Getting on the appliances

[CFS_Firey]

I've heard of some brigades where crews wait next to the truck, and the OIC selects what crew he wants - probably a way to ensure the right expertise is on the truck.  From what everyone is saying though it sounds like most brigades let everyone jump on the truck, then shuffle around until the expertise is there?

[rescue5271]

Most of the time the OIC will select a crew before they leave the station and it should if possable be a crew that has the skills to do the job..... but if you dont have the skills we go with what you have.....

[The Assistant]

According the the Chief Officers Standing orders
 Recieveing and Responding to Incident Calls SOP 2.3

A Crew is minimum of four

And i think you will find that if you are responded by MFS that you only have 4 minutes to respond to the call or it defaults and if you are responded by SOC it is 6 minutes before it defaults.

[strikeathird]

Isn't it 4xBA when going into MFS area? / EMA ?

[CFS_Firey]

I believe its Rescue as well for EMA Strikethird..

[Toast]

We have looked at the tag system but we know whos on the appliance and who as what(caba,rcr,haz) and all our pegs have names on them of members...As for calling mfs we do it via radio to socc that way they also know we have had a call via the mfs.....

They also have a big screen that all response pages (CFS/MFS/Station Decoder) come up on. They know whats happening before you get to the station

[Heavy Rescue]

CFS Rescue trucks going into MFS areas need to have a minimum crew of rescue trained personel. Any other trucks going into MFS area have to have at least two BA crew, as per the EMA agreement.

[medevac]

AAAH but why bother following those rules when we dont follow our own SOPs.....

[Toast]

I'd suggest that most of us do. We usually follow a 4 person min, 3 RCR min, 2 BA min. Were not THAT bad as a service are we?

[medevac]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 

[rescue5271]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :?mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sure we follow SOPS...

[medevac]

Im sure some try...


 

[rescue5271]

Well may be a little....but we do try dont we??

[backburn]

Why follow all of the rules for the EMA when the MFS dont follow them.

[rescue5271]

mmmmmmmm,so how many firefighter should be on a MFS appliances?? was in the city other week and two apliances only had 3 per appliances?

[medevac]

Depends on the appliance... there are 4 per crew on pumps and the heavy rescue... 2 on HAZMAT/BA and aerial, not sure but i think that the skyjets are 4 per crew.... 2 per ROSA?

surely someonw else can confirm...

[Heavy Rescue]

Rescue5271 - MFS pumps are not allowed to respond to jobs with three people on board, if a firey is sick or unable to work then they will recall another person and take that truck offline until they have a full compliment. A couple of fireys are rostered on each shift to fill in the gaps and ensure they have a full compliment.

If there are trucks getting around with three on board I think the Union would hit the roof, maybe you saw one of the training trucks getting around at the moment with the new recruits.

Depends on the appliance... there are 4 per crew on pumps and the heavy rescue... 2 on HAZMAT/BA and aerial, not sure but i think that the skyjets are 4 per crew.... 2 per ROSA?

Medevac, the ROSA normally responds with one, if it's the CBR truck from HQ it normally goes with just the on-call CBR officer. The ROSA at Largs North is driven by the Marine Officer. Skyjets are crewed with four.

[rescue5271]

ok well that could be it...

[medevac]

cheers HR