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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: pete on July 28, 2008, 06:34:11 PM

Title: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: pete on July 28, 2008, 06:34:11 PM
How many CFS stations out there are fitted with fume extraction systems?Because i think they are a great idea. :-)
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: bittenyakka on July 28, 2008, 06:39:18 PM
We have a big roller door at the front of the station and a big sliding door on the side and if you open both you get something akin to a wind tunnel :-D

On a more serious note i think there is better places for the money to go.
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 28, 2008, 06:43:59 PM
Seaford have one i think.
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: SA Firey on July 28, 2008, 06:57:23 PM
Spinning roof vents are cheap :wink:
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: Firefrog on July 28, 2008, 08:01:42 PM
The particulate in diesel fumes is dangerous! All stations should be fitted with a powered exhaust system. IMO
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: boredmatrix on July 29, 2008, 12:02:22 AM
why spend $$ on expensive systems?

don't you already have BA?
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: Gilly on July 29, 2008, 12:45:46 AM
We have a big extraction fan that starts when the pager interface is activated on an alert tone (lights on, roller door up). can also be manually switched on. It runs for about 10 minutes or until its turned off. It does a pretty good job.
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: chook on July 29, 2008, 06:48:48 AM
We have "Whirley Birds" on the roof & big sliding doors - same wind tunnel effect(drive through shed).
The trucks shouldn't be left idling in the shed anyway, positive ventilation should only be used if the exposure is "constant" i.e. it's a workshop or there is a fleet of trucks parked in there & they were also started at the same time.
I know the particulates in diesel fume are not good for you but the exposure is low in most cases. We had higher exposure in a transport yard when 30 trucks were started at the same time :-D And as the man said "you have BA" :wink:
cheers
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: mengcfs on July 29, 2008, 02:08:05 PM
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The trucks shouldn't be left idling in the shed anyway
Not sure how we are supposed to  build up air pressure for brakes then, oh, rev the crap out of them - they won't be idling then  :-P
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: Cameron Yelland on July 29, 2008, 04:33:02 PM
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The trucks shouldn't be left idling in the shed anyway
Not sure how we are supposed to  build up air pressure for brakes then, oh, rev the crap out of them - they won't be idling then  :-P

your trucks lose air?  might wanna get that checked out!
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: chook on July 29, 2008, 05:15:43 PM
Yep understand the need to build up air (3 minutes tops) - don't know about you but our doors are open when thats happening & as soon as it can moved it's driven outside. Not sure of your response requirements but our target is 6 minutes from when the pager drops. So they don't sit in the shed long.
What I mean't was just starting them up to test everything - same deal they are moved out side once the brakes release.
I know of some brigades & units that have an air line connected, just like the battery backup so the system is fully charged all of the time, it's something the new management team are looking into this financial year.
cheers
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: 49194 on July 29, 2008, 07:03:20 PM
Hooking up to compressor/air systems would solve the problem.

A small cost to set up, however alot better for your health.
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: Alan J on July 29, 2008, 11:19:27 PM
your trucks lose air?  might wanna get that checked out!

Theory is that it shouldn't happen. Our Hino is fine.
But 3 foot-valves later we've come to the conclusion with our 1991
Suzi that fixing it will require all new cylinders & brake lines.
Seems that its previous brigade were none too fussy about draining
the cylinder condensate regularly.... It's hooked up to a compressor
now, so no response delay.

Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: SA Firey on July 30, 2008, 09:16:36 AM
A common problem with the 24P's was losing air from the drivers seat...partly due to people sitting in it while appliance was not running.
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: mengcfs on July 30, 2008, 10:34:38 AM
Yep understand the need to build up air (3 minutes tops) - don't know about you but our doors are open when thats happening & as soon as it can moved it's driven outside. Not sure of your response requirements but our target is 6 minutes from when the pager drops. So they don't sit in the shed long.
What I mean't was just starting them up to test everything - same deal they are moved out side once the brakes release.
I know of some brigades & units that have an air line connected, just like the battery backup so the system is fully charged all of the time, it's something the new management team are looking into this financial year.
cheers

My previous post was intended to be sarcastic chook :wink:
Yeah our doors go up when the first person enters their code to the station so no real dramas with toxin build up, however an extraction system would be nice hey.
Title: Re: Diesel Fumes Inside
Post by: chook on July 30, 2008, 11:38:46 AM
Ah no worries :-D (i'm starting to get a bit slow picking that stuff up due to longer hours & increased pressure in my payed life), however I'm disappointed I missed it :wink:
cheers