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Country Fire Service / Re: MT LOFTY FIRE TOWER
« on: December 04, 2010, 10:47:50 PM »

Good work by the tower crew. Proves those who say "fires in the MLR will always be called in by someone on the ground" wrong. Yes the MLR may be densely populated compared to days gone by, and most calls will originate from someone on the ground, but towers including Lofty and Mt. Crawford still have their place.


Any ideas so to how staffing of the tower is rostered. Is it based on predicted FDI?





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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: December 03, 2010, 12:10:23 AM »
02-12-10 17:54:34    LYNDOCH 24 AT TORRENS VALLEY MECHANICAL SPRINGTON FOR BLOCKED RADIATOR & CRUD IN FUEL TANK/SYSTEM. ********* **********. - CFS Barossa Officers Info


So now we know why Lyndoch 24 is offline and at Dr. Springton. Wonder what caused the radiator blockage and 'crud in fuel system'.



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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: December 03, 2010, 12:08:20 AM »

EIGHT alarms at the Remand Centre between 18:00 and 23:59 Thursday 2nd December. Didn't even bother looking before 18:00hrs, but wouldn't be surprised if there are even more. Are MFS even bothring to get in their trucks to attend these anymore?

Surely this is getting beyond a joke........... what are MFS doing about this? Who is the brain who designed the fire alarm system for the Remand Centre?  What will it take for someone to do something? For a delayed response by MFS to a real incident caused because they're attending yet another false alarm at the Remand Centre. Are MFS even charging for the attendance fees?

Why not ban smoking int he cells, wouldn't it be a simple fix to the problem. You can't smoke in a hospital or government building, so why is the Remand Centre any different. CRAZY!!!!!!

Almost worth moving the MFS Station to the Remand Centre, the response time would be amazing.

I'd welcome your thoughts from your forumites.

02-12-10 18:52:55    MFS: *CFSRES INC083 02/12/10 18:52,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,FIP INSIDE FRONT FOYER,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

02-12-10 19:17:02    MFS: *CFSRES INC087 02/12/10 19:16,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,FIP INSIDE FRONT FOYER,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

02-12-10 19:52:42    MFS: *CFSRES INC100 02/12/10 19:52,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,FIP INSIDE FRONT FOYER,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

02-12-10 20:39:08    MFS: *CFSRES INC110 02/12/10 20:38,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

02-12-10 21:10:06    MFS: *CFSRES INC114 02/12/10 21:09,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,FIP INSIDE FRONT FOYER,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

02-12-10 22:03:36    MFS: *CFSRES INC122 02/12/10 22:03,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

02-12-10 22:30:36    MFS: *CFSRES INC127 02/12/10 22:30,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,FIP INSIDE FRONT FOYER,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

02-12-10 23:15:01    MFS: *CFSRES INC132 02/12/10 23:14,RESPOND ALARM 010/041,ADELAIDE REMAND CENTRE,240 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 6 TG182,FIP INSIDE FRONT FOYER,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 30, 2010, 11:34:26 PM »
30-11-10 17:07:43    LYNDOCH 24 OFF LINE FOR REPAIRS DUE TO ENGINE FUEL & TEMPERATURE PROBLEMS. LYNDOCH 34P TO BE USED UNTIL REPAIRS CARRIED OUT. ********* **********. - CFS Lyndoch Info


Looks like Lyndoch 24 was a little worse for wear following its big day out yesterday. A timely reminder of the dangers faced when driving offroad in a smokey environment. Good decision by the driver/OIC to stop before the truck rolled, could have averted disaster by doing this.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 29, 2010, 08:34:10 PM »
29-11-10 19:27:12 LYNDOCH 24 TO REMAIN ON SCENE TONIGHT FOLLOWING AN OPERATIONAL INCIDENT. TO BE RECOVERED TOMORROW MORNING 0900. MEMBERS RETURNED SAFE. ********* *********** - CFS Barossa Officers Info


Anyone know what happened? Hope it was nothing too serious, glad to see the crew were returned safe.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Apollo Gold Pagers.
« on: November 26, 2010, 12:17:15 AM »
Any idea how to get the reminder tone to actually stay off, I have set mine to off and it still goes off on reminder tone.

Same problem here, i set the 'reminder alert' to off and it still goes off continually to remind you there is an unread message. Very annoying when you get a non-response message early in the morning before you get up. Even on vibrate, the thing is loud enough to wake you up.

They have a great screen and the vibrate is almost good enough to shake off your pants, but that's about all. The menu setup, pager size, features (i.e. tones) are pretty poor in my opinion. Most CFS members i have spoken to are dreading the day their old Samsung pager needs to be replaced.

On a positive, fantastic service by the new paging contractor, pagers are available off the shelf and programmed quickly. But the question remains, are the Appolos the best pagers for CFS vollies, or has cost made the decision rather than practicality/ease of use.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Short 1.8 million in training?
« on: November 25, 2010, 07:50:24 PM »
Agree with the bulk of that fire000...

But I reckon the section in relation to speed past emergency vehicles comes under the RTA, Division 9, Section 83, not under the ARR....

Pip


Thanks for correcting me Pip, after all with your work you're in a better position to know traffic rules/regs than me.


cheers

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Country Fire Service / Re: Short 1.8 million in training?
« on: November 25, 2010, 07:26:55 PM »
Some of us enforce a 25 km/h limit now.

When your car/truck/appliance/helicopter blocks 1.5 of 2 lanes- traffic has not much choice but to crawl past.


Not sure if everyone understands the speed issue here.

Under the Fire and Emergency Services Act 2005, Section 97 (2) (f) CFS personnel have the power to direct or prohibit the movement of vehicles. CFS are not required to use traffic control signs or warning devices - nor does CFS train its personnel in traffic management (as per DTEI's standards). These procedures are further detailed in the Chief Officer's Standing Orders number 9 and Fire Ground Practice 16.1.

So yes, as Boredmatrix mentioned you can stop/direct traffic, as happened with his chopper landing incident. Whilst the responsibility for traffic management lies with SAPOL, as you would know it often comes back to CFS to do the hands on work. If SAPOL are not present and the OIC feels unsafe about the traffic situation, close the road. As Boredmatric mentioned, the safety of crew and patients has to come first.

The issue being discussed here is the 40km/hr past ALL emergency services vehicles displaying red/blue flashing lights or sounding a siren, at all incidents or whilst traveling to an incident. My understanding is this comes under the Australian Road Rules. It's designed to protect ALL emergency services vehicles, including instances where there may be 1 truck/ ambulance on scene and no one free to direct traffic/ do traffic control.

In theory, people should be doing 40km/hr past us at all times on scene, and the new proposal being discussed is to make it 25km/hr default speed past emergency services vehicles.If roadworks have a speed of 25km/hr to protect their crews, why should emergency services be any different.  Yes, as we currently see not everyone follows the current 40km/hr, and not everyone will follow the 25km/hr if/when it come into effect - but surely every measure to improve our safety counts. Will be interesting to see what happens.





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Country Fire Service / Re: Short 1.8 million in training?
« on: November 23, 2010, 02:00:41 AM »

The 25kms past emergency applainces has not come in yet and is along way off coming in, The driver fatigue laws(log books) is still a ongoing issue as CFS is not yet exempt as the wrong person signed off on that paperwork. There is documentation floating around has to how that 1.8 million is to be spent and most of that would go on wages to employ more training staff so that courses can go ahead. I am sure your group officer can supply you with a copy of the paperwork
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Last i heard was that DTEI (Dept. Transport Energy and Infrastructure) were against the change. Even if they were for it, wouldn't it involve a change to an Act of parliament, thus requiring going through state parliament. I agree it's stupid the 40km/hr wasn't 25km/hr to start with, but don't think the change will be something as simple as getting 'signed off', it's a bit more involved than that.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Short 1.8 million in training?
« on: November 19, 2010, 02:39:33 PM »

It's a terrible situation when we can send thousands of dollars to Puglia in Italy, and send a tram line to the Entertainment Centre, yet we can't provide the basic training and equipment to Vollies. What has our state come to.


When we go to fires/RCR/hazmat, we don't ask to be paid, we don't even expect to have anyone say "thanks for going", but what we do expect is to be provided with the training and equipment we need to do our job. If CFS Vollies were to disappear overnight, the cost to replace us with a paid force would be massive......... not practical. We care about our Community, so going on strike isn't an option.... it'd only make us look bad.

Who have we elected to represent us as our Government if we can't deliver on the basic necessities of society (e.g. emergency services) before we go blow all the money on Italian towns, and various other luxuries. I wonder sometime if our leaders are living in la la land.


In terms of managing the money we currently have, it makes me wonder what research is done into new CFS appliances. The latest i hear with the new 34/34Ps is a problem with "after burning" in the catalytic converter and its potential to start grass fires as well as halt an appliance in its tracks. Something designed to make these appliances comply with the new Euro emissions standards, why was this not picked up during the selection phase? If people can afford to go to Germany to take photos, how about spending some time doing some decent research into appliance design and selection. It's a hard job to do with limited budget, but we need to get our priorities right. By all means keep an eye on new appliance design and technology (the web is a great resource now, it's not always necessary to travel across the other side of the world to have a look), but keep the focus on what the service needs.







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Country Fire Service / Re: Short 1.8 million in training?
« on: November 18, 2010, 09:00:15 PM »
Or driver training - the one task we do everytime we go to a call, but have only a short course, which doesn't really cover everything it perhaps should.....

Pip


Agree 110% on the lack of detailed driver training.

Is the 'Drive Vehicles Under Operational Conditions' unit compulsory to drive CFS vehicles on the fireground, or is is still up to the Captain of an individual Brigade to have the final say?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 16, 2010, 05:17:45 PM »

I hope the person who sent out this message is counseled. By all means promote safe driving, but blatant attempts to avoid speed cameras are unwelcome.

Yes, time to be counseled for looking after your mates.
Get real :x



Tft,

If you care about your mates, you'd want them to be driving safe all the time, not just when there's a speed camera around the place.

If was just my view that the paging service shouldn't be used as a speed camera lookout service. No need for the personal attacks Tft.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 16, 2010, 09:22:53 AM »
So whats the difference in sending a page to members advising of the camera, and the camera's position being printed in the paper, or announced on various radio stations?

Pip


The TV and radio aren't government owned resources. Then again it prob only cost $0.0000001 to send out, so was insignificant, and may have got some people up that way to slow down last night. You're forgiven Mr Coro :-)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 15, 2010, 11:12:52 PM »
15-11-10 11:08:10    CRML INFO: SPEED CAMERA MAIN ROAD CORO, IN BUS STOP BY BOTTOM OF ACKLANDS HILL ROAD - CFS Coromandel Valley Info

I thought we were meant to obey all road rules on the way to the station. If so then a page like this really isnt necessary......

Surely this would be a misue of resources (ie. the paging network). As mentioned above, if the road rules were being obeyed there would have been no need for a message like this.

I hope the person who sent out this message is counseled. By all means promote safe driving, but blatant attempts to avoid speed cameras are unwelcome.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: November 14, 2010, 09:57:27 PM »
Surely the false alarms at the Remand Centre are getting ridiculous. If smoking is banned from Government Buildings, why not the Remand Centre also?


MFS will soon be able to buy a new appliance with the cash they rake in from attending alarms at the Remand Centre.




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All Equipment discussion / Re: New CFS Village Pumper
« on: November 14, 2010, 04:17:01 PM »

Thank goodness there's no 'tank fill', the most dangerous piece of plumbing on newer heavy tankers.


Why is the tank fill so dangerous?

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