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Scania's and Pumpers
« on: May 24, 2006, 07:51:58 AM »
Since in another thread we are divulging onto the works of MFS Scania's I thought it would be less messy to create a thread dedicated to Scania's and CFS Pumpers (hence why it isnt in MFS thread)

Is it true that the MFS Scania trucks are automatic?
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2006, 07:55:37 AM »
yep
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 08:38:21 AM »
great thread... lol

i know MFS use scania's but it always annoys me that people associate Scania with pumper... what about mawson tanker??? plus there are plenty of other heavy pumpers, besides a heavy pumper could be built around just about any chassis... but nm, im just being a nob
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2006, 09:22:00 AM »
the Mawson tanker is a great truck, the more of them the better
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2006, 12:33:43 PM »
I made this thread mainly about Scania's so thats why I title it that :-)  But to cover all bases I also added "pumpers' so people can talk about other brands.
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2006, 12:45:16 PM »
yes the M.F.S scania's are automatic..

there are several automatic C.F.S trucks as well, barker pumper, burnside pumper, stirling pumper, cleve 32, lofty tanker are the ones i know off the top of my head.

the mawson tanker is an 8 speed manuel with a splitter box...
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2006, 01:00:42 PM »
the old belair pumper was an auto also (or shud i say the current murray bridge pumper???) i rekon cleve 32 and burnside pumper were the same type of build up as the old belair one too...
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2006, 01:03:47 PM »
Is the equipment carried by MFS & CFS interchangeable ? For example, can you connect a CFS hose to a MFS pump ?

Another thread is discussing the idea of both services running the same trucks in urban areas. So the question formed is the equipment similar.

After Granville Disaster in NSW many years ago, the hydraulics were made uniform between services. Hopefully that is still the same.

Sorry if this is a basic question that you cover is training, but I am an outsider... :|
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2006, 01:04:51 PM »
hmm i have no idea about the hydraulic gear...

but hoses are mostly the same thread, and if not thats why we carry adaptors.
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2006, 02:00:10 PM »
all mfs/cfs Fire fighting hoses are interchangeable and yes you can connect from cfs truck to mfs truck.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2006, 05:20:00 PM by Firey9119 »
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2006, 02:54:12 PM »
Quote from: Firey9119 on May 24, 2006, 02:00:10 PM
all mfs/cfs hoses are interchangeable

Assuming everyone is using the same type of hydraulic oil is the same.....
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2006, 03:02:24 PM »
Quote from: bajdas on May 24, 2006, 01:03:47 PM
Is the equipment carried by MFS & CFS interchangeable ? For example, can you connect a CFS hose to a MFS pump ?


yeah bajdas, thats why our screw in hoses have standard SAMFS couplings. On this note, I heard someone the other day at brukunga talking about wajax hoses with different size couplings. anyone heard this?
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2006, 04:07:09 PM »
Yeah, I've heard whispering about Wajax for the larger hoses... Last I heard SAMFS still didn't have any wajax either. (But neither do some CFS groups)
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2006, 05:01:42 PM »
Interstate they use hermaphrodite couplings, which can cause slight issues for us when we head over that way. Who know if we will move that way or not. I would imagine it would cost a fair amount to refit everything. In terms of hydraulic hoses, I wouls suggest they are not interchangable as the CFS do not use the same brand rescue equipment across the board, I'm not sure about the MFS though.

As different brands use different oil, and fuction either by oil pressure or oil volume, you would no doubt run into issues.

Oh and Lofty Tanker... yeah, why on earth is that thing auto.
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2006, 05:37:16 PM »
Do CFS and MFS ever share hoses and couplings?

Is an automatic truck the same as a car where you just brake and acclerate within reason, plus a few other gears like 1, 2, 3 and drive.
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2006, 05:47:39 PM »
yes, an auto is a bit like a car...

to answer the CFS?MFS question, an example of this would be belair's old pumper boosting 205 at mitcham shopping centre...

i dunno bout the hydraulics... i guess if a tool busted perhaps...
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2006, 06:21:19 PM »
MFS use Holmatro rescue equipment across the board, so if the are at a job with CFS/SES who also have Holmatro then the tools/couplings are interchangeable. However many CFS brigades run Lukas rescue gear as the CFS bought about 20 sets and got a deal in 2000 when they outfitted many of the new 24P`s with them. So of course the lukas stuff doesnt work with the Holmatro.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2006, 06:24:35 PM »
mmm Hurst...
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2006, 10:26:40 AM »
Quote from: ath on May 24, 2006, 06:21:19 PM
MFS use Holmatro rescue equipment across the board, so if the are at a job with CFS/SES who also have Holmatro then the tools/couplings are interchangeable. However many CFS brigades run Lukas rescue gear as the CFS bought about 20 sets and got a deal in 2000 when they outfitted many of the new 24P`s with them. So of course the lukas stuff doesnt work with the Holmatro.

why are we talking about rescue gear? we were on pumps and hoses.
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2006, 10:57:57 AM »
cause thats the way these treads go after a while: way off track  :-)^^
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2006, 11:46:06 AM »
Quote from: probie_boy on May 25, 2006, 10:26:40 AM
why are we talking about rescue gear? we were on pumps and hoses.

Cant help what I am interested in....and all services carry some sort of hydraulic equipment (rams, hand-pumps, hoses, etc).

Back to the Scania vs others
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2006, 12:56:16 PM »
Is the Scania chassis really any better than other chassis (For pumpers) or is it just that the MFS make good trucks with Scanias?
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2006, 01:00:41 PM »
If you mean compared to the cab chassis yours is on then YES! they are far better.
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2006, 01:07:34 PM »
hehehe, ok
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Re: Scania's and Pumpers
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2006, 03:38:15 PM »
Quote from: TillerMan on May 25, 2006, 01:00:41 PM
If you mean compared to the cab chassis yours is on then YES! they are far better.

don't rib that truck! :-D
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