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Offline HeavyRescue

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Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« on: August 04, 2013, 09:47:17 PM »
Hey.
I was checking out Strathalbyn SES and CFS, and I noticed that Strathalbyn SES have a 91 with rescue equipment, and Strathalbyn CFS have a 34P with rescue gear. (according to fire-brigade.asn.au)

So both Strathalbyn emergency services have road crash? If so, do they respond together? Or do they have separate response areas?


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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2013, 10:41:58 PM »
Strath Cfs isn't actually a listed rescue brigade and don't have an area at all.. Why they have rescue gear I couldn't tell you!
cant prove it?? then i didnt do it......

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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2013, 11:43:12 AM »
Strath CFS were given RCR equipment and training i believe because the SES were so low on numbers and struggling to turn out so as to prop them up and assist them in covering their area.

Personally if the one service cant provide and the other can i dont see a reason for duplication, the service that can provide should be made the RCR brigade/unit for that area.
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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2013, 04:44:54 PM »
Crossy nailed it in one.... but:

Rather than argue about who does what, don't you think it would be more productive for the services to continue to support each other in a constructive fashion?
In the end there are 2 budgets in the community, to cover a lot of specialised skills. Why not share the burden of cost and increase the skills capacity by working together..... Everybody wins (especially the community).

**This is not intended to digress into a why have 2 services discussion**

Duplication of equipment is questionable everywhere, and I believe investigating said duplication is part of the SFEC review. Hence why equipment is getting shuffled around the state.

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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2013, 07:37:26 PM »
Strath CFS has carried RCR gear for at least the past 10years and has strong numbers in RCR trained crew, so this is not a new revelation.

Strath SES sometimes has crewing difficulties during daytime hours and Strath CFS cover any shortfall, thereby ensuring a full rescue crew attends any incident within the response area (basically the Strath Group area - except Blackfellows Creek).

Unfortunately, this set-up relies on the DGO manually turning out (via AF) Strath CFS to any RCR incidents outside of their primary response area as CFS are not recognised in SACAD.

Anyway...Isn't this the same at Meningie? Meningie SES are the recognised rescue resource, but Meningie CFS carry RCR equipment on their 34P for the same reason(s)?

And Mike makes a good point - plenty of other areas where duplication of equipment exists between CFS, SES and MFS.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2013, 10:22:02 PM by CFS_fire32 »

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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 04:10:08 PM »
Lets all sing a happy song and not worry about sorting the issue....sigh

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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2013, 10:18:39 PM »
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And Mike makes a good point - plenty of other areas where duplication of equipment exists between CFS, SES and MFS.

Why on earth do you guys always have to compare with the MFS?

The MFS is a 24/7 guaranteed response.....isn't that the reason behind the CFS and SES duplication of RCR gear......there cannot be a guaranteed response from either service?



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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2013, 10:59:35 PM »
In the instance of Retained MFS, no, some are very good, then there are the others..

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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2013, 12:22:09 AM »
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And Mike makes a good point - plenty of other areas where duplication of equipment exists between CFS, SES and MFS.

Why on earth do you guys always have to compare with the MFS?

The MFS is a 24/7 guaranteed response.....isn't that the reason behind the CFS and SES duplication of RCR gear......there cannot be a guaranteed response from either service?




To clarify, I was meaning retained MFS stations.

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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2013, 01:01:39 PM »
I'm going to go ahead and make it clear that I didn't post to start arguments.
It was a legitimate question with the sole intention was to settle my curiosity.

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Re: Strathalbyn SES and Strathalbyn CFS
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2013, 11:43:29 PM »
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And Mike makes a good point - plenty of other areas where duplication of equipment exists between CFS, SES and MFS.

Why on earth do you guys always have to compare with the MFS?

The MFS is a 24/7 guaranteed response.....isn't that the reason behind the CFS and SES duplication of RCR gear......there cannot be a guaranteed response from either service?




To clarify, I was meaning retained MFS stations.

Sorry, my apologies..........  :-)

 

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