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New CFS QRV's
« on: September 27, 2009, 11:01:34 AM »
does anyone know what chassis the new QRV's are being built on?? i see at royal show that there was one on a Nissan Patrol cab chassis rather than the land cruiser. Any ideas???

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 11:25:00 AM »
Not sure about this round, but from Arthur's newsletter he seems very keen to pursue Nissan Patrols from now on. reasons as follows

1) they are cheaper
2) the axle weights are higher than the Landcruiser - specifically the front axle loading
3) everyone else is going that way

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 11:31:06 AM »
I'm pretty sure there was an email out to Brigades from from Arthur and Tech Services recently with a state of the nation type report on all the projects that they have uinderway including the change of chassis for the QRV.

If I remember correctly Patrol was selected after some issues were identified with the Toyota's subframe or brakes (cant quite remember which)..and cost  :wink:

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 11:38:23 AM »
ahhh nice i prefer a patrol (personal choice) i know there cheaper  and i thought that mite be the answer. cheers guys!

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 12:08:27 PM »
anyone know how many QRV's there will be 4 this fire season and where they are going?

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 05:41:40 PM »
Nissan Patrols I hope not I know a CFS brigade that has had nothing but trouble with their command car and I know a few lads that work for DEH that don't speak  highly of them and can't wait to get rid of them.

Problems I've heard of is ECU problems, sensor and oil leaks and I know a private owner of one his turbo destroyed it's self.

They are a capable vehicle off road but their reliabilty is of a real concern, plus how many of these do you see on mining sites where the vehicles are punished on a daily basis not many, it's usually a sea of Landcruiser utes and the new ones go real well!

No I'm not a salesman for Toyota :-D

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 10:36:40 PM »
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 08:59:20 AM »
What is the leg room like for rear seat passengers ?

I have heard it is an issue in the Nissan's (but this would be an older model than being discussed here).
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 09:20:01 AM »
What is the leg room like for rear seat passengers ?

I have heard it is an issue in the Nissan's (but this would be an older model than being discussed here).



Brilliant leg room, you can stretch out on the tray , no problem :wink:
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 10:31:51 AM »
probably shuldn laugh but oh what the heck hahahaha.  :-D

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 10:42:25 AM »
What is the leg room like for rear seat passengers ?

I have heard it is an issue in the Nissan's (but this would be an older model than being discussed here).

Brilliant leg room, you can stretch out on the tray , no problem :wink:

Yeh, but change the water tank to a bladder. Then you can have a waterbed    :-D
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 08:07:19 PM »
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 06:14:34 AM »
[OT] Was that SES 'van' as ugly as i imagine it to be? (judging from the small impression you can get from the photos)

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 06:51:16 AM »
[OT] Was that SES 'van' as ugly as i imagine it to be? (judging from the small impression you can get from the photos)

It woulda been nice if they put on display some of the more decent vehicles used by the volunteer services...to compare against the MFS Volvo...  E.g a Isuzu SES Rescue Truck & a CFS 34P latest model.

Showing off these small lil additional trucks sends particularly myself an image that we run about with lil bits of water here and there and with crew's of 2.  The public who mostly have some or no awareness of the CFS take face value to create there opinion.

And from what ive heard this car is urgently needed actually in some stations. Take a look at some of the QAV/mini-14's out there still...falling to bits & OHS nightmares.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 06:54:19 AM by Zippy »

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 08:35:55 AM »
very nice im sure a brigade somwhere round the state will benefit!

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2010, 11:13:03 AM »
The Victorian version costs $120,000. Seems very expensive for a glorified slip-on.

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2010, 09:50:28 PM »
[OT] Was that SES 'van' as ugly as I imagine it to be? (judging from the small impression you can get from the photos)

Yeah Mike it is 100% fugly...based on a Ford Transit Cab Chassis :roll:
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2010, 12:13:58 AM »
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2010, 12:14:41 AM »
[OT] Was that SES 'van' as ugly as I imagine it to be? (judging from the small impression you can get from the photos)

Yeah Mike it is 100% fugly...based on a Ford Transit Cab Chassis :roll:

And yet relatively practical for zipping around the city to various storm damage jobs. And i would imagine reasonably priced compared to some of the light truck/utility [read F350] chassis being used.

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2010, 07:14:42 AM »
[OT] They are looking at them as a fleet replacement across the board. (F350, FTS 500's.... the lot)
They may very well be practical for the metro units, but I have my doubts about the country units....

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2010, 07:35:56 PM »

last i'd heard it was to replace the hilux utes we've got as light response which if thats true it may be a better option as those utes aren't much good for anything but crew transport and very small jobs but i can't see them replacing the F250's as those are meant to tow the usar trailers which this would have no hope towing. and from what i'm hearing that van is supposed to be a 7 seater god knows how, as you'll be sitting in each others laps, and by the looks of the stowage it will be a storm damage unit and some general rescue as you won't be able to cram everything onto it like we do on the trucks now, it may work well for a stand alone road crash unit but as a general rescue truck replacement i'm doubting its use.

hopefully i'm getting to have a closer look in the next week or so might be able to get some pics up of it

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2010, 06:54:57 PM »
TasSES are going to the transits in a big way, Both as a Storm Response/General rescue vehicle and as a RAR response vehicle, no big issues I have heard of, belts for 7 but i would say 5 or 6 realistically

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 01:37:55 PM »
So has anyone been near Angle Park to see if there is any new QRV's around? Anyone know how Upper Sturt are finding there new one on the Nissan Patrol?

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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2010, 06:36:03 PM »
So has anyone been near Angle Park to see if there is any new QRV's around? Anyone know how Upper Sturt are finding there new one on the Nissan Patrol?
I saw that Tumby Bay got one a week or two ago.
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Re: New CFS QRV's
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2010, 07:26:13 PM »

Noticed that Pinnaroo's 16 (QAV) was back at Moores this week and has had a half width crew deck fitted to the drivers side.