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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2006, 09:24:33 AM »
i guess that depends on whether its 'out of control'...

but out act only gives us power to act against the residents wishes, without police involvement, inside the fire season...

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2006, 09:27:14 AM »
What about if you get called out by the Council Fire prevention Officer or the EPA

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2006, 09:51:12 AM »
well then you have there authorisation... and they do have the power to enforce the fires extinguishment.... but id wanna make sure i either had them on scene or had it in writing

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2006, 10:09:10 AM »
We normaly have them on scene as we get quite a few calls from them. As well as the police as they call them out as well.

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2006, 10:11:34 AM »
well then you shud be alright  :wink:

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2006, 02:48:12 PM »
The rule about towing with CFS appliances came about because some had ripped off their bullbars etc and damaged private vehicles while doing so,as snatch straps etc were not secured in the correct location.This applies to private vehicles as CFS will not indemnify anyone who does it and causes damage to a private vehicle hence its not allowed.I have towed many a CFS vehicle out of a bog,creek crossing while on the fireground,and appliances with flat batteries due to drivers not winding the revs up at an incident when running all the revolving  lights,spotlights,pump etc.     

Something we should all be concerned about is NO JUMPER LEADS on appliances as standard stowage :-o

 
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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2006, 06:25:42 PM »
What if your truck gets a flat battery? ...and its an automatic?

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2006, 06:45:15 PM »
This has happened when i was at Salisbury and we called the RAA would you believe.

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2006, 07:02:43 PM »

Something we should all be concerned about is NO JUMPER LEADS on appliances as standard stowage :-o

So... carry them as non standard stowage?

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2006, 06:41:16 PM »
All of our appliances carry them.
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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2006, 07:57:39 PM »
Was talking to a SES guy the other day and he was saying if the stopped doing tow jobs from the beach they would have to close as they would only do 25 jobs a year as the where not RCR......

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2006, 08:52:24 AM »
we carry jumper leads on both trucks anyway... and although theyve never been used on the trucks, we have had to jump start group vehicles for the GOs a few times.....  :roll:

LOL - weve also had issues with our battery isolaters a few times in the past... i can remember rocking up to the station a few times, and once we got a few bods, having to push start the appliance through the car park... LMAO

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2006, 09:21:29 AM »
Yeah, we've had to jump our truck out of the station a couple of times because someone has left the isolating switch on...unfortunately, there is an incline once you get out of the shed..hard to push  :x


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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2006, 01:16:21 PM »
Don't you leave your trucks plugged in to trickle chargers?  Or don't they work if the truck isn't isolated?

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2006, 01:20:37 PM »
they are plugged in, but i believe the radios and radio chargers (which turn on when the battery is unisolated, draw more power than the trickle charge trickles...

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2006, 01:25:36 PM »
ahh, ok...  That would have made for some quite amusing photos :D

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2006, 02:17:47 PM »
Its all downhill from the doors for us... It helps!

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2006, 10:05:02 PM »
1928011 19:13:33 13-08-06 MFS: RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL 13/08/06 19:11,GOOLWA CFS,GOOLWA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,FROM SAPOL ASSIST 4WD BOGGED MURRAY MOUTH. ENTERED FROM GOOLWA BEACH. P3.,73229*CFSRES:

An all too common happening down here :roll:
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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2006, 10:37:10 PM »
1928011 19:13:33 13-08-06 MFS: RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL 13/08/06 19:11,GOOLWA CFS,GOOLWA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,FROM SAPOL ASSIST 4WD BOGGED MURRAY MOUTH. ENTERED FROM GOOLWA BEACH. P3.,73229*CFSRES:

An all too common happening down here :roll:

what confuses me here is why does the page say goolwa CFS, goolwa when the station number at the end is an SES station no.?
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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2006, 10:44:20 PM »
Possibly that is where the caller is going to meet them....I agree re CFS/SES on the page confusing  :|
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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2006, 11:03:43 PM »
Ha good luck to the SES last couple of times this has happened they didn't want to know about the job. And it is a little soft down there at the moment to even consider trying to pull them out. Honestly i don't think this should be even contemplated as a job is it really worth the risk of getting an emergency vehicle bogged trying to get out some inexperinced f**kwit who shouldn't be driving where they are.

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2006, 11:07:44 PM »
agreed. loving the imperfect filter firefrog! booyah! :-D
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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2006, 11:24:43 PM »
Cheers Firey kinda forgot to check that :oops:  :lol:
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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2006, 11:25:31 PM »
Ha good luck to the SES last couple of times this has happened they didn't want to know about the job. And it is a little soft down there at the moment to even consider trying to pull them out. Honestly i don't think this should be even contemplated as a job is it really worth the risk of getting an emergency vehicle bogged trying to get out some inexperinced f**kwit who shouldn't be driving where they are.

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What emergency vehicle?



You don't mean the orange tow truck do you?

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Re: Where do we draw the line
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2006, 11:32:57 PM »
 :lol: :lol:. Plus it helps get your call rate up when the local copper is an active member in their unit. The amount of jobs they get called to in Goolwa that they aren't needed for is ridiculous.
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