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Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« on: June 28, 2006, 02:14:47 PM »
13:09:26 28-06-06 Ncte GCC: Please be advised Naracoorte attending two calls, one at Padthaway and one at Joanna, please respond if able for any other calls 28/06/06

13:01:15 28-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: JOANNA, NARACOORTE & PENOLA RESPOND RESCUE CONCRETE BRIDGE ROAD OPP SMARTS DAIRY PERSON WITH ARM IN WOODSPLITTER < 28/06/2006 13:01:01

12:17:39 28-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: PADTHAWAY & NARACOORTE RESPOND RCR RIDDOCH HIGHWAY PADTHAWAY TURNOFFF 2 VEHICLES CONFIRMED ENTRAPMENTS < 28/06/2006 12:17:26
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2006, 02:17:48 PM »
I have driven past Naracoorte CFS & understand they have a large active membership, as well as multiple vehicles.

To satisfy my curiosity, with two Rescue incidents active on one brigade, does this qualify for another CFS brigade to do a COQ to Naracoorte CFS ?
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2006, 02:38:41 PM »
well, if theres a brigade to do that kind of work, its the boys at naracoorte. Interestingly, wouldn't their rescue appliance be required for both jobs?
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2006, 02:58:22 PM »
how many sets of rescue gear do they have ?

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2006, 04:25:34 PM »
We have one set of rescue gear have asked for another set but been knocked back,I was on the rescue at the first job when the second call came in and so penola was paged as they are rescue. We like other brigade's have a decline in members that can get away,I was working in town today but that is becoming rare these days. We would love a second set of rescue gear so as to put on our pumper and we have made attemps to buy a second set but CFS H/Q will not allow us...This is not the first time that we have had two jobs at once all in all a good job and crews worked well with what they had....

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2006, 05:56:09 PM »
I found these 3 SAAS pager messages off the paging site and it seems that Nangwarry 81 was called because Penola 81 didnt have a crew rostered on

1908543 13:13:41 28-06-06 NG81 Cat 2 - Failed Secondary
1908543 13:10:05 28-06-06 NG81 Cat3 Concrete Bridge Rd, Joanna
1908542 13:01:22 28-06-06 PN81 No crew rostered Urgent case in area contact comms ONLY if able to attend

Talk about a real busy day i would have thought they would call SES from Mount Gambier for COQ to cover Naracoorte while Naracoorte rescue was out
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2006, 07:04:05 PM »
But who would then cover Gambier?  (I know there is MFS, but according to the RCR Directory SES are the responding authority)

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2006, 08:57:10 PM »
Wattle Range SES of course as they have a RCR rescue truck and trained crew.... plus Millicent CFS would cover them as we all know Millicent is a RCR brigade as well
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 09:20:23 PM »
Okay, so why wouldnt Millicent CFS rescue move in and cover naracoorte... Being CFS??

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2006, 10:46:19 PM »
hmm, this is going in circles a little isn't it?
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2006, 06:49:12 AM »
Ok,look Naracoorte rescue was at first job for about one hour,penola is the next rescue brigade for our group south of us.Padthaway is rescue so when we got out there we used there gear as they only had a crew of two...COQ does not work down here like it does in the city why??? Well its a long drive between places,It would take SES from the mount or Millicent or bordertown one hour yo get here then you have the problem of who will cover their area??So its not that easy like in the city..... It should be noted that When our members who where back at base where paged they responded in car two to provide first aid till an ambulance crew arrived which was manned by of duty SAAS member who is also a brigade member.As it was the man's arm was free when crews arrived on scene......Yes a busy day but a job well done by excellent team work and by those at base making sure correct guildlines for this type Of situation where followed....So as you can see what works for us Will not work for you as you have more RCR(so called) brigades near you than we do......

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2006, 07:33:42 AM »
Only reason I asked is cause robert brought it up.. Thought it must have been common practice.. I personally think the COQ was a pox idea.

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2006, 09:31:29 AM »
COQ of rescue would just not work... thinkabout it , you cant go moving resources that already cover several hundred/poss. thousand square kilometres,,, just not going to work at all.

brigades everywhere get multiple incidents at the same time, you deal with it by calling the next closest resource to cover your donkey, which it looks like naracoorte have done perfectly, so top points for them for not letting ego/pride get in the way.

sometimes these things happen and a response time is slightly slower because a resource has to come from somewhere else.... shite happens.

re; a second set of gear. an RCR brigade only needs one set of heavy per the green book, so i doubt you;d ever get a second set supplied... perhaps if the brigade/group feels strongly, then buy a set of RIT yourselves...

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2006, 09:41:41 AM »
Thanks for the information regards country COQ. Now a city kid understands a bit better. :wink:
Genuine thanks...
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2006, 09:49:38 AM »
Thanks for the information regards country COQ. Now a city kid understands a bit better. :wink:
Genuine thanks...

dont get me wrong badjas, COQ does happen, i have seen a brigade move an appliance into Naracoorte station due to there entire groups commitment at an incident, but this just wouldnt work for RCR coverage... plus its not a common occurence to get COQ for  RCRs... usually the RCR unit will clear the scene as soon as possible to remain available for further calls.

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2006, 12:03:38 PM »
Yeah, no real need for a COQ for a single 'normal' incident. Is there anyway at Naracoorte you guys could argue for an omni tool? We have our rescue truck with our heavy gear, but then another pump/omnitool and the basics on our pumper. Works well if the brown stuff hits the spinning thing.

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2006, 02:40:54 PM »
When all the new Lukas came out a few years ago some brigades got to keep their old equipment as a second set....
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2006, 03:48:04 PM »
we would have liked to have kept our old gear but it went with the old rescue, we have asked for a comtool but once again no I feel the only way to get one is to have a set donated to the brigade.CFS have said no you can't buy a set.Mind you there are a few old sets of gear and pumps sitting in a shed in the HILLS...

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2006, 01:57:36 AM »
1919403 20:14:07 29-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: MURRAY BRIDGE RESPOND MVA BRINKLY ROAD FROM MURRAY BRIDGE TOWARDS LANGHORN CREEK PAST TIP BUT BEFORE BOGGY LAKE INTERSECTION - CAR VS TREE NO ENTRAPMENTS BELIEVED < 29/06/2006 8:13:56 PM

1905655 22:28:58 29-06-06 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIRE ALARM, MOBILONG PRISON, MAURICE ROAD, MURRAY BRIDGE

1919403 00:55:00 30-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: MURRAY BRIDGE RESPOND TYRE POWER ADELAIDE ROAD < 30/06/2006 12:54:47 AM  (believethis was a rubbish fire assist MFS)

pretty busy maybe they need an extra pump  :wink:

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2006, 06:00:41 AM »
Why do they need a extra pump??? dont they have a pumper and a 24? does not the mfs have two pumpers???

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2006, 09:47:01 AM »
1919403 20:14:07 29-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: MURRAY BRIDGE RESPOND MVA BRINKLY ROAD FROM MURRAY BRIDGE TOWARDS LANGHORN CREEK PAST TIP BUT BEFORE BOGGY LAKE INTERSECTION - CAR VS TREE NO ENTRAPMENTS BELIEVED < 29/06/2006 8:13:56 PM

1905655 22:28:58 29-06-06 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIRE ALARM, MOBILONG PRISON, MAURICE ROAD, MURRAY BRIDGE

1919403 00:55:00 30-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: MURRAY BRIDGE RESPOND TYRE POWER ADELAIDE ROAD < 30/06/2006 12:54:47 AMĀ  (believethis was a rubbish fire assist MFS)

No rubbish fire...........................

johnsxxm:Muray Bridge MFS are involved in a tyre fire at Beau Repairs Adeaide Rd Murray Bridge. They have used 130 litres of foam and need replenishing. CFS are assisting

pretty busy maybe they need an extra pumpĀ  :wink:

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2006, 11:13:04 AM »
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Why do they need a extra pump??? dont they have a pumper and a 24? does not the mfs have two pumpers???

Yes but the MFS in Murray Bridge consistantly have trouble getting one crew out the door let alone two. Give the CFS one of their pumps and make them primary response for the town I say.
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2006, 12:50:30 PM »
I think Medevac was being sarcastic ;)

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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2006, 01:20:00 PM »
i have heard about this before,an alledged low morale issue in murray bridge. any truth behind this?
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Re: Naracoorte CFS busy = two incidents
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2006, 03:47:30 PM »
I was talking to one of the MFS guys from there and they have a full crew but hard to get out the door due to work and life.....May be a satelite cfs station with a pumper nice type two would look good.....