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Technical Discussion => Hypotheticals => Topic started by: PF_ on September 02, 2006, 12:12:22 AM

Title: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: PF_ on September 02, 2006, 12:12:22 AM
bushwalkers are reported to be trapped in a bushfire with a young child with the,  The weather is going to be 38degree's and a wind change is expected at about mid-day, it is currently 10:30am.  The area where the bushwalkers are is expected to become a fierce front in a few hours and you are not aware of their exact location.  Do you get the god dam bushwalkers out of the god dam forest?

(the title is a simple reference just like that movie about snakes on a plane  :-P, off topic, sorry toast, anyone seen snakes on a plane?)
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Manuel on September 02, 2006, 12:18:24 AM
get the rescue helicopter to find them and then air lift them out.
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Toast on September 02, 2006, 12:38:31 AM
(the title is a simple reference just like that movie about snakes on a plane  :-P, off topic, sorry toast, anyone seen snakes on a plane?)

... and so you should be. *shakes head* kids these days...
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: PF_ on September 02, 2006, 01:04:41 AM
its my thread though, cant I take it off topic  :-P
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: rescue5271 on September 02, 2006, 08:30:53 AM
Send in air support,and a couple of firekings to get them out.....
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on September 02, 2006, 12:36:24 PM
Send in air support,and a couple of firekings to get them out.....

I agree with blinky send in a fire king or two as they are virtually fire proof as well as bombers to provide air attack 
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on September 02, 2006, 04:09:45 PM
its my thread though, cant I take it off topic  :-P

It's my party and i'll cry if i want to :cry:..... :lol:
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 03, 2006, 03:08:15 PM
Call in a few extra strike teams, put the fire out, mop up, and be home again by the time the wind changes...
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 05, 2006, 05:43:21 PM
Out of curiosity, wouldn't it be the job of SAPol and the SES to evacuate the bushwalkers?
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: bajdas on September 05, 2006, 06:05:08 PM
Out of curiosity, wouldn't it be the job of SAPol and the SES to evacuate the bushwalkers?

Only if CFS deemed the area safe for crews to enter for a search & rescue !

SES sent a strike force to complete the search of the Wangary bushfire area so that CFS crews could concentrate on the mopping up.
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Toast on September 05, 2006, 08:06:22 PM
A certain number of Orange people went searching the surrounds on the site of a certain recent large munitions factory explosion, before the area was deemed safe...
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: bajdas on September 06, 2006, 05:26:27 PM
A certain number of Orange people went searching the surrounds on the site of a certain recent large munitions factory explosion, before the area was deemed safe...

Some areas within the site were deemed safe and a lot of the area was not.

CFS Hazchem crews were working in the more hazardous areas and I understand SES crews worked in the safe area only after it was deemed safe to enter by the authorities.

I was not at the scene, so my information is third hand.
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Toast on September 06, 2006, 06:59:46 PM
A certain number of Orange people went searching the surrounds on the site of a certain recent large munitions factory explosion, before the area was deemed safe...

Some areas within the site were deemed safe and a lot of the area was not.

CFS Hazchem crews were working in the more hazardous areas and I understand SES crews worked in the safe area only after it was deemed safe to enter by the authorities.

I was not at the scene, so my information is third hand.

This was the night before the Hazmat bus arrived.
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 06, 2006, 07:06:40 PM
-=*BANG!*=-

What was that?

Nothing.... Just another SES volunteer finding a landmine...
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: medevac on September 06, 2006, 09:01:24 PM
i wouldnt worry too much about that... from what i heard numerous CFS resources did exactly the same thing, including the HAZMAT teams sent from Adelaide.
    :roll:
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Toast on September 07, 2006, 12:42:31 AM
i wouldnt worry too much about that... from what i heard numerous CFS resources did exactly the same thing, including the HAZMAT teams sent from Adelaide.
    :roll:

There *may* have been a large rusting cylindrical object in the ground next to where the Hazmat Brick was parked the first day it was up there...But we put a road cone on it, so all was safe :D
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: medevac on September 07, 2006, 12:47:26 AM
HAHAHAHAHHA..... out of sight? out of mind.....  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: bajdas on September 07, 2006, 12:09:34 PM
OK, thanks for the better info on Gladstone.

NOW, would you send some CFS vehicles to search know roads & tracks which are away from the immediate fire front in this scenario ?? At least the CFS vehicles would have the resources to deal with spot fires.

Or is this taking too many resources from fighting the fire ?
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: fire03rescue on September 07, 2006, 01:03:59 PM
Life would be more important than the fire
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: The Assistant on September 07, 2006, 01:39:51 PM
You all forget

The CFS Motto

Protect Life (Yours First, then others), Property, Environment

So really this is a hard call
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: medevac on September 07, 2006, 09:24:28 PM
unless you know exactly where the hikers are, then it may be too dangerous to commit crews to search....

may just be a case of deal with the fire and get it 'controlled'  :wink: then call in the orange people to start searching deemed safe areas while CFS mops up...

it would all depend on the days conditions...
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: SA Firey on September 08, 2006, 01:48:01 PM
Bombers for air attack due to inaccessible terrain to control the spread,and reduce the smoke so as air observer could get a clear view of the terrain looking for the hikers,and also send in ground crews to search and mopup. :wink:
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 08, 2006, 03:56:24 PM
Sorry to be anal about it, but it's "Bushwalkers" not "Hikers"... We're Australians here...
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Manuel on September 08, 2006, 03:57:57 PM
or are we?
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: medevac on September 12, 2006, 08:56:58 AM
hikers and bushwalkers would be the same thing
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 12, 2006, 01:34:08 PM
"Hiker" is the American word for "Bushwalker", just like
"Camminatore di Bush" is bushwalker in Italian, "Walker de Bush" is bushwalker in Portuguese, "Marcheur de Bush" is bushwalker in French...  They also all mean the same thing, but you wouldn't use them in an Australian conversation would you ;)
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Toast on September 12, 2006, 02:03:32 PM
"Hiker" is the American word for "Bushwalker", just like
"Camminatore di Bush" is bushwalker in Italian, "Walker de Bush" is bushwalker in Portuguese, "Marcheur de Bush" is bushwalker in French...  They also all mean the same thing, but you wouldn't use them in an Australian conversation would you ;)
You might, Mr. Im oh so well adjusted and literate  :wink:
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: medevac on September 12, 2006, 02:54:14 PM
lol as much as I'm impressed by your range of languages there (or did you cheat lol?). as far as I'm concerned its a hiker, and its hiking....

but its all good. don't worry, i don't pick everyone else up on little grammatical issues...
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 12, 2006, 02:58:24 PM
hehe, yes I cheated... I can't even say hello in most of those languages... :D
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on September 12, 2006, 04:39:51 PM
If any of you have the game Fire Department on your PC you will find that there is a forest fire scenario involving fire supression & rescue of a logger,scouts,people who survived a car accident which results in another fire

The aim of this scenario is to combat the fire around each situation and rescue the casualties who get airlifted by helicopter to saftey

Sorry for going off topic but its what is involved with the scenario which relates to the topic itself  :-D     
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Toast on September 12, 2006, 04:59:16 PM
If any of you have the game Fire Department on your PC you will find that there is a forest fire scenario involving fire supression & rescue of a logger,scouts,people who survived a car accident which results in another fire

The aim of this scenario is to combat the fire around each situation and rescue the casualties who get airlifted by helicopter to saftey

Sorry for going off topic but its what is involved with the scenario which relates to the topic itself  :-D     
Last year we buggered up a backburning op, it got into some houses. We just restarted the incident and it was all good... :roll:
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on September 12, 2006, 06:50:29 PM
Im currently trying to complete this forest fire scenario i was almost finished last night until the stupid helicopter that was supposed to evac the scouts crash and caused another fire which surrounded the scout hall  :cry:

I'll have another crack at it again but this time i'll use the dozer to try and clear a fire break around the scout hall :wink:

Opps i went off topic again sorry  :oops: :lol:
Title: Re: Bushwalkers in a fire
Post by: probie_boy on September 27, 2006, 12:49:28 PM
If any of you have the game Fire Department on your PC you will find that there is a forest fire scenario involving fire supression & rescue of a logger,scouts,people who survived a car accident which results in another fire

The aim of this scenario is to combat the fire around each situation and rescue the casualties who get airlifted by helicopter to saftey

Sorry for going off topic but its what is involved with the scenario which relates to the topic itself  :-D     
Last year we buggered up a backburning op, it got into some houses. We just restarted the incident and it was all good... :roll:

when was that? i don't remember it!