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SACAD
« on: August 30, 2011, 12:13:14 AM »
When does it go live? Who will praise and who will curse?

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 11:26:48 AM »
When does it go live? Who will praise and who will curse?

Word on the street is the 25th of October.  I'm guessing the government will praise, and everyone else will curse?

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 02:10:47 PM »
From the Chief Officer himself definately 25th October of course unless it is delayed........AGAIN

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 05:11:09 PM »
Dates are not set by the services, that would be coming straight from the ministers office.

Im sure there will always be those who disagree with the system and have a whinge about losing control, ie no more ALERTS calls, no more 'just going for a look' as every dispatch will be as per SOP, no more choosing who comes to back you up [unless its a specialist resource] etc...

But, it will be much better than the system we currently have. Finally CFS will have response data in the CAD.

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 07:02:09 PM »
Holy smoke Alex are you saying we will be forced into acting like a fire service?!  I wait to see how many empire builders will suddenly retire....

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 12:34:55 PM »
Quote from: Alex
Dates are not set by the services, that would be coming straight from the ministers office.

yes the minister announced 25th Oct a few weeks back. So either it will go live on the 25th and everyone will just make it work, or it will be delayed until it's actually ready. Time will tell which way it goes...

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Im sure there will always be those who disagree with the system and have a whinge about losing control, ie no more ALERTS calls, no more 'just going for a look' as every dispatch will be as per SOP, no more choosing who comes to back you up [unless its a specialist resource] etc...

But, it will be much better than the system we currently have. Finally CFS will have response data in the CAD.

no doubt it will be a much better system. I think you're being a bit idealistic (hope you're right but somehow I doubt it) but again we will see...

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 12:42:00 PM »
SAAS apparently go live on the 20th of September, and SAPOL on the 11th of November.

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 06:18:18 PM »
Quote from: Alex
Dates are not set by the services, that would be coming straight from the ministers office.

yes the minister announced 25th Oct a few weeks back. So either it will go live on the 25th and everyone will just make it work, or it will be delayed until it's actually ready. Time will tell which way it goes...

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Im sure there will always be those who disagree with the system and have a whinge about losing control, ie no more ALERTS calls, no more 'just going for a look' as every dispatch will be as per SOP, no more choosing who comes to back you up [unless its a specialist resource] etc...

But, it will be much better than the system we currently have. Finally CFS will have response data in the CAD.

no doubt it will be a much better system. I think you're being a bit idealistic (hope you're right but somehow I doubt it) but again we will see...



It will be as good as the data that is entered, some brigades and groups won't cope with it as they can't just do what they like, all the responses are based on the agencies SOP's....no argument as that is what your agency has agreed to.

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2011, 07:50:57 PM »

Quote from: Alex
Im sure there will always be those who disagree with the system and have a whinge about losing control, ie no more ALERTS calls, no more 'just going for a look' as every dispatch will be as per SOP, no more choosing who comes to back you up [unless its a specialist resource] etc...

But, it will be much better than the system we currently have. Finally CFS will have response data in the CAD.

no doubt it will be a much better system. I think you're being a bit idealistic (hope you're right but somehow I doubt it) but again we will see...


nah mate, those points are concrete and endorsed by CFS apparently. No more ALERTS to slow down responses, and no more ALERTS to give any chance to reduce responses. And as stated no more picking and choosing backup, just upgrades of alarm level.

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2011, 08:41:43 PM »
SAAS apparently go live on the 20th of September, and SAPOL on the 11th of November.

Will there still be a paging website or will that cease to exist?

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 09:29:29 PM »
They are still using the same pagers, so there will always be someone out there scanning and re-broadcasting.

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 04:47:47 PM »
Will the pager message format change at all ?
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Re: SACAD
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 06:10:12 PM »
Looks like it, here is some of the pager messages sent during training.

1929261 08:51:36 04-08-11  ,TALK2,ADL090 ADL2011 ADL202 S1 FISK, EGGY SMELL, 3RD FLOOR km) km)(Part 2 of 2)
                         
1909562 08:51:36 04-08-11  **SACAD TEST - STATION**: *CFSRES INC0022 04/ 08/ 11 08:51 RESPOND HAZ MAT, 99 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE, MAP:ADL 118 H12,(Part 1 of 2)



1909562 10:00:56 04-08-11  ADL202 ADL203 ADL204 ADL206 CMW S1 PRIME WDV243 WDV249, HCL Spill 20l km) km)(Part 2 of 2)
                                   
1909562 10:00:59 04-08-11  **SACAD TEST - STATION**: *CFSRES INC0032 04/ 08/ 11 10:00 RESPOND HAZ MAT, 234 PORT RD HINDMARSH, MAP:ADL 117 K 2, ADL090(Part 1 of 2)



1929261 11:16:33 04-08-11  ,TALK2,ADL202 GLO441, xxxxxx km) km) km)(Part 2 of 2)
                         
1929261 11:16:35 04-08-11  **SACAD TEST**: *CFSRES INC0046 04/08/11 11:16 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, 2 LORRAINE AV MITCHAM, MAP:ADL 142 P 2,(Part 1 of 2)




1909562 11:33:59 04-08-11  ADL2011 ADL2016 BPK451 CMC CPK411 OHH421, km) km) km) km) km)(Part 2 of 2)
                         
1909562 11:34:02 04-08-11  **SACAD TEST - STATION**: *CFSRES INC0051 04/ 08/ 11 11:33 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, 8 SMITH AV HOVE, MAP:ADL 152 F 2,(Part 1 of 2)


If these test messages are anything to go by, it looks like the character count per message has been reduced to around 120, which will result in most messages being split over two or three pages. Also it looks as though the second and third part of the message is now sent first, so the first part of the message will be the last received.
                           

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 07:25:20 PM »
I believe thats being/been looked at Matty.

Response message will be very similar to current, but will include nearest cross streets.

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2011, 07:06:27 AM »
SAAS apparently go live on the 20th of September, and SAPOL on the 11th of November.

SACAD is here for SAAS today, some new code and now classed by priority 1,2,3 ect

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2011, 07:26:09 AM »
KA181 PR: 1 6 MCINTOSH RD KADINA SKD 2 J 5 *Ev:06* D0001 Crtd: 03:32 Disp: 03:32 - SAAS Unit Kadina

what is the *Ev:06* part mean. i assume d0001 is the daily job number and cal recorded times and dispatch times.

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2011, 07:29:02 AM »
I may be way off, but it seems that they are going to send everything to the pagers, judging on the possible daily incident number. Event number, I presume is the type of medical emergency. I wonder whether the Adelaide Uni Accident research will be on the pagers?

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2011, 08:53:01 AM »
doesnt look like it, there was a crash at prospect which 2 saas units were called and you couldnt tell weather it was va or not as there was no crash research after it.

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2011, 09:05:53 AM »
20-09-11 08:30:33 BP71 PR: 2 : 3 CAR MVA 188 MARION RD RICHMOND 129 D 3 *Ev:HCP* D0111 Crtd: 08:29 Disp: 08:30 - SAAS Unit Brooklyn park

found this

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2011, 09:34:10 AM »
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and suggest that the *EV:XXX* is the case type. Some of the PTS/ESS stuff that has been coming up this morning has TFR in there, so each case type now has a number allocated to it. Taking a lot of learning to read the new data!!
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Re: SACAD
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2011, 10:26:55 AM »
doesnt look like it, there was a crash at prospect which 2 saas units were called and you couldnt tell weather it was va or not as there was no crash research after it.

Last Road Crash Research page was at 00:04 this morning SAAS told all crews at NetCall that SACAD is live
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Re: SACAD
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2011, 10:40:58 AM »
It looks like they have dropped the CT(City callsigns as they are now Parkside 71, 81 etc
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Re: SACAD
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2011, 11:43:24 AM »
Is every incident now put through to the pager?

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Re: SACAD
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2011, 12:18:04 PM »
Is every incident now put through to the pager?

Some but not all still via radio.
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Re: SACAD
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2011, 12:20:40 PM »
i also saw mitcham with call sign par50 aswell as the ex city ones.
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