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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2006, 08:31:32 AM »
around the mt gambier district the local brigades that dual respond with MFS will be paged by MFS comms at the same time a MFS....

no other responses for LSE are meant to be paged to CFS brigades by MFS in that area

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2006, 05:29:42 PM »
MFS will page who they feel like and not contact SOCC as they are ment too,happens all the time....
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2006, 07:26:34 PM »
Why would you want them to contact SOCC and waste more time?  Wouldn't it be better if the call taker pages you, and if SAMFS are responding the wrong brigades, you get their database updated to be correct?

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2006, 07:46:37 PM »
mmm would be all good if they had the correct data and response plans...


or even a general idea of the area  :lol:

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2006, 06:39:07 PM »
would be nice but as has been done they page the wrong brigade as there information is out of date...
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2006, 07:26:48 PM »
Recently we have had a lot of pages that have gone to the group officers but not the brigade.  Even though the pager message contains the brigade number. e.g. 5418.

All from MFS of course.

Dont know why this is though.  Comm centre error or GRN error?  Anyone else had this happen?
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2006, 07:59:25 PM »
Hey Ath, who said EMA didnt work both ways pml lol  :lol:

MFS: RESPOND RCR 11/12/06 21:22,JUBILEE HWY EAST,MT GAMBIER DISTR, MAP 126 F 2 ,,FROM SAPOL, SINGLE CAR COLLISION, OPP LADY NELSON INFO CENTRE, UNKNOWN ENTRAPMENTS,DAILY INC. NO. 73,74629 701 5528*CFSRES:
                                                 -= CFS Yahl response =-

MFS: RESPOND RCR 11/12/06 21:22,JUBILEE HWY EAST,MT GAMBIER DISTR, MAP 126 F 2 ,,FROM SAPOL, SINGLE CAR COLLISION, OPP LADY NELSON INFO CENTRE, UNKNOWN ENTRAPMENTS,DAILY INC. NO. 73,74629 701 5528*CFSRES:
                                                 -= MFS MT GAMBIER RESPONSE =-

Me thinks someone stuffed up!
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2006, 09:23:51 PM »
mmm might be becasue they put it in as Mt Gambier district,,, not just Mt Gambier....


probly an easy mistake for anyone who doesnt know the area... lol.

ahh well, ncie lights and sirens run for the boys

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2006, 03:52:25 AM »
nah stop called in a matter of minutes.
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #59 on: December 12, 2006, 02:34:31 PM »
I will eat my words if I ever see this:

MFS: RESPOND ASSIST CFS 12/12/06 1900,at structure fire blah blah Road YAHL , MAP 0 0 0 at request of CFS GO. DAILY INC. NO. 69,701*CFSRES:

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #60 on: December 12, 2006, 03:25:41 PM »
nah probaly never happen.  you might see this one day.  If i get a say one day

MFS: RESPOND ASSIST CFS 12/12/06 1900,at structure fire blah blah Road Compton , MAP 0 0 0 at request of Compton CFS. DAILY INC. NO. 69,701*CFSRES:
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #61 on: December 12, 2006, 06:59:38 PM »
tell bob to stop calling you guys and you will not get pissed off
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #62 on: December 12, 2006, 07:33:46 PM »
tell bob to stop calling you guys and you will not get filtered off

say what?
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #63 on: December 12, 2006, 08:32:00 PM »
I will eat my words if I ever see this:

MFS: RESPOND ASSIST CFS 12/12/06 1900,at structure fire blah blah Road YAHL , MAP 0 0 0 at request of CFS GO. DAILY INC. NO. 69,701*CFSRES:

ya might not get the mount turning out to CFS area... but i know for a fact that an MFS skyjet (or was it the bronto... hmmm) attended the Blackwood Coldstore fire at CFS request, well after initial calls... there have also been various other times in history when MFS have supplied 'specialist' appliances to CFS.

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2006, 10:46:07 PM »
Have heard from a few different peeps around the traps lately that MFS be fulltime or retained can now travel up to 40km out of district for calls without getting special permission or something to that effect??? would have thought if you called them they would show anyhow but meh???????
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #65 on: December 13, 2006, 04:28:09 AM »
We did a combined MFS/CFS training with Victor MFS. Yes, we asked the question and they said then that their responce area had been extended up to 40 km's

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2006, 02:21:41 PM »
Is that thre primary response zone is 40kms? or thats how far they go to assist CFS without permission from upstairs?

Cos if its there primary response zone then why is there a cfs?
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2006, 02:47:15 PM »
That would be to back up their fellow FF without going to the big guns up in the sky :-D
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2006, 03:03:39 PM »
Can respond 30-40km around that mark beyond the boundary. Discretion is used though. For example if that MFS station is going to then have trouble covering their own area by doing that it may not happen. For example it would be silly to send Mt Gambier to a grass fire near Millicent and then respond a CFS appliance for COQ.

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #69 on: December 13, 2006, 04:54:43 PM »
Not to mention at least 5 more appropriate appliances closer to that area.

So does that mean a CFS brigade can respond into an MFS brigades area and extinguish a fire without telling them?

Seems like an odd policy to have.


Just to point out i have nothing against the MFS just trying to make sense of what seems to be a very odd policy!
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #70 on: December 13, 2006, 08:13:28 PM »
No the CFS cant respond to a fire in MFS area and extinguish it and not tell anyone that would be like stealing your big brothers girlfriend lol. Thats just the rules. I dont make em I`m just the messenger.

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #71 on: December 13, 2006, 09:47:37 PM »
Isn't that more like saying the CFS can extinguish a fire in MFS area without getting permission from Euan first?  I see it as a good thing, not a threat...

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #72 on: December 13, 2006, 10:06:42 PM »
We were bringing our 24P back from NE Isuzu one day and happened upon a VA outside Mitsubishi's at Tonsley the copper asked if we could help we made sure HQ was informed and that mets were responded, needless to say when they rocked up we got a bit of a look so we buggered off and left it in their hands. :-D
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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #73 on: December 14, 2006, 06:05:01 PM »
That happens and Mets dont mind of course, as long as you let them know. Have heard Burnside and Salisbury do it quite a few times.

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Re: Responding Appliances
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2006, 03:11:17 PM »
Isn't that more like saying the CFS can extinguish a fire in MFS area without getting permission from Euan first?  I see it as a good thing, not a threat...

I dont see it as threat i just find it odd! 

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