSON TILL IN CAR :ADL202 PDS229 : - MFS Paradise 221 Response

Paradise now running a pump/rescue? Is that to relinquish some RCR response area from Athelstone CFS and/or ease workload on 204?

Ultimately just another resource in the system.
With the way SACAD works though it will ease some of the pressure on 329/204 to the north eastern & eastern suburbs and better response times for rescue to the area.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3797 on: September 23, 2014, 09:40:41 AM »
23-09-14 08:45:17   Reminder meeting tonight at 1930 hrs. SA time Apsley hotel for talk on new CFA radios that are going to be fitted to our appliances. Cheers DGO 3 23/09/2014 - CFS Naracoorte Group Officers Info

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3798 on: September 23, 2014, 10:06:50 AM »
I also found this interesting. Why would they need CFA radio's? wouldnt they use GRN aswell?

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3799 on: September 23, 2014, 06:53:54 PM »
They can't use the existing GRN or VHF's as the Vic & SA radio systems aren't compatible.

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