SA Firefighter
General Discussion => SA Firefighter General => Topic started by: mattb on October 22, 2005, 07:55:05 PM
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Hi all, just wanted to let you know that we now have a online scanner stream running in South Australia. At the moment it is scanning a number of SAGRN sites and a couple of conventional frequencies, most of the traffic you will hear is Ambos, MFS & CFS with a bit of the SES, St John and Multi Agency talkgroups in there as well.
It is still in test mode at the moment but will be generally 24/7 unless it crashes for some reason.
Log onto http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/sa-scan.asx to have a listen.
Also have a look at http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/scanner.htm for all the info on scanning in South Australia.
Cheers
Matt :-D
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How did you get the MFS Dispatch ID matt as im looking to programming my 780xlt to recieve the Mount Gambier MFS Dispatch ID as well as all other South East emergency service ID's
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Robert, all the talkgroup ID's can be found on my website at http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/scanner.htm just click on "Government Radio Network" and then "Talkgroups".
The MFS in the south east use id 16272 '195 MFS SOUTH EAST'.
Regards
Matt
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Nicely done Matt... Impressive site :-o ...looks like the fruit of a lot of hard work....
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Nice work matt. :-)
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i have acquired the ID'S from your site matt and have read the info on how to program a trunk tracker 3 to correctly scan the SAGRN but do i place the data frequencies in first or the voice channels
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Robert, enter the data channel first and then the voice channels. The voice channels can then all be locked out providing you have set them all as Motorola trunking channels.
If you have a standard serial cable then I suggest you try programming it with some software, it will make your life a lot easier.
AFS780 is pretty easy to use and is free, it can be downloaded from http://www.barghis.com/bc780xlt/index.htm
Matt
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I owe you a big thanks matt for your scanner programming advice no sooner had i placed all of my ID'S and the data channels into my scanner and started trunking CFS State Opps 111 came on air :-D
I am planning to put some more voice channels and ID's on my scanner later by the way do you know which multi agency/mutual aid talk group would be used in the South East during a major emergency or is that something i have to find out
Thanks once again for your help as now i dont have to listen to SAPOL digital transmissions
Robert
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Talkgroup 017 is reserved for making contact with the SAPOL communications centre for requesting a multi agency talkgroup, you sometimes hear stuff on that one.
Talkgroup 020 is reserved for helicopter liaison, that gets used a lot for landings in rural areas.
As for a multi agency talkgroup for operations in the South East, it could be either 027, 030 or 031 but sometimes they don't follow the rules when allocating them and give out ones that you wouldn't normally expect.
If your scanner has the room put them all in, you should have 100 talkgroups per bank to play with, if you run out of space then use another bank with the same GRN site in it.
mb
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Their is a slight delay, but that would be due to the live stream... All in all a good job Matt. !! (Pity about all the SAAS dribble... :P )
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What CFS talk groups are you monitoring? I take it all the RHQ channels, and a few group talk groups?
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Hi Matt,
Makes very interesting listening. Good job.
I have a question. We had a job on within our group at the same time i was listening to the stream for the first time. I heard SHQ telling an appliance to go to our group talkgroup (thats how i knew the job was on) but i couldn't hear anything from the people on scene. Does the scanner only pick up stronger signals ie Adelaide area.
Cheers.
Adam
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Are the Multi Agency Talkgroups on the normal SAGRN frequencies or SAGRN Simplex frequencies
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Might not have the local stuff in it, also, if it scans again if people don't talk quick enough you will miss a lot.
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The scanner is setup to monitor all Regional and State HQ talkgroups as well as all group talkgroups in Region 1 & 2, it will also pickup any other CFS talkgroups if someone affiliates through the Mt Lofty site (i.e if someone in Adelaide turns a radio onto talkgroup 200 and it connects to the Mt Lofty site then you will hear that on the scanner).
During summer or when there are interesting incidents going on the programming may change a little.
Robert, the multi agency talkgroups operate on the normal SAGRN frequencies, you just need to have a radio connected to a site that you are listening to on one of those talkgroups to be able to hear them. The multi agency simplex channels are rarely used (anyone know if they still use them at hazmat jobs).
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With your vast knowledge of scanner frequencies matt you should make a scanner book for South Australian scanner users
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Sorry for the double post but can you monitor the SAGRN Paging Frequency 148.8125 in trunking mode or is software needed for this kind of thing
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Robert, to monitor paging you need some software, try downloading PDW from http://www.p2000-flex.tk/ it takes a bit of mucking around to get it working but once it's going it works well.
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This is great and I would listen to it every time I was online if Region 3 was included :-)
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Hey matt is there a chance you'll produce a book of South Australia scanner frequencies for SA scanner users in the near future as the ones i currently have are out of date
I would be one of the first buyers if the book comes on sale in the South East
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I would also purchas one if it included R3. I only have a few for our region need more info :-D
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Would you have your stuff on CD disk as I would also love to purchas one of them.
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I would purchase both the book and CD if it had Region 5 frequencies,talkgroups etc...etc as well as freqeucnies for private forestry companies in the South East and media services too
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There ya go matt... make a bit of money.
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Gooooo Matty Go !! Gooooo Matyy Go !!
:lol:
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Hey Matt,
Thanks For The Scanner, I Was Looking At Setting One Up, However Never Got Around To It.
Currently Trying To Stream From It Now, However I Don't Believe That It Is Working.
Sorry My Mistake, The ASF File Was Attempting To Open In WinAmp.
I Seem To Be Getting Alot Of Static Though.
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Currently Trying To Stream From It Now, However I Don't Believe That It Is Working.
You need the latest Windows Media Player... (Or at least, if you have the latest, it works)
Latest media Player: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/default.aspx
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Glad to hear that the information provided on the website http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/scanner.htm has been usefull.
At this stage the website will be were all my info goes, I may expand the agencies covered a little bit if there is a large call for people wanting info on specific services. I think a book is a bit out of the question though, I just don't have the time at the moment.
Remember that if you have some specific questions or frequencies that you are after that we have the SA-Scan yahoo group that has nearly 350 people on it, normally someone there will answer any questions you have quite quickly - you can find it at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SA-Scan/
The stream was down yesterday whilst it was moved to a dedicated PC, hopefully now the feed will be up most of the time (can't guarantee it though).
It would be great to see a few more streams in different areas of the state, we currently have the Barossa to Kangaroo Island covered, just need a few others now. If you need a hand setting one up let me know.
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being new to this whole area, can you tell me, what is a data slicer? is this something that geos from the interface port on my scanner (ubc780XLT) to the comport on my pc????
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Hey Steveg are you trying to get your ubc 780xlt scanner to properly trunk the SAGRN or something else
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Thanks Matt,
I Will Give It A Go When I Get Home From Work.
What Region Is The Scanner In? Also What Tower Is It Set To As Its Primary (Lofty Tower)?
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I have got the scanner working fin ewith the GRN.
I am under the impression that to recieve and decode GRN paging i need to use this data slicer thing?? :?
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Got Home Again & The Scanner Isn't Work Again. Are You Sure Its 24/?
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The scanner has been offline a bit this week, I moved it over to a dedicated PC on Monday and now it is crashing sometime during the day when I am at work.
I will investigate the problem over the weekend and hopefully get it back 24/7.
It's currently working fine at the moment with 8 people connected.
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Thanks Matt,
I Was Wondering What Was Going On, Cause I Get Home Every Day & Go To Stick It On & Its Offline.
Thanks.
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Scanner seems to be working well - I like the AFS quick view! :-D
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It's good to hear the scanner back online again Matt.. while listening to it i noticed S.L.S.A CH 1 come up on the screen is this SAPOL not using their usual Digital radios or is it another service
If it is SAPOL would it be possible that SAPOL South East is using Analogue mode instead of Digital mode as well :-)
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Probably surf lifesaving.
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It is Surf Life Saving Australia, they use two main channels that are both patched together and have a third that is occasionally used by the rescue boats and helicopter.
As far as SAPOL go, every single talkgroup they use is digitally encrypted. The new UBCD396T trunking scanner which is an absolutely beautiful scanner won't work on SAPOL either, there is really no way you can hear them now.
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Would i be able to hear SLSA & Sea Rescue GRN TG's down here in the South East as Port MacDonnell & Robe have Volunteer Coast Guard Services that probably utilize the SAGRN...if this is possible Matt what SLSA/Sea Rescue talkgroups would they use
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Robert, I am unaware if the AVCG crews in the Port Macdonnell and Robe areas use the GRN. There is a VHF marine repeater at Robe however that I'm sure you will hear them on, try 161.725mhz. Have a look at http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/marine.htm for more info.
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I Was Listening On The Week End & Heard S.L.S.A Talking To The New Chopper, They Were Chasing A Shark Out To Sea.
Yes It Would Be Good If We Could Get SAPOL On The Scanner, However From What I Have Heard Your Need A Really Expensive Scanner.
The Scanner Appears To Be Up More Regulaur Now Did You Fix The Issue With The Box Crashing?
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Yes It Would Be Good If We Could Get SAPOL On The Scanner, However From What I Have Heard Your Need A Really Expensive Scanner.
I've heard its illigal to listen to Police anyway... can anyone confirm this?
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Yes CFS_firey even when SAPOL were on VHF long before GRN was even thought of it was very much illegal for bikie gangs,drink drivers, dope plant growers and home invaders to monitor SAPOL transmissions
However SAPOL didn't have a problem emergency service volunteers like myself monitoring their VHF transmissions because there were numerous occasions during the fire season/summer where Police officers were first on scene of a fire and radioed for CFS response
I can refer back to the Claywells fire just outside of Millicent during the 1997-1998 fire season i think it was..... anyway on that day i was monitoring SAPOL transmissions and heard that they were chasing after the fire to try and block off a road but couldn't keep up with it because the fire was moving too fast
On hearing about this fire i told my parents even before the pager sounded
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It was always my understanding that it was not illegal to use a scanner...... only to act on the information gained from it. No matter what service.......
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It was always my understanding that it was not illegal to use a scanner...... only to act on the information gained from it. No matter what service.......
Mike That Is What I Have Always Heard As Well.
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Can anyone tell me where i can locate the CFS New VHF Channels/Frequencies that the South East CFS Divisions use :-)
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This Is Where I Would Expect Them To Be: http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/cfsfreq.htm However We Just Recently Changed VHF Channels & It Hasn't Been Updated, So At This Stage I Am Not Sure.
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The frequencies are the same, so if you know the new channels, you can use mattb's list to get the frequencies. There is a double sided A4 sheet floating around with all the new channel allocations... I'll have a look for it... What specific groups are you after?
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Im looking for Wattle Range,Mount Gambier,Lucindale,Naracoorte and Robe Division New VHF Fire Ground Channels CFS_FIREY as the list i had was thrown out and i need another list with the same channels so i can program them into my secondary base scanner
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These are the VHF channell allocations, i have no idea what the frequencies are as i am not up with that kind of thing... btw eys i do realise that mt gambier, robe and naracoorte are the same... :?
Wattle Range:
P: 36 S: 35 T: 23
Mount Gambier:
P: 58 S: 34 T: 57
Lucindale:
P: 44 S: 51 T: 56
Naracoorte:
P: 58 S: 34 T: 57
Robe:
P: 58 S: 34 T: 57
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thanks medevac. Frequencies can be found here http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/cfsfreq.htm as Cybercitizen said before. Copy the frequencies, ignore the groups he has written next to them ;)
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Is It Me Or Does The Scanner Appear To Be Playing Up?
I Tries To Connect, However Just Sits At Buffing. Tried On About 4 Computers All With The Same Issue?
Any One Else Having The Same Problem.
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It's holding up at buffering for me too, must be a connection or program fault, sure it will sort itself out.
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Yeah Its Been Like That For Over A 1 & A Half, Just Thought I Would Post So That Matt Knows.
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Hiya everyone now i know this thread has been dead since the 2nd or 3rd week of December 2005 so it's best we revive it :lol:
Today the 04/01/2006 received a phone call regarding my scanner programming service i have running for South East Scanner Users being it was my first customer i wasn't sure what kinda scanner he wanted programmed to listen to the GRN
SO i gathered all my notes and instructions together and waited for his arrival to drop off the scanner programming after this guy arrived it turns out he had the newer trunk tracker 3 scanner UBCT8 so all i have to do now is reprogram it with SAGRN frequencies/TG's for him to listen to
I'm hoping this customer is a sign of things to come for my business... so if any of you vollies who are members of the South East CFS brigades want your scanners programmed to trunk the GRN I'll be more than happy to do it for you
Wether it involves me coming to your home,property or worksite or you dropping the scanner off at my home for programming it doesnt bother me at all im gonna make sure you enjoy scanner listening without the interference of SAPOL digital
My home number if you want to contact me about this is: 08 87 393275
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Good luck with your business Robert34... you obviously have much more patience than me :P
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I can tell you this CFS_FIREY it didn't happen overnight i had to look at various notes, read instruction manuals and listen to the SA Scanner on line scanner to get a good understanding of how to setup my 780 to trunk
This took alot of practice and for some reason after programming my 780 i had this idea of programming other volunteers scanners to trunk the SAGRN :-)
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I Might Suggest Not Posting Your Mobile Number On A Public Forum, Perhaps Provide An Email Address.
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I Might Suggest Not Posting Your Mobile Number On A Public Forum, Perhaps Provide An Email Address.
He posted his home number, not mobile... I personally think its safer to post a phone number than an email address, Spam bots don't search for phone numbers, but they like email addresses :P
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Ha Ha It Was A Long Day & A Late Night, I Meant Phone Number, Not Mobile Number.
Its Upto The Admin On The Forums, However The Ones That I Admin, We Remove Phone Numbers.
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Meh.
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This thread is about an online GRN scanner - let's try and keep it on topic :-)
RE Phone Numbers if you post your own that's a question for you. If you post someone else's that's probably against some privacy law and will be removed.
Cheers :-D
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Hi guys, I know a few people on here often use the online SAGRN scanner at http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/scanner.htm to keep an ear on whats going on.
Lately you have probably found that it has been offline more often than it's be avaiable, that's because it is currently running on a PC that is trying to do too much work and frequently spits the dummy and crashes. Unfortunately the software running the stream and scanner interface is very processor hungry and requires a fair bit of muscle to keep running smoothly.
Unless someone wants to donate a 2ghz machine with about 512 meg of ram then it's going to be a case of try it and see, you may get on you may not - I will try and keep it running as long as I can but there are no guarantees. I can tell you that it will probably be unavailable between about 2100 and 2200 each night whilst that machine does other tasks.
Cheers
mb :-D
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Thanks Matt - its a great service and we appreciate the time and effort you put in to doing it for one and all :-D :-D :-D
Mmmm .... maybe the winner of the election could provide the needed hardware as a service to the community :wink:
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mattb, this looks freaking awesome. i haven't tried it yet because i'm still at school, but believe me, its getting put on when i get home! next challenge... see if my crappy dial up will let me listen
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Does that pick up MFS, CFS and SAAS or is it just CFS. All IM getting is SAAS
Kinda hard to pick up what theyre saying
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The SA-Scan online scanner is now scanning SA-GRN sites on the Fleurieu peninsula and around the Mt Lofty ranges.
You can expect to hear radio traffic from the S.A. Ambulance, Country Fire Service, Metropolitan Fire Service, State Emergency Service, St John Ambulance as well as the Multi Agency talkgroups. Occasionally the scanner will be operating in 'trunk search' mode in which case you will hear all other agencies that use the SA-GRN.
Maybe I should read it al first, that explains why its all SAAS Sth Noarlunga
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mattb, this looks freaking awesome. i haven't tried it yet because i'm still at school, but believe me, its getting put on when i get home! next challenge... see if my crappy dial up will let me listen
The stream is setup so it should be quite useable on dial up, the only time you might have trouble is when it is extremely busy, then you will get a lot of buffering.
Does that pick up MFS, CFS and SAAS or is it just CFS. All IM getting is SAAS
Yes it will pickup the MFS, CFS and SES stuff, it's just been very quiet CFS and SES wise lately.
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Hey matt,ask the cfs for an old PC,they always change them over ....I like the GRN scanner site its great so lets help matt keep it going....
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Hey matt,ask the cfs for an old PC,they always change them over...
Hehe, good luck getting a 2ghz machine out of CFS...
Matt, do you need a whole new rig, or do you have a current system you could upgrade?
According to http://www.staticice.com.au/ you can get a 2.6Ghz Celeron and a 512MB stick of DDR400 RAM for ~$170... if thats all you need, I'm sure we could get that in donations :)
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is there a way to get MFS or CFS through it or does it just come on. It is all SAAS.
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MFS and CFS come on when they talk, you don't have to do anything... SAAS just seem much busier than the fire services...
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Got something from MFS about a k32-2 and something to do with a nursng home. been using the "track skip" buttons on media player thinking it does something :-P SAAS sure do talk a lot! Woulda thouht there'd be more MFS activity though or CFS.
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K32 is for an alarm and the -2 is the status of the the alarm.
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Must be something big going down in Noarlunga, Adelaide 205 has been called I think, kinda hard to understand
But wonder why theyre talkin bout this beast
(http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/photos/samfs-20-205.jpg)
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Glad to hear that the online scanner is of use to you guys. For those so inclined I have now added the option of making a donation from the website using Paypal. I'm also open to thoughts of having a sponsorship or advertising arrangement.
Must be something big going down in Noarlunga, Adelaide 205 has been called I think, kinda hard to understand
The Bronto's respond to fixed alarms in A class buildings and some other specific premises, it's not unusual to see them responding to jobs in the burbs every day.
You were hearing them on the Noarlunga site because a radio nearby to that site was turned on and monitoring MFS talkgroup 150, just because you heard them on that site doesn't mean they are in the area. You could technically hear someone in Ceduna coming through that site (or any other sites).
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Any chance of getting any other regions on to the scanner or does that take up more room than you've got???
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At the moment the scanner is basically covering all of the sites I can reliably pick up.
When good conditions prevail I can hear a number of sites on the West Coast and K.I. and the scanner will automatically scan those as well, but normally they are out of my reach. Even the Adelaide site is a bit dodgy from here.
Most of the CFS, MFS, SES and SAAS talkgroups that are regularly used are already programmed in, as far as I can tell there is not much more emergency service traffic that is available to me.
What we really need is a couple more online scanners setup around the state, that would cover things nicely.
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Matt do you run the scanner itself off an external antenna? If so what sort. Thanks
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It is currently running on a Diamond Discone, although sometimes I use a UHF Yagi or a UHF CB 6db vertical.
The Discone is best for VHF and UHF stuff, it has an omnidirectional pattern and can be used to transmit on many VHF and UHF frequencies as well. This gives you an idea of some of the Discone specs http://www.ozgear.com.au/Diamond/dseries.htm
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Hey everyone sorry i havent been online for the last couple of weeks as i needed to get a dialup modem put in my computer so i could have free dodo dialup to use until my DSL is hooked up
My trunk tracker 3 scanner is fitted very snuggly in its vehicle mounting bracket which is mounted under my overhead kitchen cupboards on the lower level where im able to see who is transmitting
As for the antenna im using a UHF CB 6db base antenna mounted on a mounting bracket which is attached to a small piece of pine decking thats is affixed to the house face boards... the antenna base lead is led through the window and fitted up to the antenna output which is scanner antenna plug that replaced the CB screw on plug which was on there
Even though credit goes to my dad for the pine decking base mount and affixment of a scanner antenna plug on the base lead i did the whole antenna & base setup my self with out no help :-D
Im able to recieve signals crystal clear from all local data sites although i am still trying to locate the frequencies Kalangadoo Mill uses but that will take some time maybe i'll buy a long UHF whip antenna or one of those that you use Matt 8-)
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how much did that cost?
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It only cost between 20-25 bucks for the antenna and base lead altogether the other materials were laying around in my dads car shed so we improvised and put together a real good scanner antenna mount
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i meant the actual scanner. aren't they like $4000?
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More like a few hundred $$$
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i meant the actual scanner. aren't they like $4000?
haha.. For a gold plated one maybe...
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i meant the actual scanner. aren't they like $4000?
not for something like a uniden ubc780, the same as is sitting in your station probie_boy. They come up every so often on ebay for around $350.
PS. went by the Crafers chicken shop again last night, it's still shut with the same sign on the door saying it's for sale.
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PS. went by the Crafers chicken shop again last night, it's still shut with the same sign on the door saying it's for sale.
god damn it! there go our discounts!
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it works! awesome matt! :-D
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by the way matt, is this completely legal? i'm not sure due to ambos discussing patients and so on.
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It was always my understanding that it was not illegal to use a scanner...... only to act on the information gained from it. No matter what service.......
(Page 3) ;)
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ah mel where would i be without you!
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In a nutshell - Yes it is legal.
This has been tested by a number of agencies interstate and so far no one has been able to point to any specific legislation stating it is illegal to broadcast a scanner over the internet. All of the streams interstate are still going without any further hassles.
I know that some people have expressed concerns about the paging but I have never had any trouble with the online scanner.
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its only illegal if you get caught :-P
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Well its Fire Season again and for anyone wanting to hear the action,or acquire a Uniden UBC780XLT Trunktracker this thread is for you.
See ebay under Scanners for them they are coming up quite regularly
Happy listening guys and girls :-D