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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: pumprescue on September 21, 2009, 06:24:29 PM

Title: Crazy talk
Post by: pumprescue on September 21, 2009, 06:24:29 PM
I have been informed that CFS staff were telling the COQ crews last monday night that they should only wear their PBI if turned out to a structure fire otherwise wear your nomex...........do they not have anything better to worry about..... :roll:
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Zippy on September 21, 2009, 06:41:15 PM
nup, i didnt hear anything of this sort...just a Group Officer at 20 told us "All wearing PBI??"  Good stuff to the sir :)

Staff should keep up with the times, because a ever growing percentile of volunteers are doing better jobs then them.
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: crashndash on September 21, 2009, 07:36:02 PM
do they not have anything better to worry about..... :roll:

nope....
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: jaff on September 22, 2009, 12:48:46 AM
so was anyone ACTUALLY told this as in you personally?, or is it just another Peri-Urban myth!
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: BundyBear on September 22, 2009, 12:54:31 AM
Oh my god, I seriously hope this is not true I did a COQ x 2 and we did not see any paid staff but they would of politely been told.

Don't you love it if the statement was true you don't see them for every other job you go to and no station visits but soon as something big is one out they come!

So what's the actual policy for Structure fires only? What about if your at a busy country station or urban fringe brigade get responded to a structure job and one the way back you get paged for an RCR you stop on the side of the road and change gear as if!!!
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Alan J on September 22, 2009, 01:27:32 AM
Good heavens, NO !!!!

You drive back to the station where your other set of PPE has been stored in
the approved manner, change there and store the first PPE in the aproved manner.
Then respond (with due caution and awareness of staff allergy to the risk of
being asked Questions) to the second tasking.

If, on arrival, the job requires the other set of PPE, you return to the
station, continuing to assuage staff allergies to risk (of questions), retrieve
the original PPE, change, correctly store the intermediate PPE, and return to
the ashes of the second job.

I trust this has assisted your understanding of PPE policy as writ.

cheers
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Darren on September 22, 2009, 02:17:16 AM
Haha thats funny, but not surprising, people seem to do their own thing when it comes to PPE, and most staff seem to change their mind on whats what when it comes to PPE.
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: bittenyakka on September 22, 2009, 09:59:37 AM
there is now a Manual, on a cd i believe, about uniforms. I haven't seen it yet. :?
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Zippy on September 22, 2009, 10:22:27 AM
Best idea ever:  Wear PBI Pants, and do switcharoo's with Jackets ;)  Good on ya Lofty Group :)

CFS needs to work on building Inter-Service Credibility....
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: fridgemagnet on September 22, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
Quiet please.

Hang on can you hear it can you I think i can

Yes I can hear it now

That right the sound of Dad's Army

Yes the urban brigade are high vis brigades and we look like a mob of misfits good one to whoever the that twat is. mind you we got the mix and maybe match down pat out in the rural areas just as bad. I know from my own experience that I have seen members turn up in everything from new two piece to the one piece all on the same truck. Nothing like a bit of (in) consistency in our high vis fires
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 22, 2009, 06:29:19 PM
I also heard of this. A certain paid CFS staff member telling the CFS crews at 20 to only wear PBI if its an alarm/structure call..


What were they to do to an MVA, wear there jocks!?
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: BundyBear on September 22, 2009, 07:16:03 PM
Come on which big noting self absorbed tool was it?
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: mattb on September 22, 2009, 08:49:43 PM
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I also heard of this. A certain paid CFS staff member telling the CFS crews at 20 to only wear PBI if its an alarm/structure call..

Interesting, the new uniform manual says you can pretty much wear PBI to everything except rural jobs, it also says the OIC can use his discretion as to what PPE is worn.
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: bittenyakka on September 22, 2009, 10:31:23 PM
Matt i have also been told that by a member of the uniform and PPe committee. However what do you define a tree down as?
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: crashndash on September 22, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
ok...so now we are spending useful oxygen discussing at length which clown suit we wear?....wow....u guys are super funny...lolol
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Alex on September 22, 2009, 11:33:27 PM
bittenyakka - per that poster, 'chainsaw operations'... rural firefighting garment.
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Chinny on September 23, 2009, 12:14:56 AM
We wear our PBI to everything except rural fire because it offers best protection agaist body fluids and the like... oh and we also look semi professional when everyone is dressed in the same gear 8-)
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: mattb on September 23, 2009, 08:10:41 AM
The new manual also says no mixing of PPE, i.e. PBI pants and Nomex jackets.

Given that the Region One Commander was in charge of the uniform committee it could be something that he pushes a bit.
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: pumprescue on September 25, 2009, 08:45:11 AM
Ah love it, the person making the rules isn't a BA operator, in fact I don't he ever has been...I love this service.

Is the SES recruiting...... :-P
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: 2468 on September 25, 2009, 02:45:30 PM
What go from mixed gear to lolly pop uniform?  :roll:
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: crashndash on September 25, 2009, 08:57:40 PM
nice shiny poster showing non Aust Standards PBI gloves on too....u would have thought someone might have checked..lol...or even known  :evil:
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Baxter on September 25, 2009, 10:40:22 PM
I always go for the mix and match in fact depending on the incident it can be a bit on the handy side of things half orange half yellow. I reckon it is better look than causals and a tabbard that I have seen way to often from a service
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Mike on September 28, 2009, 08:04:36 AM
There was a poster?  :?
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: TillerMan on September 28, 2009, 08:33:31 AM
I always go for the mix and match in fact depending on the incident it can be a bit on the handy side of things half orange half yellow. I reckon it is better look than causals and a tabbard that I have seen way to often from a service

Oooooh yeah, my god just when it couldn't get worse someone comes in and beats it.
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: crashndash on September 28, 2009, 07:10:43 PM
There was a poster?  :?

sure was Mike....there was a shitload of money left over from the re-directed paving of the RCR area at Brukunga and so they thought how can we usefully spend as much as we can by the end of the FY....so lets have a nice A2 size poster

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oh yeah..ok...so i admit, theres an element of embellishment in there....u caught me out...lol
Title: Re: Crazy talk
Post by: Baxter on September 28, 2009, 09:54:09 PM
Come on Tillerman get with the program outside the metro area in those small rural communities the volunteer is rare species that is spread very thinly and sometimes toasted.

When you have a small pool of volunteers for three services you expect a bit of confusion if it assist SAAS with a pateint to be moved or assist the SES with a storm job.

Maybe out model of the service ain't working and  I don't care if the RO or RC catch being a mixed bag of lollies they will not say a word as I told them I will operate that way. Considering they put the blame on the other service anyway if it goes pear shape but will take credit when it is all good