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SAMFS / Re: New Bronto
« on: June 12, 2009, 08:58:18 AM »
Last time I saw it in Moore's yard (couple of weeks ago) it had just had some SA-Heavy Vehicle plates put on it which would mean it was registered wouldn't it??  Didn't have blue government plates on though.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Letter n Badge from Premier Vic re Blak Saturday
« on: June 01, 2009, 06:55:08 PM »
Opened mine about 10 mins ago, wasn't expecting anything so nice touch I think.

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Country Fire Service / Re: New Fatigue Management Regulations for drivers
« on: May 11, 2009, 12:10:55 PM »
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on May 10, 2009, 07:54:03 AM
So is it fair that Volunteers go and buy these books?? why cant we just use the appliance log book and change drivers every 3 hours?? So how would it work if we where to say go into Victoria drive CFA appliances and the same driver drives all the time as was the case in a the Victorian fires of 2009 as CFS only pick one person to drive..We can only hope that we will be exempt as is the case in other state's...

Why shouldn't the volunteer have to pay for the logbook, your license does not restrict you to only driving CFS trucks so why should they pay?

As far as I can work out and from brief discussions with the Traffic Inspectors (rather than SAPOL as this is not their area of specialty), it is as mentioned above, the only exemption from the whole system is for the travel TO an emergency incident and not to get home again.

I'm guessing we will be seeing a bit more of situations such as we experienced at Bookmark this season where upon coming off the fireground, we waited for a coach to bring all crews and drivers home (the coach brought fresh drivers up with it to take the appliances home).  While I support what is trying to be achieved here, it does extend the day somewhat by the time the coach drops off at several locations etc - there is only one plus point and that is the consumption of BEER on the coach.

Perhaps in this situation, the crews should be coached up as well and utilise 'local' appliances - might work in some situations.....

Also interesing your quote about the Vic fires and only 'one' driver - I can see this being the case if you only had a single qualified driver on the crew, we had three on our crew (two CFS and the MFS chap) and drove for one-day each to share the load.  However, in this case the daily trips would of been within 100km of the base so not really relevant to the legislation.

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Incident Operations / Re: Car vs guard rail accident
« on: March 30, 2009, 11:08:35 AM »
Thanks!
Am getting one of the field services chap to do a drive past today....


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Incident Operations / Re: Car vs guard rail accident
« on: March 30, 2009, 09:23:52 AM »
Was any of my guard-rail damaged??

The issue I get is that no-one tells DTEI (should in theory be SAPOL) that they have issues with damage of g/rail or signs etc (Anyone can ring our 24 hour Traffic Control Centre on 1800 018 313).

We then get slated for not repairing in appropriate times as we often only discover the damage days after when someone passes the site.

Note that the number above is also the one used by SAPOL if DTEI assistance is needed for detour assistance etc etc.  The guys there will also tell whoever rings if the road concerned is a DTEI controlled one or a Council controlled one.

 

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Emergency Vehicles / Re: SACFS Wattle range BWC
« on: March 17, 2009, 04:13:57 PM »
Not to be contraversial, but with a truck like that I reckon it is better to have no burnover protection and personal protection line.

Why?

Well to me that means that the truck should never go into the true 'hot' zone where it could be a liability.

At least with that defined, a staging point for water supply can be set-up at an incident (as said before, a dam is pretty essential), but there is then little risk of the truck being put into situations it really should not be in - and by that I also mean in steep/slippy terrain etc where an inexperienced driver could easily get the truck into a lot of issues

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Emergency Vehicles / Re: SACFS Wattle range BWC
« on: March 16, 2009, 08:30:07 PM »
Does it carry a floating collar dam??

I kind of agree with the above, if it can only carry 6800litres surely it should be either a more capable 4wd to get to the appliances or have a dam so that it can set up and then shuttle water to a set point.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Burn Over Curtains for Command Cars
« on: March 09, 2009, 09:57:38 AM »
Quote from: misterteddy on March 08, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
hmmm...on a slightly off (but related) topic.....anyone else picked up on the no more Landcruisers for Command cars thing?.....thank Fleet SA for another stunning policy in splendid isolation

It's all about the luxury car tax thing isn't it - have you checked the retail on one of those these days.... 

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Country Fire Service / Re: Burn Over Curtains for Command Cars
« on: March 07, 2009, 10:22:39 AM »
Ok, no more Cruisers, Prado's, Navara's etc.....  how about mini-FireKings???

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Burnside Pumper
« on: March 04, 2009, 01:41:28 PM »
I'd make the same comment no matter what brigade, appliance, situation.  This forum is a public one, the photo is viewable by anyone/everyone, surely we should try and do the 'right' thing in the public eye?

Regardless of that and being in no way up to speed with the politics etc that have followed this around, the truck looks fantastic and should easily be up to the jobs it will be put to.

I can however relate to the brigades position and some of the negative and positive reactions and comments being a member of the brigade that houses the Region 3 Hook Truck come Tanker.......

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Burnside Pumper
« on: March 04, 2009, 01:00:14 PM »
Good to see everyone wearing appropriate PPE with good traffic control in place in the photo above :roll:

Nice looking truck and the battenburg deffo works when out and about, have experienced it on the freeway several times now.

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Country Fire Service / Training frequency
« on: March 03, 2009, 06:55:53 AM »
More likely for members that want to put their names up for Vic but are denied as they haven't done this years drill (or the paperwork has not been submitted)....

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: February 27, 2009, 08:26:10 AM »
1909192 09:29:35 27-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC031 27/02/09 09:27,RESPOND SHED FIRE,2 TALBOT RD,WATERLOO CORNER MAP 48 M 12 TG102,NOW OUT - SMOULDERING TRADESMAN ON SCENE, PATRICK 0414373271 BELIEVED TO BE ARSON, ATTACK SAPOL NOTIFIED,VIRG19 SLSB19 CFS Virginia Response


Someone throw some water on that poor tradey before he spontaneously combusts! :roll:

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SA Firefighter General / Code of Practice for the management of native vegetation
« on: February 26, 2009, 12:40:37 PM »
Received the following in work today, haven't had the chance to read it yet but may proove useful to some of us.....

Good morning
I am emailing you to advise that a Code of Practice for the management of native vegetation to reduce the impact of bushfire has recently become available on our website.
The Code is a user-friendly guide outlining the provisions of the Native Vegetation Act 1991 in relation to the management of native vegetation, clearance and fire protection.
Jointly developed by the Department of Water, Land and Biodiversity Conservation, Department of Heritage and Environment, South Australian Country Fire Service and the Native Vegetation Council, the Code provides land managers with a clear and consistent approach to the management of native vegetation to reduce the impact of bushfire while still recognising the need to maintain and protect our State's important biodiversity assets.
While the clearance of native vegetation is controlled by the Native Vegetation Act 1991  and various regulations, established exemptions allow the clearance of native vegetation without formal consent (from the Native Vegetation Council) for a range of fire risk management works. Those exemptions recognise the need to protect life and property while minimising the clearance of native vegetation.
The next step is for the Native Vegetation Council to consider delegating clearance approvals to CFS officers, further streamlining the process.
We continue to be committed to reducing the impact of bushfires on community and environmental assets, seeking to effectively minimise native vegetation fuel hazard levels. This Code will be reviewed after 18 months, and may be reviewed earlier as information following recent fire events becomes available.
The code can be viewed at:

http://www.dwlbc.sa.gov.au/native/fire/cop.html
            

Regards
Dennis Mutton
Chair
Native Vegetation Council

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: February 22, 2009, 07:57:39 PM »
Quote from: SA Firey on February 22, 2009, 04:55:35 PM
Meadows Info, would the last driver of 24P like to go to station and try to start the truck please. The isolator was on when i was just at station.CFS Meadows Info

Meadows Info. Message to all drivers of appliances. If trucks are not
isolated then our responsibility to respond is at risk. The community
expects us to respond when called. Please make sure trucks are
isolated as this saves alot of embarrassment
CFS Meadows Info

WOOPS


I hope this was done 'tongue-in-cheek' otherwise I think it's a bit insulting and could of been said/done in a much more positive way such as reminding everyone in the brigade or on the truck the principle of looking out for one another and ensuring all required tasks are done. 

Obviously I do not know the individual situation as to what happened when they got back to the station and whether the VOLUNTEER driver had to rush away etc....?????
or whether this is aimed an one individual that has done it on many occasions, might just be a case of the written word not carrying the whole story!

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Emergency Vehicles / Re: CFA Sale tanker
« on: February 19, 2009, 09:55:51 AM »
Can happen on older trucks too!  The Region10.3 spare we were using at the Churchill fires started running backwards when performing a stall start during a failed hill climb - took me a second or two to work out what the .... was going on!!!!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Employers and Interstate / Longer Term Deployment
« on: February 17, 2009, 10:22:04 AM »
I work for the State Government (Department for Transport, Energy and Infrastructure) and they are very supportive of my time off for my CFS duties.

I am lucky in so far as I get paid my basic wage regardless of time away from the office, classes as 'Special Leave with Pay for Emergency Services Duty'.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: stowage of road cones on rural 24
« on: February 16, 2009, 07:00:28 PM »
I don't reckon the truck could go fast enough for them to flip off......

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SA Firefighter General / Re: How to use the momentum?
« on: February 16, 2009, 11:59:18 AM »
All of the above is great but if you cannot make the process of getting approval to clear any easier it just will not happen.

I remember a story on the news where a couple got fined 30k for clearing around their house even though approval had been denied - theirs was the only house in the area that survived...... 30k well spent I'd say!!!!!

While understanding the need for the environmentalists to have some say and to ensure that re-planting occurs or that completely unneccesary clearances do not happen, the current system is just dysfunctional.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Interstate deployments
« on: February 16, 2009, 11:10:40 AM »
You are remembered for what you do, not what you wore when you turned up!

Those I met and spoke to while on the first deployment could not of cared less what we were wearing, just grateful and thankful we were there!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Size of BWC's
« on: January 30, 2009, 11:24:12 AM »
Also needs some swanky mathematical formula as it also depends on how far away the nearest water supply is for the tanker to how many appliances and of what type it will need to fill (whether it has a dam or not) etc etc

And for me, they should be equipped with both PTO and non-pto (either a floating pump and or a trash-type pump) but I am in an area where you never know where you will have to get water from to fill the tank.  Not so important if the tanker is only used where there is guaranteed reticulated water.....

Not such an easy question to answer me-thinks!

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Country Fire Service / Re: Heat Wave
« on: January 26, 2009, 12:48:51 PM »
Hmm, now what chores shall I do when it's really hot - should I go and cut that steel up with my angle grinder or maybe weld up that old water tank in the paddock...... no.... I think this week I'll get the mower out and trim up the stoney paddock at the side of the scrubby area next to the haystack and the shed full of vintage machinery......

Don't laugh, there's some ****wit out there thinking this right now........


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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: January 20, 2009, 06:41:47 AM »
Not so sure about that one Zippy, many brigades do not shower love and affection on any 'spare' truck like they do on their own - eg damage, swapping things that are better then they already have over! (or just removing them...).

Would take a keen eye and an active brigade to be in charge of the spare to keep on top of that and pull up the offenders, especially if trucks are passed between brigades/groups without being returned to their 'home' station.

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Incident Operations / Re: Helicopter crash
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:11:01 PM »
Reckon it must be a slow news day, within an hour, there were three media helicopters on the ground along with half a dozen media cars as well as the Rescue helicopter airlifting the two trapped occupants...

Could of been a lot worse had there been a fire on impact especially if the paddock had had more than the very small amount of stubble that it had.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Paid jobs
« on: November 10, 2008, 08:00:39 AM »
Those advertised salaries would be just the basic wage??

The earned wage would be higher once allowances paid (making the assumption that there are allowances paid for things like being on-call, excess hours worked etc etc

Just need to make sure that you compare similar figures for all people.

However, looking at the grades on offer, I believe they are definitely low for the tasks performed and responsibilities carried, I sure as hell know that I would not be applying for a paid role with grades (and hence salaries) like that!

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