Do you mean comms operators in brigades of comcen officers?
If you mean comcen operators...i don't agree that a bunch of vollies should comment on the response and notification times of different agencies when they have NO real life experience in a comcen! It works two ways.
Generally speaking most of the calls that have entrapments that CFS aren't called to have more to do with people in the incident not giving people information and sometimes when it comes to country jobs it can take longer than 5 minutes to process a call when one person is taking a call and another person dispatches the call to the correct location and by the correct means.
Maybe there is a reason that some country SAAS avoid some CFS people...I would rather be in an accident in the country and be in a bad way to only have SAAS rock up than to have some CFS brigade try to take a punt at how to give me adequate first aid while they are waiting for SAAS and me never being able to walk again or me ending up worse than if i was left alone, and i am not referring to all CFS brigades but i am sure we all know someone that we wouldn't want to turn up and an MVA they were involved in for safety's sake!
And yes i know at times it can work the other way with SAAS trying to pull a person out with out rescue being on scene yet but that is a different topic all together.
Well I think you missed the point because what you said about the comcen is what I said about the comcen, and first aid is better than no aid. The gaps we are talking about are not 5 minutes thats acceptable the gaps we are talking about are a minimum of 15 minutes, and i'm not talking about having this implemented in our current system the call taker must have a button on his screen that says VA with a severity number assigned to based on the limited picture that can be painted, they push this button and the appropriate incidents are logged in the various agencies databases and the responses go out...you think not?. Question do you view your fellow CFS/SES volunteers as incompetent because I think that a professional such as a CFS/SES volunteer can go up to a victim and say "everything is okay the ambulance is on its way, stay with me don't fall asleep stay with me..." they're bleeding profusely out the leg you apply pressure..you do first aid...if these professional volunteers are not there to support them and the people on scene don't have a level head and are freaking out, they aren't going to be providing any support, the CFS/SES can provide that support, until SAAS arrives and we hand them over (except for the person who made first contact because the patient is now attached...well at least thats what I got taught) and I don't think that the CFS/SES volunteers would try and do the job of SAAS, I for one would not go poking and prodding, but I can get some information from them about where they are hurting what feels strange and if they pass out then I'm able to pass this information on to the Ambos.
And to the oh do you really want to be called to all the VA's i've addressed this a number of times. If I'm in a car accident and I'm stuck in the car theres no one around i'm passing in out of consciousness I manage to dial 000 and told them "...car accident..." **passes out** they trace the call, the ambulance comes and they wake me up I'm bleeding out, I'm trapped and the car is smoking, now if the ambos then respond fire/rescue odds are I'm going to sue the living crap out of the person responsible for the delay, for all sorts of reasons, damages loss of earnings, depression, anxiety, stress all that bull'. All because someone didn't want to risk stop calls. This line here the one we are weary to tread because of stop calls is the choice between our comfort and the comfort of the person who is the one off 1% odd statistic.. so is his/her life worth the comfort?
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