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SA Firefighter General / Re: 200 Members
« on: January 06, 2006, 08:53:00 AM »
Now all we need is a few of the lurkers to contribute to the discussion.

Love to hear from some of the silent members!!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Urban Fire Brigades Are Better...
« on: January 06, 2006, 08:45:25 AM »
I'm sure you were after a bite so I'll give you one :-)

Is a vollie urban Brigade who does a lot of calls but has access to many, many resources around them and possibly has another three of four stations (possibly full time) within 20 minutes of them needier or more deserving than a Brigade that handles half the calls (or less) but has access to no resources within 20 minutes and is all the town and it's assets has??

Different Brigades do have different needs but all stations should be a decent standard.

I have aoften pondered why I could purchase land and build three brick four bedroom houses (at least in my area) for the price they quote for a new station here!!!!

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Other Government Agencies / Re: Co-location of local headquarters
« on: January 03, 2006, 11:39:35 AM »
How long ago did the SES move out of CFS R3 HQ?

The only thing that has made me feel the slightest bit abusive in sixteen years of visiting Regional HQ is the counter to ceiling bars :-)

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Country Fire Service / Re: CFS ID's, How do i get them?
« on: January 03, 2006, 11:27:22 AM »
Yep - used when contacting businesses in person (in civvies) re response planning and in the organisation of training activities.

Also used when peering over a back fence checking out a perfectly legal fire that a "concerned citizen" had made contact over.

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Country Fire Service / Re: You'll Pay, Black Tuesday Victims To Sue CFS
« on: January 03, 2006, 11:18:33 AM »
Oh, please!

What was the SES vollie supposed to have said?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Question
« on: January 03, 2006, 11:07:54 AM »
Reading above, with the (believed) non-compliance to Aus Standard, does that mean if you are injured, and put in a form, you aren't covered cause you didn't have Aus Standard gear on??  Like will you be told that you shouldn't have been wearing the gear, or that you should have worn PBI ??

From my previous experience as a WorkCover Claims administrator - please rest assured that, as an "employee" for WorkCover purposes,you will be covered regardless of whether you are wearing a strapless dress. Of course you will probably face disciplinary action from your employer for non compliance of procedures and never ride an appliance again  :roll:

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Country Fire Service / Re: Official bushfire warnings
« on: January 03, 2006, 10:53:57 AM »
I also think that although people might not take much notice of a "generic warning", as soon as they hear a suburb close by mentioned, they would pay attention...

Yes, when you hear your town/suburb your ears might prick up. But these generic messages don't actually tell you anything beyond there is a fire burning at blank in blank direction. If its the first category then a generic message about general non incident specific bushfire safety, second category different generic message and then the generic reduced threat message.

My inbox full of these warnings has told me absolutely nothing of use or interest about the fires. I hope they are serving their purpose of alerting the local residents. But if they are used the same for fires of differing intensities and risks, the general public may well be aclimatised to them when the critical one comes along.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Responding to Incidents
« on: January 03, 2006, 10:15:48 AM »
Once we had the kind of Group Officer who, if he showed up at 2am to a fixed alarm, we would welcome with open arms. Unfortunately he's gone the way of many of our really good people and left the service.

I guess the GO's span of control is the whole group and if they choose to come and have a look see at an incident it is completely withing their "operational (and other) responsibilities".

And if the OIC of the single Brigade involved believes that the GO is taking over control unecessarily I guess they can advise the GO of that :-)

And if the GO wants to take over anyway, maybe they don't trust the Brigade OIC.

And if the Brigade OIC's think the GO is an annoyance and a siren jockey I guess they don't vote him/her in next time round.  :lol:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Problems recruiting new CFS members
« on: January 03, 2006, 09:57:01 AM »
The CEO is publicly stating that we have inadequate volunteer numbers due to societal trends. And hiring more aerial support because of it!

Interesting to note that ABC radio picked up on it and requested an interview this morning. Was anyone listening or knows whether Euan was able to make it?(Looks like pretty short notice!)
SHQ: LISA - ABC RADIO WOULD LIKE TO TALKE TO EUAN RE YESTEDAY'S RELEASE RE NEED FOR MORE VOLUNTEERS ON AIR WITH ANNETTE MAHER AT 0710, < 3/01/2006 06:48:30

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Other Government Agencies / Re: Co-location of local headquarters
« on: December 27, 2005, 02:03:56 PM »
Region Three Headqaurters in Murray Bridge houses the SES head honcho.
Definate disadvantages. Guess the advantages are economic, can't really think of any others. Although the VSO there serves both organisations so I guess that is handy for organisational leaders.

The office used to be stunning example of a volunteer friendly environment with a volunteer lounge/tea/coffee/water facilities, fire/rescue library.

I guess in the interests of efficiency, it is now a place you would avoid like the plague, complete with counter to ceiling bars separating the staff from it's onery clients.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Official bushfire warnings
« on: December 27, 2005, 01:49:41 PM »
I'm not sure but I don't think the general public will take
too much notice of these warnings when they are all
written in that generic format. I think once you've heard one
or two, there is a fire burning at (fill in the blank) in a
(fill in the blank) direction and residents should blah blah
blah then you tend to switch off for the third to thirty three
hundreth times.

Interesting to note that the nasty car vs truck
that resulted in airlift at Cooke Plains the other day was,
in this bushfire orientated environment, reported by
CFS as a fire and accordingly reported in the
Advertiser as a smaller fire in bushland still uncontained.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire Ban Days
« on: December 27, 2005, 01:42:34 PM »
There is no rule about family members together.

But I guess your OIC has the right to say who is approved for the job.

I had a couple in the Brigade once that I would try very hard to ensure weren't on the same appliance because of the way they were together. Too much to deal with without them carrying on :-)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire Ban Days
« on: December 27, 2005, 01:37:41 PM »
Mmmm, wishing for extreme conditions tends to suggest that the wisher has not seen too many nasty fires!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New 34P
« on: November 27, 2005, 03:29:11 PM »
Well we're prescribed 6, have 4 but would be a few operators short if we  6 using the 2 operators per set rule of thumb :-)

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Women of the Fire Industry / Re: La Trobe University Survey
« on: November 27, 2005, 03:11:51 PM »
Might pay to check if your members are on TAS - you'd be suprised who isn't!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New 34P
« on: November 22, 2005, 02:50:46 PM »
The area that our brigade covers behind Mt Barker is one of the fastest growing areas in the state,

The area that our Brigade covers (ie: Goolwa and surrounds) is, after Mt Barker, one of the fastest growing areas of the state.

Think that's what was meant :-)

So how many BA sets do you have?

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Country Fire Service / Re: fire and emergency services act 2005
« on: November 21, 2005, 10:06:28 AM »
The section of the Act that covered powers of an officer then when on to state that in the absence of an officer then the firefighter in charge may exercise all of these powers with the exception of lighting a fire to control of fire. Not quite the same as stating powers of a firie :-)

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Country Fire Service / Re: mutual aid...
« on: November 18, 2005, 12:54:57 PM »
Good advice.

I would imagine every single Brigade either "bends", manipulates, ignores or simply does not understand some SOP's. (An example would be appliances rolling with 3 firefighters knowing that others will be meeting them on scene)

I guess we never think that we may be in a coroners court explaining why.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: flooding
« on: November 13, 2005, 02:03:11 PM »
Yes, be good if you invite them here for a chat :-)


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SACFS/

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SA Firefighter General / Re: bashed!!!
« on: November 13, 2005, 11:20:25 AM »
I'm sorry that you feel, "bashed". I am pleased to have you on board as an enthusiastic contributor.

I doubt anyone else had issue with the picture :-) I don't harbour any ill feelings - just pointed out that the term was an offensive way to describe disabled persons. Heard much worse, laughed at much worse :-)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: flooding
« on: November 13, 2005, 10:48:06 AM »
There is very interesting discussion re the operational aspects of the flooding at the SACFS group on yahoo groups.

Was that a Gilbert Group vehicle in trouble in the Advertiser picture?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: stop/slow - speed up sign
« on: November 11, 2005, 09:47:11 AM »
Yes the old

"take possession of, protect or assume control over any land, body of water, building, structure, vehicle or other thing;"

is pretty extensive and has been used in the past to justify CFS doing traffic control also. But aren't we in agreeance that we don't have the authority to do traffic control?

Maybe it's just that we don't wanna do it :-)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: stop/slow - speed up sign
« on: November 10, 2005, 03:22:13 PM »
Please point me to the legislation that allows CFS to close a road.

If SAPOL directs me to move an appliance I comply (after arguing my case as appropriate). Aren't they the combatant authority?

I'm sure SAPOL in many cases would comply with a request from CFS to close a road but if they want it open what, in writing, backs up our authority to act differently.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: stop/slow - speed up sign
« on: November 10, 2005, 12:18:09 PM »
I don't think we have the power to over rule SAPOL if they ask us to clear the road for through traffic?

Sometimes the road simply has to be closed but the ensuing choas ensures that it's never more than completely necessary.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: stop/slow - speed up sign
« on: November 09, 2005, 07:12:13 AM »
I agree about our safety being paramount but have to say that CFS_Firey is spot on - SAPOL make the call and never close the road if humanly possible.

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