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Chance:
Just a Quick question, what is the Standard SOP for the minimun age requirment for attending an rcr job.
have come across differnt veiws from differnt brigades.
My brigade will not let some one on the truck if they are under 18.
A friend is in a brigade that dosnt have this and also have a RCR trained member who is 17.
Also What are the rules for cutting glass. is a haulegine tool really an option?

littlejohn:

--- Quote from: Chance on October 05, 2007, 04:27:12 PM ---Just a Quick question, what is the Standard SOP for the minimun age requirment for attending an rcr job.

Also What are the rules for cutting glass. is a haulegine tool really an option?

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I've never heard of having an age restriction.
This may be a brigade choice, in an endeavour to keep younger members from seeing potentially ugly things at an MVA?
I don't know many brigades with the luxury of making this exclusion either, particularly as at most MVA scenes there is plenty to do without being directly involved in the carnage.

I'm sure you could use a hooligan tool (I presume that's what you mean?) to break glass, and it would do so very effectively. It could also be very messy!

6739264:
I don't see any reason for excluding people off trucks, based on ages. There are some 16yr olds that are closer to 20, and others that are closer to 12. Its better to have people at incidents, and then pass them off to do traffic control, or other such things. To be an effective member at future RCR's, you do need to be exposed to the trauma of RCR.

Also... HALLIGAN... Not Hooligan, or haulegine or any other name.

Are you cutting glass or breaking glass? For cutting glass, I'd use either a Glass master, Recip Saw, axe or sledge axe before even entertaining the possibility of the Halligan - Would you try to use the Metal Cutting Claw?

If you are breaking glass, I'd try to use, a glass hammer, marlin spike & lump hammer or multigrips before using the Halligan. You *could* use it, but I'd suggest it would be far more messy than any of the above options.

Zippy:
I wouldnt say no to a under 18 getting onto a truck if it means that single person makes the appliances able to go mobile ASAP, and im sure as a crew, watching out for eachother is something everyone does.


--- Quote ---To be an effective member at future RCR's, you do need to be exposed to the trauma of RCR.
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i agree to that,  as it is certainly hard the first few times....its all about learning to get the job done and minimizing stress to yourself.

chook:
SESSA - 18 there is no option. As for cutting laminated glass the hooligan tool from Fire and Rescue is excellent. Good if you want to remove the roof instead of a fold forward. By the way thats what it is called in the catalogues - a halligan tool is by a different manufacturer and has a different claw.
Yep seen young people (under 18)from CFS @ RCR's even a double incineration at KOM. Not sure how many are still active, but as a father of a seventeen year old daughter who will become an adult member in a couple of weeks, I would not have allowed her to attend an incident like that even if the service permitted it.
Cheers

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