Author Topic: VIC Bushfires (Read 229429 times)

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #450 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:04:04 AM »

looks like SES are organising a deployment for VIC

tft · « **Reply #451 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:58:55 AM »

I like all the comments about CFS looking bad with the dress uniform. But look at the poor MFS guys with PPI Gold or PPI pants and a worktop.

Zippy · « **Reply #452 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:07:58 AM »

PBI pants, and a level 1 Work top? meh...they'd cope?

Dress uniform? CFS already has one....u'd be refering to the CFS Field uniform (UNDER the Level 1 PPE)...which CFS already has one.. again. i think only 2 or 3 brigades have taken it on?

any news on the weather for tommorow in vic? eased up slightly from what im seeing, but still bad.

rescue5271 · « **Reply #453 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:14:28 AM »

FDI for tuesday are in the low 200 with strong north winds temp around 37.....Must say the MFS guys we had in our group worked well i gave the guy on our tanker a pair of real gloves rather than what they where given to use he wanted to give them back i said no you can keep them.

rescue5271 · « **Reply #454 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:39:08 AM »

Just got of the phone from oneof my many CFA contacts,they are saying strong winds of up to 150km per hour in some area's,aircraft will all be removed from the fireground by 10am on tuesday due too strong winds.There is a full article in the THE HEARLD SUN NEWS PAPER and MSN messages will be sent to all phones in Victoria....does not sound good....

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #455 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:41:35 AM »

Small rumour is some brigades are being asked to prepare their trucks for interstate deployment...but back to weather yea i think there going to be in all sorts of trouble

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #456 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:44:50 AM »

Quote from: Bill Corcoran on March 02, 2009, 10:39:08 AM

MSN messages will be sent to all phones in Victoria....does not sound good....

SMS messages?

bajdas · « **Reply #457 on:** March 02, 2009, 02:49:33 PM »

Quote from: mac13 on March 02, 2009, 08:04:04 AM

looks like SES are organising a deployment for VIC

09:06:20 02-03-09 State Page, Any members wishing to be considered for possible Vic storm deployment leaving Tuesday contact ASAP through your normal chain of command. Min Req, Basic, First Aid, Storm, and preferably chainsaw. Must be prepared for medical c SES SITREPS

Latest page today:
13:25:00 03-03-09 State Page. Victorian Deployment highly unlikely today, weather has been slower reaching Victoria than anticipated.Still a possibility for early Wednesday. Will advise later today. Regards SDO SES SITREPS

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #458 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:07:40 PM »

Quote from: misterteddy on March 02, 2009, 06:29:49 AM

On a slightly different topic.....anyone hear of the firie injured in Vic last week with burns to his lower leg? Didnt see that one make the news

Apparently stepped in a hole and burnt his leg above the boot a little.

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #459 on:** March 02, 2009, 08:14:14 PM »

Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on March 02, 2009, 08:07:40 PM

Quote from: misterteddy on March 02, 2009, 06:29:49 AM

On a slightly different topic.....anyone hear of the firie injured in Vic last week with burns to his lower leg? Didnt see that one make the news

Apparently stepped in a hole and burnt his leg above the boot a little.

that would be correct

SA Firey · « **Reply #460 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:34:32 PM »

And another one tonight
@@Inc: 903023122 Code: 2 Rcd: 22:35 Gvn: 22:36 Add: ALEXANDRA STAGE FIRST AID POST ALEXANDRA XRef: Map: UNKNOWN CC: 07A01 BURNS/EXPLOSION, BURNS <18% BODY AREA Age: F Info: FIREMAN WITH BURNS TO LOWER LEG

Zippy · « **Reply #461 on:** March 03, 2009, 10:28:31 AM »

WX for region 23

R23 WX: Tue 03/03/09. The chance of T/storms during the evening. Winds N-NE aver 35-45 km/h, up to 50 km/h. Temperatures 28-34 during the day. NE AVE TEMP: 33 RH: 25% WIND: NNE 40 G 70 GFDI: 49 FDR: V/HIGH R.O.S: 7.9 Kph. FFDI: 42 FDR: V/HIGH R.O.S: 1.41 kph. SPOT: 5.0 Km. CROWN: Yes. LAL =1 *Wed 04/03/09. Cloudy. Isolated T/storms in am. Isolated showers. Winds W-NW aver 30-40 km/h, up to 45 km/h. O/night temps falling to 11 with day temps reaching 16-22. GFDI: 45 V/HIGH. FFDI: 31 V/High. O.O. A Mills

FDI hasnt reached extreme yet..but the ROS/SPOT/CROWN aint good to see.

think theyve reduced the overall wind speed forecast, but theres still wind.

misterteddy · « **Reply #462 on:** March 03, 2009, 11:17:40 AM »

Quote from: Zippy on March 03, 2009, 10:28:31 AM

WX for region 23

R23 WX: Tue 03/03/09. The chance of T/storms during the evening. Winds N-NE aver 35-45 km/h, up to 50 km/h. Temperatures 28-34 during the day. NE AVE TEMP: 33 RH: 25% WIND: NNE 40 G 70 GFDI: 49 FDR: V/HIGH R.O.S: 7.9 Kph. FFDI: 42 FDR: V/HIGH R.O.S: 1.41 kph. SPOT: 5.0 Km. CROWN: Yes. LAL =1 *Wed 04/03/09. Cloudy. Isolated T/storms in am. Isolated showers. Winds W-NW aver 30-40 km/h, up to 45 km/h. O/night temps falling to 11 with day temps reaching 16-22. GFDI: 45 V/HIGH. FFDI: 31 V/High. O.O. A Mills

FDI hasnt reached extreme yet..but the ROS/SPOT/CROWN aint good to see.

think theyve reduced the overall wind speed forecast, but theres still wind.

really interesting to see how badly wrong the weather forecast here has been. 2 days ago...in fact even last night, talk of 140kph winds - where are they?.....not saying its a bad thing not to have them, but the accuracy of things has to be a point of concern. Following on from the "Day of Terror" last week that was a fizzer....theres a credibility issue becoming apparant that will make it harder for the public to get onside with warnings in the future

Zippy · « **Reply #463 on:** March 03, 2009, 11:26:57 AM »

the current Bom staff must be just out of Uni....

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #464 on:** March 03, 2009, 11:32:33 AM »

Quote from: Zippy on March 03, 2009, 11:26:57 AM

the current Bom staff must be just out of Uni....

or the weather has started doing strange things that it doesn't normally do, and is getting harder to predict...

bajdas · « **Reply #465 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:56:08 PM »

Quote from: misterteddy on March 03, 2009, 11:17:40 AM

Quote from: Zippy on March 03, 2009, 10:28:31 AM
WX for region 23

R23 WX: Tue 03/03/09. The chance of T/storms during the evening. Winds N-NE aver 35-45 km/h, up to 50 km/h. Temperatures 28-34 during the day. NE AVE TEMP: 33 RH: 25% WIND: NNE 40 G 70 GFDI: 49 FDR: V/HIGH R.O.S: 7.9 Kph. FFDI: 42 FDR: V/HIGH R.O.S: 1.41 kph. SPOT: 5.0 Km. CROWN: Yes. LAL =1 *Wed 04/03/09. Cloudy. Isolated T/storms in am. Isolated showers. Winds W-NW aver 30-40 km/h, up to 45 km/h. O/night temps falling to 11 with day temps reaching 16-22. GFDI: 45 V/HIGH. FFDI: 31 V/High. O.O. A Mills

FDI hasnt reached extreme yet..but the ROS/SPOT/CROWN aint good to see.

think theyve reduced the overall wind speed forecast, but theres still wind.

really interesting to see how badly wrong the weather forecast here has been. 2 days ago...in fact even last night, talk of 140kph winds - where are they?.....not saying its a bad thing not to have them, but the accuracy of things has to be a point of concern. Following on from the "Day of Terror" last week that was a fizzer....theres a credibility issue becoming apparant that will make it harder for the public to get onside with warnings in the future

Personally, I think the reaction cycle is going to be bad for the general public in the near future. For example:

ETSA still warn that they will cut electrical supply on bad fire days has a preventative. I have not heard that happen in recent years since aerial bundling of cable. BUT with lawyers threatening to sue in Victoria & Pt Lincoln, will they shutdown to be on the safe side ?? Then you will get the political consequence of people not having power on hot days... Damn'd if you do, Damn'd if you dont....

School closures & BoM warnings. No one said it was perfect & absolutely accurate. This morning I was called out because it was threatening. This is a regular occurance because if the Unit / Organisation does not pre-plan, you become reactive and behind the eight-ball toooo much. We answered two telephone calls.... Damn'd if you do, Damn'd if you dont....

If the organisation did not plan for a strike force of volunteers when it was requested, you will be reactive. The weather did not occur, so the deployment is delayed, possibly cancelled.... Damn'd if you do, Damn'd if you dont....

misterteddy · « **Reply #466 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:04:02 PM »

Yeah Bajdas...i get all that, and you're certianly right with the Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't comment.

I guess my question is about the pretty OTT approach to the weather thats been in the media in the last week. Hopefully, theres a BOM talking head put in front of the public to explain why the 140+ kph (thats Cat 2 Cyclone strength) that were forecast didnt eventuate......and not leave it to the CFA and police to wear the can for it not being as bad as predicted - otherwise...when it happens next time it's the old "It wasnt as bad as they said last time, we'll be fine" attitude prevailing

Zippy · « **Reply #467 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:07:47 PM »

@@ALERT DERE1 F090300972 G&SC1 TANKER BARUT1 REQUIRED 59 SWANSON RD DEREEL /SAVAGE HILL RD SVC 6601 B11 (419098) BARU CAPE HARD MTME ROJU SHEL TEES WERN [BARU]

@@ALERT F090301001 DERE1 G&SC1 STRIKE TEAM 1553 RESPOND CODE 1 GRASS AND SCRUB FIRE GO TO CHANNEL 21 CNR SWANSON RD/SAVAGE HILL RD DEREEL SVC 6601 B11 (419099) CAPE LINT MDAR WDUC [liNT]

@@ALERT F090301015 DERE1 G&SC1 STRIKE TEAM 1535 RESPOND CODE 1 GRASS AND SCRUB FIRE GO TO CHANNEL 21 ASSEMBLE @ CNR COLAC-BALLARAT RD/SWANSON RD DEREEL SVC 6601 C11 (424098) BREE ELAI MTBU MWAR [MTBU]

07 DEREEL SWANSON RD 03/03/2009 15:31:00 Grass Going Medium 22

South of Ballarat

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #468 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:39:34 PM »

Urgent Threat Message for Dereel, Corindhap and Rokewood
03/03/2009

Incident Information

The Dereel Swanson Road fire, burning near Dereel, is burning in a southerly direction and is estimated to be 5 to 10 hectares in size. The communities of Dereel, Corindhap and Rokewood may be directly impacted upon by this fire

Zippy · « **Reply #469 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:43:46 PM »

@@ALERT F090301047 BUNI4 G&SC1 STRIKE TEAM 1530 RESPOND CODE 1 GRASS AND SCRUB FIRE ASSEMBLE @ BUNINYONG CFA UFB LEARMONTH ST BUNINYONG /WARRENHEIP ST //MIDLAND HWY SVC 8124 F11 (545289) BARA BRAT BUNI SEBA WENO [BUNI]

Strike team 1530.

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Kilmore complex "local area brigades"...they seem to be getting a hammering of calls in there area's.

rescue5271 · « **Reply #470 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:11:43 AM »

Some areas have had good rain over night up to 25mm so much so that CFA crews are being stood down and more rain is due today....

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #471 on:** March 04, 2009, 06:11:53 AM »

MFS: SIG INC: ADVANCED WARNING. DEPLOYMENT 5015 MAY NOT BE REQD TODAY DUE TO RAIN AT FIREGROUND. MORE INFO TO FOLLOW. DSC EDEN. 04/03/2009 7:01:20 AM CFS R1 HQ Response

CFS: SIG INC: FYI: CONFIRMED DEPLOYMENT 5015 TODAY IS NOT REQUIRED - DUTY OFFICERS PLS ADVISE ALL CREWS ASAP - DSC EDEN. > 04/03/2009 7:53:53 AM CFS R3 HQ Info

THANK GOD

Zippy · « **Reply #472 on:** March 04, 2009, 10:08:34 AM »

Wouldnt have minded being on the trucks in the rain..what better work to do on a strike team, monitor a fire being automatically suppressed, at work instead now.

jaff · « **Reply #473 on:** March 04, 2009, 11:48:30 AM »

Quote from: Zippy on March 04, 2009, 10:08:34 AM

Wouldnt have minded being on the trucks in the rain..what better work to do on a strike team, monitor a fire being automatically suppressed, at work instead now.

Yeh....Mud,Smoke & Rain....might as well throw in a few cans of spam to make to make it truly ~~crap~~ memorable

6739264 · « **Reply #474 on:** March 04, 2009, 12:15:48 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on March 04, 2009, 10:08:34 AM

Wouldnt have minded being on the trucks in the rain..what better work to do on a strike team, monitor a fire being automatically suppressed, at work instead now.

Well there is keen and then there is stupid. You'd honestly rather be out, slogging around in the wet, long shifts doing essentially... nothing?

I don't know how many you've been on (not many I'd wager) but Strike Teams in the rain are about as close as I have come to necking myself on the fireground.

Author Topic: VIC Bushfires (Read 229429 times)

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