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Title: Biggest Station?
Post by: JamesGar on May 09, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
Who has the biggest CFS station in the state?

Yankalilla Station / Southern Fleurieu Base?
Salisbury Station?
Port Elliot?

What's your thoughts?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Zippy on May 09, 2007, 11:54:32 AM
Kingston's station is quite large..but yes port elliot would have to be pretty close to the largest station.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: SA Firey on May 09, 2007, 11:59:07 AM
What this one

By the way this is for special image posting section James not topics :wink: 
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: car31 on May 09, 2007, 12:04:24 PM
are you just talking about truck bay etc?? Salisbury could take 6 trucks in bay plus a couple of cars and then has multiple large sheds out the back also.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: SA Firey on May 09, 2007, 12:08:43 PM
Hallett would be up there with their new Tajmahal :-D
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: TillerMan on May 09, 2007, 04:29:41 PM
Bordertown is pretty big also, ceduna, naracoorte.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 5271rescue on May 10, 2007, 07:45:38 AM
I would have to say Kingston is by far the biggest
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: RescueHazmat on May 10, 2007, 07:57:01 AM
Ceduna .. They have a pretty big complex...

Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: car31 on May 10, 2007, 10:32:51 AM
A lot of these stations are so big because they are joint SES facilities, question was which is the biggest CFS station. This being the case it would rule out places like Kingston, Ceduna etc.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Zippy on May 10, 2007, 10:44:18 AM
Heres another Question....Which station can hold the most appliances??? and not necessarily by count of truck bays....
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: fireblade on May 10, 2007, 05:51:45 PM
Next question, who has the best looking largest CFS station as Salisbury's looks horrible as its an old crash repair place. Sort of fits right in with the whole northern pay out thing.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Camo on May 10, 2007, 07:32:52 PM
i like the naracoorte, happy valley, meningie style of station with the brick frontage
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: fireblade on May 10, 2007, 11:12:47 PM
I'm not to worry what they look on the outside, can look like a big tin shed but as long as CFS fits out the stations with decent facilities. The CFS has had budget struggles just maintaining what they have taken over since ESAU came along. I don't think the State Government bean counters realised how big the service was with its infrastructure that they would be relieving councils from.

I wonder how some station's that struggled before the change if they are better of now?

I know some stations that belonged to a decent size council and the only brigade in that council zone feel that they are slightly worse of now with the god in the coffers.

Just something to throw in the mix! :wink:

Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: fireblade on May 10, 2007, 11:14:33 PM
GOLD IN THE COFFERS!!
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: bajdas on May 11, 2007, 08:39:02 PM
I'm not to worry what they look on the outside, can look like a big tin shed but as long as CFS fits out the stations with decent facilities. The CFS has had budget struggles just maintaining what they have taken over since ESAU came along. I don't think the State Government bean counters realised how big the service was with its infrastructure that they would be relieving councils from.

I wonder how some station's that struggled before the change if they are better of now?

I know some stations that belonged to a decent size council and the only brigade in that council zone feel that they are slightly worse of now with the god in the coffers.

Just something to throw in the mix! :wink:

SES have the same issues, Especially in the metropolitan Adelaide area.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 24P on May 11, 2007, 08:50:01 PM
Next question, who has the best looking largest CFS station as Salisbury's looks horrible as its an old crash repair place. Sort of fits right in with the whole northern pay out thing.
Mate you're a tool you say Salisburys station looks horrible but in your next post you say it doesnt matter what they look like on the outside. Do you read your posts?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: calspec on May 11, 2007, 09:16:45 PM
i like the naracoorte, happy valley, meningie style of station with the brick frontage

 :-D

May look nice, but not all that practical when it comes to modifications to suit the larger modern appliances.  Mega dollars, just to add a couple of feet on the front.  Almost as much as building an entire colourbond station.

Salisbury's may not be the prettiest, but I bet there's a shite load more room inside it.

I agree, though, the brick facade looks good, just wish there was more for-thought put into it.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: fireblade on May 12, 2007, 08:04:58 PM
Hey 24P,

You missed my point a shed looks fine if its new and painted as does a brick building. Plus its fitted out nicely in the inside which i was adding is more important.

Salisbury should have remained a crash repair business as its right in the middle of MFS and costs Para Group/ Region 2 a heap in rent as CFS dont own it.

That should get you fired up!
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: uniden on May 12, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Well CFS decided to go down the path of renting and not building new. So you cant really blame the brigade for that decision can you. They have just rolled with the punches and remained as a strong brigade despite people like you mocking them.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: car31 on May 12, 2007, 10:32:32 PM
I would take salisbury station over some of these new sheds being built any day. It has a good location, great facilities and has plenty of room for equipment and even group resources. I would suggest that para group arnt wasting any money on the rent as it houses a brigade doing on average 350-400 jobs a year as well as storing group resources such as appliance's, parts etc.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 5271rescue on May 13, 2007, 08:19:12 AM
Well if they like the station who cares what we think,sure it looks funny from the outside and I guess one day i will get to see the inside of the station,would like to see flashing lights out the front so the public know that the brigade is turning out of that station.....
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: SA Firey on May 13, 2007, 11:21:40 AM
At the end of the day its not about how big or small our stations are, its about the quality of our service delivery to the community,and they dont care if its a red or white truckthat turns up. :wink:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: alphaone on May 13, 2007, 12:24:47 PM
At the end of the day its not about how big or small our stations are, its about the quality of our service delivery to the community,and they dont care if its a red or white truckthat turns up. :wink:

Well said Sa Firey. I agree with your statement. As one of my collegues who lives in my brigades response area said one day, "as long as there is some one there to help save my house if I need them, I dont give a damn if it is red or white trucks, paid or vollunteer."
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: RescueHazmat on May 13, 2007, 01:02:49 PM
Hey 24P,

You missed my point a shed looks fine if its new and painted as does a brick building. Plus its fitted out nicely in the inside which i was adding is more important.

Salisbury should have remained a crash repair business as its right in the middle of MFS and costs Para Group/ Region 2 a heap in rent as CFS dont own it.

That should get you fired up!

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Contradiction.. (Thanks to dictionary.com) (1)direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.

Fireblade
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Next question, who has the best looking largest CFS station as Salisbury's looks horrible as its an old crash repair place. Sort of fits right in with the whole northern pay out thing.


Fireblade
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I'm not to worry what they look on the outside...

That there, is a contradiction..

 8-)
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: TillerMan on May 14, 2007, 11:54:25 AM
Anyway i got bored halfway down the screen...

Mt barker can hold a few trucks.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Zippy on May 14, 2007, 11:58:43 AM
Found this photo on Ozfire, credit to "rouge rescue"...just thought it would show a good view of barker stations capability.

(http://www.ozfire.org/files/p7060021_450.jpg)

could probably fit 5-6 appliances me thinks.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: car31 on May 14, 2007, 12:03:58 PM
Always funny to see that photo of Barker station with a Red truck in the bay!! :wink:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 24P on May 20, 2007, 10:38:11 PM
Always funny to see that photo of Barker station with a Red truck in the bay!! :wink:
Some would say get used to it. But not for a while yet i think. :wink:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Mike on May 21, 2007, 07:24:15 PM
Keep things on track guys....

Have moved the related posts about MFS moving to Barker here:

http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php?topic=1294.0 (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php?topic=1294.0)
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Kenny on May 30, 2007, 10:35:40 PM
I would put forward a vote for salisbury. Has the capability of holding numerous trucks in the bay, plus more in the sheds to the rear of the station.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Stefan KIRKMOE on June 23, 2007, 12:34:14 AM
Burnside runs 5 vehicles plus a BA trailer.... :)
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: SA Firey on July 03, 2007, 10:52:47 PM
Bordertown would get a guernsey for another big station :wink:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 5271rescue on July 04, 2007, 08:25:36 PM
but SES take up 3.5 bays at bordertown station...
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: SA Firey on July 04, 2007, 08:49:08 PM
but SES take up 3.5 bays at bordertown station...

Aha then Naracoorte would be my next choice Bill :-D
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 04, 2007, 10:28:36 PM
As a standalone CFS station Goolwa is pretty big, not the biggest mind you.....
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 5271rescue on July 05, 2007, 06:51:55 PM
still got that boat in there Al????
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 05, 2007, 09:59:32 PM
Nah we told them to get rid of it so they put their troop carrieir in there but thats gotta go as soon as our group get the logistics vehicle
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: bajdas on July 07, 2007, 11:55:54 AM
I know this thread is re CFS only stations, BUT.....

Visited the new Clare headquarters for CFS and SES. This includes (I think) CFS Horrocks Group HQ. Very impressive.

They have very high roof, dual roller door sheds and a seperate single storey building at the back. The comms rooms have video monitoring on the sheds.

The helicopter landing field for the hospital is at the back of the new Headquarters.

The opening, I understand, is on 29th July.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Firey9119 on December 14, 2007, 07:22:29 PM
hey all to start will people bagging salisbury station put up or shut up

if you would like to see why we at salisbury like it feel free to contact me and ill see what i can do to get you in to see it,

at this time the station is marked out to house 6 trucks in the main bay on top of that in can house a number of cars in the buildings out the back another 2 maybe 3 trucks and store another 4 or so cars if parked correctly.

aswell as parking large number of cars outdoors behind a locked gate and about 3-4 cars out front
and dont forget the disable car park!!
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 6739264 on December 15, 2007, 06:30:16 AM
at this time the station is marked out to house 6 trucks in the main bay on top of that in can house a number of cars in the buildings out the back another 2 maybe 3 trucks and store another 4 or so cars if parked correctly.

But when are you ever going to need 6 White trucks to chase the Red ones?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: safireservice on December 15, 2007, 03:46:22 PM

But when are you ever going to need 6 White trucks to chase the Red ones?

You'd need them to support the red truck tribe cause they're so
under manned these days according to the union! Whaaaaaaaaaaa. :cry:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 6739264 on December 15, 2007, 03:49:44 PM

But when are you ever going to need 6 White trucks to chase the Red ones?

You'd need them to support the red truck tribe cause they're so
under manned these days according to the union! Whaaaaaaaaaaa. :cry:

Hmm you make a good point, minus the union bashing. WAAAAAAAAAAA :cry:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: rescue5271 on December 15, 2007, 04:05:55 PM
Millicent station is also large can get 5 appliance's in there and if needed a command car....
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Firey9119 on December 15, 2007, 07:22:17 PM

But when are you ever going to need 6 White trucks to chase the Red ones?


i never said we needed or had that many trucks all i said was that we could fit that many trucks

it is bullsh*t remarks like that that get peoples backs up

and for the record the is a number of calls that the red trucks chase the white trucks!!!!!!


[Edit: fixing quoting]
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: safireservice on December 16, 2007, 06:35:48 AM

Hmm you make a good point, minus the union bashing. WAAAAAAAAAAA :cry:
Didnt see any union bashing in my post, just stating what they had already said. Although the UFU are well know as CFS bashers?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: chook on December 16, 2007, 07:29:25 AM
Its not CFS bashing - it protecting its members :wink: Nationally they will put any point across that serves their purpose. Thats their job - if you guys all joined the UFU then they might leave you alone.
For the record, I didn't see it as UFU bashing either.
cheers
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 6739264 on December 16, 2007, 07:29:40 AM

But when are you ever going to need 6 White trucks to chase the Red ones?


i never said we needed or had that many trucks all i said was that we could fit that many trucks

it is bullsh*t remarks like that that get peoples backs up

and for the record the is a number of calls that the red trucks chase the white trucks!!!!!!


[Edit: fixing quoting]

*hug*

Calm down champ :)
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 16, 2007, 08:06:59 AM

But when are you ever going to need 6 White trucks to chase the Red ones?


i never said we needed or had that many trucks all i said was that we could fit that many trucks

it is bullsh*t remarks like that that get peoples backs up

and for the record the is a number of calls that the red trucks chase the white trucks!!!!!!


[Edit: fixing quoting]

Talk about taking the bait!
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Master of Disaster on December 16, 2007, 09:06:59 PM
Who cares if the CFS chase the MFS or how many calls they do a year, oh my station is bigger then yours! :| I don't think the public gives a scheiße who comes to their need. Whats with the bagging of other cfs brigades? Just stupid :roll:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: chook on December 17, 2007, 05:56:24 AM
Totally agree - include other sevices in that (just for the record we can fit four large & four QAV's in our shed :-D)
cheers
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: SA Firey on December 17, 2007, 09:19:10 PM
There are many large stations around the state Ceduna is another one, and also Bordertown,Port Elliot etc
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Sarge on January 14, 2008, 11:09:08 PM
Are we talking surface area only or dose height come into the equation, I only ask because Owen station is big enough to house 3 large appliances yet tall enough to stack two large appliances on top of each other.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 15, 2008, 01:36:42 PM
when the project is finished all going well we will be able to fit three rescue trucks in the shed with two command cars then in the second shed if it gets built we will be able to have the two floats and three trailers plus another truck and still have space for our RCR training pad and a few other training areas 
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: FireyF on May 18, 2008, 09:46:21 PM
stirling station is quite large it has 5 bays and is getting extended eventually
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 6739264 on June 15, 2008, 08:06:15 AM
I hear they are getting a second storey to house the group base, getting a driveway through the rear to facilitate a drive through station, as well as extending out two more bays to allow for group cars/imt.

Confirm/Deny?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: safireservice on June 15, 2008, 10:43:00 AM
I hear they are getting a second storey to house the group base, getting a driveway through the rear to facilitate a drive through station, as well as extending out two more bays to allow for group cars/imt.

Confirm/Deny?
Or is all that for it to be ready when the MFS take over the area?  :-D :-D :wink:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: uniden on June 15, 2008, 01:03:46 PM
Stirling district and population cant really grow. There are very strict guidelines there for building new dwellings/developments etc. It is pretty much as big as it is going to get. Cant ever see MFS popping up there.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Cameron Yelland on June 15, 2008, 01:10:06 PM
CFS apply fairly significant restrictions on 2 story buildings?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: SA Firey on June 15, 2008, 09:26:37 PM
CFS apply fairly significant restrictions on 2 story buildings?

Yeah you cant have a fire pole :-P
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 6739264 on June 16, 2008, 11:44:03 AM
CFS apply fairly significant restrictions on 2 story buildings?

Yeah you cant have a fire pole :-P

Au contraire! To avoid OH&S issues, poles will be installed! Oddly enough there are issues with stairs and firemen rushing down them. Workcover ain't happy about it!

Can't wait to see some members of this site in real life. How are you in an emergency service with the socail abilities of a brick?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: CFS_Firey on June 16, 2008, 03:41:53 PM
I hear they are getting a second storey to house the group base, getting a driveway through the rear to facilitate a drive through station, as well as extending out two more bays to allow for group cars/imt.

Confirm/Deny?

Confirm.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: K55 on June 16, 2008, 05:39:57 PM
Elaborate.
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: CFS_Firey on June 16, 2008, 05:44:25 PM
Sorry, that was a typo. Should have read "Deny".  (The keys are all right next to each other).
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 6739264 on June 17, 2008, 04:51:02 AM
Elaborate.

Although in it's early stages, the submission put forward that I heard about was to swing the station station around through 90 degrees so that the current station building area becomes where the future engine bays would be. The bays would be extended from 5 to 7 to be able to accommodate group cars etc etc. A second storey would then be built above the engine bays to house brigade and group facilities.

To allow for drive through access, the small lane way next to the old regional base would be paved, and renovated allowing trucks and cars to drive through and access parking at the rear of the station and the engine bays.

The Helicopter landing area at the rear of the station would be renovated from its current state to a more modern setup to allow for far better patient transfer abilities.

By the time the submission gets approval, a red paint scheme may or may not apply!
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: pumprescue on June 17, 2008, 10:36:07 AM
Good luck with that one Stirling, did they happen to mention the century this is planned for ?
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: jaff on June 17, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
Numbers,just to add to your brief overview of the updated plans for the proposed modifications to Stirling station. As I understand it ,the management commitee after reveiwing a large number of emergency organisations around the world , with mind to the village/community sensitivities of the Stirling area (see Stirling shopping center development behind the hotel) have short listed two facades that would fit in . The first design keeps the original facade in place,that is hooked up to their alerts/pager system ,in an emergency the facade lowers to the ground, allowing immediate access for responding appliances,one outstanding feature of this design is the fire pole ,once the vehicles have left the station,the facade, raises back into place,keeping the village feel of the town as per the request of the community.The design was by an American Bruce Wayne, for an emergency organisation who,s need for discretion was paramount.

The second design, my personal favorite, allows the site to be completely redeveloped by the brigade, with a large two storey residential development,complete with pool, in place of the station. This is a win/win for the service as the tenants would be paying a rent linked to CPI and an income for a ever increasing budget blowout would be generated and the development would definately be accepted by a cynical friends of Stirling action group. This design also is linked into the alerts/pager system, whereby once the "bells" drop , a entrance below the pool is exposed by the sliding of the pool into a covered housing,allowing easy egress for the selected appliances stored in a pod/racking system. Although this design sounds spaceage(Alans domain),it has been in operation in an island off the coast of America or England ,not sure which one ,for some 40 years now and hasn't failed them once. The design by once again an American, Gordon Tracy is edgy but workable, perhaps the only downside is for anyone swimming in the pool when the "bells" drop but Im sure this could be overcome.
Either way it turns out it will be a large step forward for the brigade.


To the Batcave!!! or Thunderbirds are go!!! :-D

Cheers Jaff
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: 6739264 on June 17, 2008, 01:51:42 PM
Jaff! You must have friends in high places or are just being plain silly! I had tried to pioneer an underground station setup where the entire current site was redeveloped, as per the residential scheme you propose, yet the entry/exit point for the station is the roundabout. Its a central location allowing good access to all points of the district and causing minimal traffic disruption.

Where were you and I when the strategic building planning committee was formed?! Call for a parliamentary inquiry I say!
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: bajdas on June 17, 2008, 06:10:40 PM
But this will never happen...the Thunderbirds concept provides Rescue services around the world, so one station should cover South Australia easily... now everyone would get their nose out of joint when aircraft land in before they can get the doors open..     :evil:    :lol:

...or is that what the new helicopter is going to be used for in summer...  :evil:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Army_emergency_responder on June 09, 2009, 08:37:30 PM
Station 20 is the biggest lol
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Chinny on June 11, 2009, 05:34:40 PM
HAHA that is funny :roll:
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on June 11, 2009, 09:43:14 PM
Does the new gambier base count as a station  :? :-P
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: Gungellan34 on July 07, 2009, 04:09:53 PM
or is that Bob's Base with the B.W.C (Bob's Water Carrier) parked in it! LOL
Title: Re: Biggest Station?
Post by: rescue5271 on July 07, 2009, 04:44:56 PM
LOLOLOO, i am sure BOB with get a laugh out of that one....NOT....