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SAMFS / Re: RECRUITMENT 2011
« on: April 19, 2011, 01:09:10 AM »
Just a curiosity here, why the obsession with the number of people failing/passing?
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Notwithstanding the above constraints, use of a Brigade siren shall be permitted at any time where circumstances require:
- Additional response of members, or
- Warning of danger to the community
It is necessary for brigade to meet with the community and discuss the use of siren, and agree on the use to meet the requirements of the SACFS and the community. It is encouraged these meeting are held each year prior to the start of the fire danger [sic], so the use of sirens can be reviewed.
So how many true pumps in SACFS?, and who deserves to get one based on risk?
So sounds like CFS may have brought 2 new pumpers. So who will be the lucky brigade? Who can justify one??
Hmmmm don't know about 2, but the NZ is sounding on the cars....as for who gets it, think who has the biggest jallopy pumper right now.....
Further more, does anyone know of another order piggy backed of NSW for a type 2?
Will we see one in Aus before we see a Rosenbauer AT?
WHO KNOWS?!?!
Yes is the word.
1000 applicants!! what a joke!! Why did they have to go and make it easier to apply? they were already getting 300 plus applicants for potentially only 18 positions. surely that was enough. People are going to get rejected for the smallest things now.
8x8m Filler Hose Lengths
Boosting, or used there the hydrant is literally beside the truck.
2 Trays, EACH tray containing 2x30m 64mm hose, flaked in a "supply" lay (Total of 4 hoses)
Yep, enough hose to get you 120m away from the appliance, or dualheading of a hydrant up to 60m away. By the time you need more, more appliances would be on scene, with more hose. Where most (generally) urban appliances are, the next appliance would be on scene reasonably soon, most likely when the appliance is nearly about to change over from tank to mains water.
And using your suggestion of making non-specialist brigades, a specialist brigade by holding more than normal hose...the 2nd or 3rd appliance, would have the amount of hose to reach 3 or 4 hydrants away. Pseudo-Hoselayer appliances.
Meanwhile! 4WD appliances, should have 6 lengths of 64mm, to allow for a longer arrival time of further appliances.
6 x 38mm Delivery Hose.
2 lengths of 38mm per attack line. For two teams of two. 2 further lengths for an additional team or adding a length.
Of late I have found myself involved in discussions about appliances a bit. The frequent occurance is that people want to see Standardisation so it is it easier to work and you can always find equipment on other brigades appliances.
What do you think?
What level of standardisation do you want or not want? is it just that hoses are stored on the right had side or should we all have the same Trucks?
Should we take a leaf out of the MFS and FRNSW appliance style where they are much the same each year but do incorporate new technology and improvements?
some quick notes to start.
- Hose on the passenger/safe side.
- Only Four classes of appliaces: Urban, Rural, Light Rural and BWC.
Amount of Hose:
Urban: 8 Lengths of Filler Hose, 2 Trays (60m) of 64mm Collecting Hose, 6 Lengths of 38mm.
Rural: Very much the same as a 34P and 34, and with 6 lengths of 25mm
Light Rural: Pretty much a 14 with 6 lengths of 25mm. 1 Length 64 and 2 length 38.
- A Rule: stick to a standard, very much like the old Hino's, till it fails to work in its working environment, then and only then, create a new long term standard.
Wow...
Why would you not get ALL of the couplings changed over at once? Yes it might cost a little bit more, but isn't the point that you then have a system that you can do anything with?
My point exactly, we only have 2x10m lines for ours and if we dont get the pump done thats what we are limited to is those, bit if we get the pump done as well then if the need arises and i am sure it will one day we can run a single 20m line!!
Especially if you have the money for it why not get it done
The other issue we all have is have we jumped the gun by getting this done if CFS are looking into replacing all our RCR gear.....
:59:55 25-03-11 RCR equipment out of service from Sunday 0830 for approximate 2hrs. So don''t have a crash, in this time slot! Due to coupling change over. - CFS Waikerie Info
2hrs only took 45 mins to get ours done on station....
What exactly is AIRS IN & AIRS OUT?
The reports for attending a call IN your primary response area, or OUT of your primary response area. What used to be called Primary and Support.
Response area for what? This is not defined... Fire/Rescue/Hazmat areas are all so vastly different, and could all be counted as a Brigades "Primary" Response area.
If you actually bother to read the reference guide it does specify that "IN" is for jobs in your primary 'fire' area and "OUT" is for jobs in other brigades primary fire area. It does also state that IN/OUT is based on fire response area only, not RCR or HAZMAT responsibilities.
RCR/HAZMAT areas of responsibility have never been considered a brigades primary area in terms of reporting, so lets not stir the pot unnecessarily.
am I the only one that has an urge to grab those little cars, pull them backwards and let them go and then watch them race away?
Don't tell Arthur, he might need to go to Germany to investigate how to strip an already pathetic RCR kit, and install it into a Smart Car.
Hey new Chief, have you worked out how bad things are yet....
RCR is not the be all and end all of Rescue, contrary to what CFS would have us believe. But hey, I guess if we continue to downgrade our capability, then a station wagon with a combi tool and mini ram in the back will be fine. Ok, maybe without the ram. To keep costs down.
don't really need a station wagon..... A little Brumby Ute with 2 people would be fine (makes response numbers/defaults and driver availability better) - smaller carbon footprint too to be topically politically correct.
Thinking about the sort of gear that RCR vehicles carry,
and watching the way they work, I'm not sure a van is the
best place to start the build.
A 3T cab/chassis might be a better basis, with compartmented box.
All items directly accessible from exterior of the vehicle.
All 'heavies' on low-level slide-out trays, 'smalls' in labelled tubs.
Something like what this lot make. http://xl.com.au/index.php
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Every thing is pass/fail, if you can't do it - bad luck, no bending for anyone.
Except PAT 2...
And interview
You have misread my reply. As has been mentioned, some people seem to be asking questions that are answered on the SAMFS site!
So the SOP say.
1xRescue
1xTANKER (for fire cover)
But in the real world where the CFS is short of crews and drivers. A CFS rescue van is a waste of time. How many brigades default? So a rescue appliance needs a pump(fire). It just make basic sense and could help save lives. How many times do rescue brigades respond with only 4 or 5 and 1 driver?
Yes other resources are responded often with delay.
Check the CFS pager site and listen to the scanner over the next few weeks. To see how many times crews default or have a slow response.
Does anyone have a photo of the Victorian rescue vans?? are they RCR vans or just CABA refill vans??? CFA dont have these van's and wont as they like their big rescue trucks and they have more gear on them than we do....