Author Topic: 2nd alarm house fire at Woodcroft (Read 16727 times)

bajdas · « **on:** June 15, 2006, 02:45:49 PM »

13:47:58 15-06-06 SHQ: CFSRES: SEAFORD RESPOND CHANGE OF QTRS TO MORPHETT VALE STATION - FROM MAWSON DO. <

13:44:00 15-06-06 KANG: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND KANGARILLA STATION

13:35:19 15-06-06 MRPH: *CFSRES: DRIVER REQUIRED RESPOND MORPHETT VALE STATION

13:34:07 15-06-06 MRPH: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND M/ VALE STATION

13:32:19 15-06-06 SHQ: BRENTO PLS CONTACT SOC ASAP... >

13:31:24 15-06-06 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE GOING WELL CREWS REQUIRED TO MAN STATION - H/V STATION

13:28:09 15-06-06 M/VALE RESPONSE: *CFSRES: RESPOND MORPHETT VALE 24 TO 50 PINE ROAD WOODCROFT, REQUESTED FOR WATER BY GROUP DUTY OFFICER - ALL AVAILABLE CREW PLEASE RESPOND TO STATION NOW - LT 1 Matthew Bonser

13:26:24 15-06-06 SHQ: URGMSG KANGARILLA 34 RESPOND DOMESTIC, 50 PINE RD, WOODCROFT. ASSIST HAPPY VALLEY WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE... >

13:25:50 15-06-06 M/V INFO: FOR INFO M24P IS RESPONDING TO A 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE AT WOODCROFT, WILL BE TIED UP FOR SOME TIME. MORPHETT 24 MAY BE NEEDED FOR WATER - ANYONE ELSE AVAILABLE PLEASE RESPOND TO THE STATION NOW OR ANY OTHER CALLS. LT 1 Matthew Bon

13:24:33 15-06-06 SHQ: GARY PLS CONTACT SOC ASAP... >

13:22:18 15-06-06 SHQ: URGMSG MAWSON TANKER RESPOND DOMESTIC, 50 PINE RD, WOODCROFT. ASSIST HAPPY VALLEY WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE... >

13:19:11 15-06-06 SHQ: URGMSG CLARENDON RESPOND DOMESTIC, 50 PINE RD, WOODCROFT. ASSIST HAPPY VALLEY WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE... >

13:08:37 15-06-06 HPPY: *CFSRES: EXTRA CREW REQUIRED RESPOND HAPPY VALLEY STN

13:07:39 15-06-06 MFS: RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE 15/06/06 13:06,50 PINE RD,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 N 6 ,,2ND DEFAULT,8124*CFSRES:

13:01:28 15-06-06 MFS: RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE 15/06/06 13:00,50 PINE RD,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 N 6 ,,FIRE IN THE HOUSE,8032*CFSRES:

fire03rescue · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2006, 02:46:51 PM »

and now

SHQ: FYI: H.VALLEY, MORPH.VALE, CLARENDON, KANGARILLA & MFS IN ATTENDING GOING 3 STORY HOUSE FIRE, RO AUSTIN & MLO RAGLESS GOING FORWARD. SAFTEY MSG'S ISSUES DUE TO UNSOUND BUILDING.FIRE CAUSE ATTENDING- RDO DOWLING

probie_boy · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2006, 03:39:11 PM »

nice one. Sounds like a mansion going up. Good to see our alarms sytem works though

bajdas · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2006, 04:34:34 PM »

Salvage work now....

15:24:05 15-06-06 MFS: RESPOND To 15/06/06 15:22,5 PINE RD,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 N 6 ,,CFS REQUIRE YOU FOR ROOF STRIPPING AND OTHER WORK AFTER HOUSE FIRE,8032*CFSRES:

15:25:33 15-06-06 MFS: RESPOND To 15/06/06 15:24,5 PINE RD,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 N 6 ,,,72820*CFSRES:

medevac · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2006, 09:55:43 PM »

Quote from: probie_boy on June 15, 2006, 03:39:11 PM

nice one. Sounds like a mansion going up. Good to see our alarms sytem works though

alarms system?

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15:24:05 15-06-06 MFS: RESPOND To 15/06/06 15:22,5 PINE RD,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 N 6 ,,CFS REQUIRE YOU FOR ROOF STRIPPING AND OTHER WORK AFTER HOUSE FIRE,8032*CFSRES:

lol... good to see they sent the right ppl... happy valley CFS. quickly rectified with Noarlunga (or sturt??) being sent later...

calspec · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2006, 11:58:50 PM »

Go figure. Mets in their infinite wisdom responded one solitary CFS station to a going domestic?? and in the metro area as well. What the...

It was only when HVCFS called Mets back to default (insufficient crews, initially) that Mets reponded other brigades....or maybe they just saw the smoke and decided to send 431. HVCFS did get going only a few minutes later to be first CFS crew on scene - just behind MFS, others weren't far behind. All in all a good turn out and a job well done by all who attended.

As for the SES page going to HVCFS, who knows what happened there?

medevac · « **Reply #6 on:** June 16, 2006, 12:30:29 AM »

all comes back to the database,,,

rusty · « **Reply #7 on:** June 16, 2006, 04:05:53 AM »

Quote from: calspec on June 15, 2006, 11:58:50 PM

Go figure. Mets in their infinite wisdom responded one solitary CFS station to a going domestic?? and in the metro area as well. What the...

That particular street has been entered in the MFS database as a single brigade response, specifically so, (normally the MFS computer would recommend 2 callsigns but in this case it only recommends 1). Therefore the response is correct according to the local brigade response plans. Don't bag people/groups when you don't have the facts...

Quote from: calspec on June 15, 2006, 11:58:50 PM

It was only when HVCFS called Mets back to default (insufficient crews, initially) that Mets reponded other brigades....

That's how the system is supposed to work.

Quote from: calspec on June 15, 2006, 11:58:50 PM

or maybe they just saw the smoke and decided to send 431.

After years of CFS doing the smoke-chasing...

calspec · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2006, 06:19:21 AM »

Slow down there slugger. No one is bagging anybody. OK so maybe the "database" is in dire need of an upgrade - we'll just leave that in the hands of Safecom then. Facts? the fact is only one brigade was responded, as stated. In my limited experience I do not understand how any domestic dwelling in the metro area could be listed as only requiring a single unit response. I'm sure the owners of affected outer metro properties would be interested to know that. Also considering that there is no water supply within about 500m of that particular house, how the heck is one appliance (or even two for that matter) going to be any use at all without water?

rusty · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2006, 06:51:51 AM »

Like I said...the single unit response was according to local brigade response plans. If the database is to be updated the request must come from the local brigade and group.
If a job requires extra or special resources, such as a BWC, then that request comes from the IC or via a greater alarm system.
The bagging was implicit and blatant in your sarcastic remark about "mets in their infinite wisdom..."

medevac · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2006, 07:29:51 AM »

good call rusty...

as i said, all comes back to the database.

strikeathird · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2006, 04:41:38 PM »

Fair call rusty.

mattb · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2006, 10:54:23 AM »

Rusty is correct, the database only had one brigade listed for a 'Structure - Domestic'.

This was incorrect for that zone and has now been rectified. There is no reason why that response for that zone had been changed as it was contrary to the brigade response plans and CFS COSO's.

The only possible explanation is that the recent importing of the SES data into the BOMS database caused a couple of 'glitches' to occur. Apparantly this is not the first time this type of 'out of the ordinary' response has happened (I seem to recall a couple of times Stirling have been responded to MVA's on the other side of Mt Barker).

Anyway it's fixed now and so we can all move on.

Toast · « **Reply #13 on:** June 17, 2006, 03:13:46 PM »

I must say that to have to wait 30 mins for a second BA crew at a going domestic may suggest a boost to daytime BA trained members in that area...

medevac · « **Reply #14 on:** June 17, 2006, 09:04:22 PM »

personally ive noticed quite a few "glitches" in response data lately... mainly rescues...

strikeathird · « **Reply #15 on:** June 18, 2006, 12:16:21 AM »

Quote from: Toast on June 17, 2006, 03:13:46 PM

I must say that to have to wait 30 mins for a second BA crew at a going domestic may suggest a boost to daytime BA trained members in that area...

Where'd you pull that figure from ?

Toast · « **Reply #16 on:** June 18, 2006, 11:29:43 PM »

Listening to the incident unfold. Happy valley initailly defaulted, Morphett Vale had no BA, Christies Downs 431 was the only appliance with BA operators on board to arrive. Around 25-30 mins after arrival, the interior attack crew suggested to the OIC that he have a relief BA crew come in as they were low on the good ol' O2, they were met with the response that they were still enroute to the incident. I believe they ended up coming from Clarendon, Happy Valley 14 and Kangarilla

medevac · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:15:44 AM »

still better than most country areas

we all have our bad days

calspec · « **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:36:10 AM »

This is my point of view only. I don't have exact times but can cross check with the report later. HVCFS arrived with 2x BA some time after MFS, but certainly not that far behind. They joined mets for internal attack. Some time later, crews started calling for backup BA. This could be your 25-30min that you heard. HVCFS sent a further two BA crew to incident in HV14 with back up cylinders to boost HV24P's 4 centurion sets and 4 spare cylinders. Total 6 BA crew on scene. Morphett Vale and Clarendon were utilised for pump and water carting respectively. Kangarilla were stopped prior to arrival.

probie_boy · « **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:22:06 PM »

hey does anyone have pics of this bad boy, i missed it on the news

PF_ · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:20:21 PM »

Didnt miss much

strikeathird · « **Reply #21 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:59:51 PM »

At the end of the day, we are vollies, job well done.

Lets let the criticising rest, and focus on your own "big one" that you will get one day, and hope that everything under the sun unfolds right for you!

medevac · « **Reply #22 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:45:15 PM »

Quote from: P F on June 19, 2006, 06:20:21 PM

Didnt miss much

mmm three story house going well from what i understand... cant have missed a thing.

PF_ · « **Reply #23 on:** June 19, 2006, 09:05:53 PM »

well, the news didnt show a lot of that so no really didnt miss a thing.

Laska · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:10:12 PM »

Morphett also sent up 2 BA operators in their 14. Kangarilla was responded but didn't have crew to go.

Author Topic: 2nd alarm house fire at Woodcroft (Read 16727 times)

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