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SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« on: December 23, 2010, 07:36:47 PM »
I was asked a question by some mates that I that I thought I would forward on to others on this forum. Do we need more SAAS stations? If so where? Or, do we have too many?

Be great to hear your thoughts

 

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2010, 10:58:00 PM »
North and south.   It's the only places development can happen.

....and ten bucks says that no agency has really started planning for any of the development that is hittingnthe papers in the past fortnight......

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2010, 07:35:12 AM »
Are you in the SAAS SOT Man Mike?

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2010, 08:05:10 AM »
Are you in the SAAS SOT Man Mike?

yes

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2010, 08:18:39 AM »
Are you in the SAAS SOT Man Mike?

yes

I find that hard to believe you are in SAAS with some of the BASIC knowledge questions you ask like "where are CSO's based".....

and I think we can safely assume your not a SOT if you are in SAAS

But in answer to your question about stations... Bored has a point about the rapid expansion north, south and now the hills will require not necessarily more stations but more crews, more PTS options and more first response (i.e SPRINT).

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2010, 08:34:21 AM »
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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2010, 08:53:25 AM »
I actually would be curious to dig deeper into the infrastructure costings that the new developments have.

To see if the capital costs for new stations, vehicles and equipment are included in the infrastructure costs associated with the sub-division developments.

For example, it is reported that the developers will pay for infrastructure costs of an additional freeway interchange. They allocate land for shopping centres. Have they done the same for emergency services ?

Personally I don't care who is providing the service, as long as the coverage is planned for.
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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2010, 11:29:34 AM »
SAAS need more staff before they look at more stations.....

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2010, 02:17:53 PM »
Again, not all uni students are bad!

What about east/south east? There aren't any stations that cover Kensington/Burnside/St Georges/Glen Osmond. The closest would be City, Campbelltown and Mitcham? Maybe Stirling, but I doubt they will be dragged down for an eastern suburbs job.

But yes, more staff are needed, considering both North and South have had coverage issues over the last couple months.
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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2010, 03:29:26 PM »
They are at least 10 cars down at present from what it should be, so management are trying to fill the void on road, listening to the the scanner today has OM,CS cars running all over the place.

DR2 is also about came across a nasty MVA at TTP today.
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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2010, 03:32:10 PM »
PTS needs revisiting to free up Paramedics for cat A and B jobs, and I don't mean more private firms!!

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2010, 03:50:22 PM »
Private PTS may actually the answer. Do we need to privatise just as Victoria did 20 years ago.
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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2010, 04:46:00 PM »
definitely is the way to go, but don't know how much the AEA would be willing to let it go.

needs to be something that is "managed" over time-  while increasing ESS skills and adjusting workload in order to ensure that no jobs are lost.  if these staff are upskilled and SAAS adjusts it's tasking so that ESS can play a more significant role than just racking up hundreds of thousands of kilometres driving from Port Adelaide to Noarlunga to FMC to the RAH to Glenside to Gawler to LMHS and back to FMC all before first crib, then I think it might just be tangible!

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2010, 04:53:24 PM »


What about east/south east? There aren't any stations that cover Kensington/Burnside/St Georges/Glen Osmond. The closest would be City, Campbelltown and Mitcham? Maybe Stirling, but I doubt they will be dragged down for an eastern suburbs job.



You obviously don't visit the paging websites very often....Stirling is regularly attending jobs in the Eastern suburbs....

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2010, 05:32:18 PM »
Do not think we need anymore SAAS stations in Adelaide. They are strategically placed throughout Metropolitan Adelaide. just need more crews to handle the increase in population and a complete change in medical direction with new ideas and not an old ideology.  :lol:

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2010, 08:17:56 PM »
There is many a SAAS para convinced PTS is dead. There is a major Victorian PTS company who has listed on the stock market recently with funds going to their expansion into NSW, WA and yes Adelaide... I read the prospectus and said company already has 100 PTS ambulances and over 300 staff.
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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2010, 09:47:44 PM »
Would this be the same one you've been telling us that "is coming" for the last 12 months?

I thought they were supposed to be kicking off July 1 2010 ?

They might be a big company, but SA is a pretty finicky market!




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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2010, 10:22:25 PM »


stifling is regularly attending jobs in the Eastern suburbs....

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Off station to suburbs like Parkside or Cumberland Park is not uncommon for Sleepy Hollow.......

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2010, 02:14:24 PM »
which station(s) cover the western suburbs? glenelg, brighton? i know there's one opposite the police station on sturt? road... are there any other stations nearby?

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2010, 04:01:49 PM »
camden park, fulham, port adelaide, brooklyn park,
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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2010, 08:47:34 PM »
ah, i see
fulham and pt. adel though? are they ever despatched to the western suburbs? between camden park/brooklyn park/marion, are there normally enough crews?

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2010, 07:10:48 AM »
Er...Fulham IS the western suburbs!


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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2010, 08:46:44 AM »
are there normally enough crews?



Marion, Brooklyn Park and Camden Park run one emergency ambulance out of station each. Lately Marion have been using ATS crews for assistance at cat A's. Also keep in mind crews at Asford control parts of the west too.   

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2010, 11:16:33 AM »
when i said western suburbs, i meant the glenelg area/beach suburbs  :-D


are there normally enough crews?



Marion, Brooklyn Park and Camden Park run one emergency ambulance out of station each. Lately Marion have been using ATS crews for assistance at cat A's. Also keep in mind crews at Asford control parts of the west too.   

Do most stations run just one emergency ambulance?

As far as i know, 2 ambulances get despatched to cat A's? How how often are they both emergency ambulances with paramedic crews?

Are SAAS looking at employing more paramedics to reduce any sort of dependence on NEPT crews?




 
 

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Re: SAAS Stations: Do we need more?
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2010, 11:49:18 AM »
when i said western suburbs, i meant the glenelg area/beach suburbs  :-D


are there normally enough crews?



Marion, Brooklyn Park and Camden Park run one emergency ambulance out of station each. Lately Marion have been using ATS crews for assistance at cat A's. Also keep in mind crews at Asford control parts of the west too.   

Do most stations run just one emergency ambulance?

As far as i know, 2 ambulances get despatched to cat A's? How how often are they both emergency ambulances with paramedic crews?

Are SAAS looking at employing more paramedics to reduce any sort of dependence on NEPT crews?




 
Answer to the first question is no. Fulham has multiple emergency ambulances, as does Cambelltown. Port Adelaide, Salisbury, Playford, Ashford, ect have two or more ambulances that attend emergencies. Some crews are ICP and others are paramedics.

Answer to the second question: Two Ambulances (in some cases 3)  are dispatched to cat A's. They might be SPRINT, designed to get to incidents quickly. To the best of my knowledge its rare to see an ATS crew attending emergencies, they are there for transfers.

And I'm not sure about the third questions.     

 

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