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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2006, 11:27:04 PM »
yea well i got a some black triangles with red stripes in them

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2006, 01:20:31 PM »
they are obviously a bit like our Corporate logo...and on the way out...the organisation is possibly not dedicating enough energy into acknowledgement of the efforts of their vollies...I've been a vollie for 19yrs and only have a 15yr service certificate...not that I really care but we shouldn't have to jump up and down and wave our arms for acknowledgement of our time dedicated :mrgreen:

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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2006, 02:34:44 PM »
^ Have you got your national service?

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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2006, 02:40:49 PM »
negative to national service... :cry:

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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2006, 04:13:56 PM »
negative to national service... :cry:

I think he means national medal, isn't that the one you get after 15yrs?

I don't think you automatically get any service awards, I think your brigade admin officer has to fill in the paperwork to request them.  Seems odd cos HQ know anyway, perhaps it's to avoid giving them to non-active members who are still on the books.

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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2006, 05:44:38 PM »
To be awared the National medal - recipents must have given dilligent service for 15 years - some brigades see it as an honour (which it is) not a medal for every tom, filtered and harry - thats what the volunteers medal was for!
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2006, 09:06:14 AM »
I still haven't got one...and I am aware of the process..I just disagree with having to say...mmm..excuse me...but I've done 15 years of diligent service...could I have a medal??  I think that it should be driven by RO personally.. :-(

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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2006, 09:30:07 AM »
You arent the only one CaptCom i was supposed to get a chevron when i got my 10 years service certificate earlier this year  :cry:
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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2006, 12:40:20 PM »
Captcom - I know ur a DGO now, however if you speak to the admin officer of your last brigade, and mention to them about getting the paper put in.


- Ozfire - any one who serves for 15 years or more has put in a diligent effort in my opinion !

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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2006, 02:00:32 PM »
All Hail CaptCom the mighty DGO  8-) :-D

I'll have to wait another 5 years before getting the national medal  :-)
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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2006, 02:13:39 PM »
Yes, I will mention to the admin officer...there's more than just me in the brigade that are eligible...no need to bow Robert34  :lol:

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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2006, 02:19:47 PM »
The thing is, if they were truely serious about recognising the volunteers then this would happen automatically.... not by request.

If I have to ask for something to honour members service, then i dont think they are truely honouring it are they! The thought probably hadent even crossed their minds!

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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2006, 09:21:43 AM »
The thing is, if they were truely serious about recognising the volunteers then this would happen automatically.... not by request.

If I have to ask for something to honour members service, then i dont think they are truely honouring it are they! The thought probably hadent even crossed their minds!

couldnt have put it better myself!  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2006, 09:37:55 AM »
Thats called cocky "filtered" :-D
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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2006, 09:36:05 AM »
I've seen a service award review book put out

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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2006, 10:34:28 AM »

National Medal.........I have one.....23 years.....My Father was in 27 years...Brigade Capt .then Deputy GO.......Group Training Officer.......but he didnt qualify for one back then...1994

I put My Chevrons in a frame with My 15 years certificate

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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2006, 08:32:24 PM »
I can see it now a Polo Shirt framed with pictures of the brigade members and the shirt signed by all of them :-D

CaptCom members are nominated for the National Medal usually done at a brigade meeting and a unanimous vote then the paperwork goes in.

I agree if you have been a member for fifteen years it should be automatic :wink: 
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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2006, 09:21:00 AM »
Sorry still disagree with the automatic after 15 years!

What world are you people living in?????

CFS once stated 18500 fire fighters - with a guess of about 10000 active - that equates to 21 active members per brigade - what a load of steaming cow poo!!!!

Many, many brigades have people on their books, as active who they would be lucky to see once a year - why do these people deserve a national medal - they don't, they haven't displayed diligent service, they haven't provided back to the community when the comunity has put in ($$$ for training, equipment, PPE)

I stand (maybe alone) by my convictions - the National medal should be earned, not a medal for every bugga like the volunteer medal was!

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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2006, 09:56:54 AM »
I agree with you OZ Fire
we had a ff in the brigade that put in 100% for 13 years and had to leave because of work commitments and the other ff had completed 15 years but went missing for a lot of the time and did bugger all.
so why should the second ff get the National medal

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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2006, 10:32:39 AM »
The National Medal is not a service medal - eg you don't get it just because you have been a member for 15 years.  It is a diligent service medal - to be eligible, you need to do a bit more than just turn up occasionally.

The process for nominating a person is not an onerous task - relevant paperwork available from your Regional Office.   :-)

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« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2006, 10:47:12 AM »
It's all in hand..process under way..

I agree with the diligent part...we have had plenty on our books that have done nothing...they would never qualify..

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Re: Chevrons question
« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2006, 12:33:26 PM »
Sorry still disagree with the automatic after 15 years!

What world are you people living in?????

CFS once stated 18500 fire fighters - with a guess of about 10000 active - that equates to 21 active members per brigade - what a load of steaming cow poo!!!!

Many, many brigades have people on their books, as active who they would be lucky to see once a year - why do these people deserve a national medal - they don't, they haven't displayed diligent service, they haven't provided back to the community when the comunity has put in ($$$ for training, equipment, PPE)

I stand (maybe alone) by my convictions - the National medal should be earned, not a medal for every bugga like the volunteer medal was!


Agreed. But if the person qualifies (time, diligence, etc) then the administration officer should automatically notify the hierarchy (brigade/unit, region or SHQ) and begin the process if approved.

I have just been through the process which was painful. My membership started 1979. I have moved between Units during my time and taken a few years off when I lived interstate. Because of the time span I had to go back to individual Units records which were not stored very well. Thus it took from July to September before verification of volunteer membership could be completed.

I understand that membership records are now kept at SHQ which eases the process, so in future it will be easier.
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