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General Discussion => SAMFS => Topic started by: Hazmat206 on January 21, 2009, 07:52:34 AM
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I noticed elizabeths original 331 wasn't online but an older scania was in its place, guessing 331 was being serviced. 2 days later, it had a f7 volvo in its bay and just yesterday it had the older,relieve pumper again. Does anyone know why the relief pumpers are being juggled around?
P.S, 332 was at the station on all occasions, so the difference in trucks wont have anything to do with a COQ's.
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meh...Just put the Water on the Fire....
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They probably broke it again taking it off road or something, they're good at that.
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I noticed Elizabeths original 331 wasn't online but an older scania was in its place, guessing 331 was being serviced. 2 days later, it had a f7 volvo in its bay and just yesterday it had the older,relieve pumper again. Does anyone know why the relief pumpers are being juggled around?
P.S, 332 was at the station on all occasions, so the difference in trucks wont have anything to do with a COQ's.
They are having the new MCT's fitted at present :wink:
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Glynde now have adelaides 201 pumper.
Why don't they just give them that new volvo sitting at the work shop instead of hand balling trucks all the time? FYI- Beulah parks was glyndes, and at one stage beulah parks was oakdens
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Station 20 has just recieved 2 new pumpers. A scania, which replaces 201's appliance which has gone to Glynde and a volvo which replaces 202's scania.
This is so stupid as St Marys & Salisbury have 12 year old appliances and Adelaide's 202 which was replaced with a brand new volvo was 7 years old.
Also, why don't they just give a new one to Glynde rather than giving them Adelaide's 3 year old 201 appliance and giving Adelaide a new one? :?
I'm not complaining about being in a new truck but seriously, there are other stations beside STATION 20 that require late model trucks!
But then again, it makes sense to do that so i guess that's why they did what they did! :-P
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But then again, it makes sense to do that so i guess that's why they did what they did! :-P
You might want to tiptoe a bit more gently HAZMAT 206... remember bosses have eyes everywhere, by all means criticise the decision, and offer a "preferable" idea... but never criticise the decision makers maybe they are just wasting time so they can put the new truck in the Seaford station when it is finally built and it wont be too thrashed...
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Is it not because 409 and 329 are being replaced by new 9's next year. The workload of appliances in 20 is a lot higher and it is good to move the trucks on to slow stations such as 22.
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Is it not because 409 and 329 are being replaced by new 9's next year. The workload of appliances in 20 is a lot higher and it is good to move the trucks on to slow stations such as 22.
yep ....it must be hell on the appliances going to all those alarm calls :evil:[/tic]
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Yeh, especially with no air-con and a smaller cabin!
Each appliance would be just as busy as each other.
For example, Gawler might not be as busy as 20 but it does longer distances.
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But long distance driving aren't the killer of the big Diesal's.. Its the quick starting, driving cold, stopping and starting in city streets, operating a max capacity for short distances and over short, regular intervals, that eventually kill these trucks.. Hence, starting in adelaide, then moving to 'slower' stations, so to speak, is a great idea..
206, you make mention or hint of being in town yourself.. Why not go upstairs and voice your complaints to the boss or the OCC? Im sure it would serve you better than to question it in here.
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Thank you, this info helps :wink:
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Pretty sure you will find that town is the busiest station, whilst they might not engage the pump to often those trucks get hammered. Also, the old 202 is already set up as a pump rescue, so why not send it to Elizabeth as 339, makes sense.
Aside from the fact that there will be a bazillion new pumps coming online soon.
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about time some of the 93M's went out in the lands of CFS :P
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Would trucks out Salisbury-Elizabeff way be the hardest worked pumps in the fleet?
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about time some of the 93M's went out in the lands of CFS :P
Yeah right theyd rather give them to Tonga than let the CFS have them.
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Would trucks out Salisbury-Elizabeff way be the hardest worked pumps in the fleet?
Each station has it's own characteristics:
Glen Osmond do alot of driving up the hills on the freeway-thus more strain on engine and brakes
Gawler do alot of travelling on the highway- alot of the time reaching 100km/h speeds
Eliz do alot of COQ's, they go to Gawler alot aswell as their populated area
Adelaide do alot of stop starting, but special appliances such as 206 and 205 can travel pretty far, 206 once went to peterborough and Port Augusta!
Christies downs i believe is one of the busiest stations, aswell as Eliz,Adel and Brooklyn Park
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Was actually talking about the pumps on the trucks, seeing as they do so many Domestic/Commercial fires and grass fires up that way as well
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Yeah, Eliz would be one of the hardest working pumps-alot of vehicle and rubbish fires so yeh, Eliz probanly is :wink:
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Brooklyn Park, busy, hahahaha :lol:
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They're busier than you think!
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I have a feeling Darren would probably be in the 'know', of which stations are the busiest..
You get that distinct sort of knowledge, when you turn them out and talk to them day & night..
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Or you just look at the statistics in the annual report. Dont need to be an expert to figure that out.
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Christies downs i believe is one of the busiest stations...
Only coz they get turned out to all our jobs... :evil: :roll:
and we all know that once it is up an running, seaford is by far going to be the busiest station...even busier than 20... :evil:
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Can't see that happening, Eliz are way out in front!
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Pretty sure you will find that town is the busiest station, whilst they might not engage the pump to often those trucks get hammered. Also, the old 202 is already set up as a pump rescue, so why not send it to Elizabeth as 339, makes sense.
Yes, good point, most RCR's in Elizabeth involve salisburys '9'any way, because of Eliz having 2 pumpers and no pump rescue, regardless if both trucks are in the station and the RCR is in 33's boundary.
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when elizabeth 339 comes online...Salisbury and Dalkeith CFS might be able to sleep more at night.
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Elizabeth have recieved their 339 today
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when elizabeth 339 comes online...Salisbury and Dalkeith CFS might be able to sleep more at night.
To do that means the "RCRD Green Book" has to be revised..not an overnight process :wink:
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Yeah they won't be sleeping much, they will just have 339 going along as well. Means 329 will get some more sleep.
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The green book simply says MFS as first rescue, in MFS metro areas so there is no change necesary.
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At times it appears that Stations are lumbered with second hand appliances i.e. 201 to Glynde, 202 to Elizabeth. Both these trucks are relatively new and it is not that they are being dumped at out stations but that sometimes new appllainces need to come on-line and the logical place to do this is Adelaide station. Two new appliances, one scania and one volvo to be run side by side as an evaluation for potential future purchasing. Sometimes the reasons the people up stairs do things are not so obvious. One must have a bit of confidence.
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Elizabeth have recieved their 339 today
so is that in addition to 331 and 332? or does it replace 332?
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Elizabeth have recieved their 339 today
so is that in addition to 331 and 332? or does it replace 332?
Replaced 332 :wink:
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Brooklyn Park, busy, hahahaha :lol:
Don't you laugh Darren... by far the busiest stations must be Largs, Port Adelaide or the Hill...
:wink:
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Don't forget Gawler
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What's happened to 332's truck, as it is only a couple years old?
Is it going to seaford?
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Not unless they send it away to be modified into a pump rescue as seaford will be a '9' truck.
On a side note will 339 have a winch put on the front to bring it into line with the others out there?
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i thought MFS gave up on winchs?
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Yeah they gave up on the winches, all the 9's will have tirfors.
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I can't understand why it took so long to get the 339 when it was already made up. They still haven't added a winch/tirfor, yet it still took about a month to prepare this appliance.
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Maybe it was a good oppurtunity to give it a overhaul and clean up before it went up there?
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I can't understand why it took so long to get the 339 when it was already made up. They still haven't added a winch/tirfor, yet it still took about a month to prepare this appliance.
Whats the rush 206? Elizabeth have never had a rescue before and still coped... The same number of appliances were still on the road. Take a little extra time and get the appliance up to spec properly before sending it out as the 9.
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They coped because they had 329 attending their RCR's. What happens if salisbury's area needed the pump rescue? The closest would of been woodville then adelaide. It has happened and you have to take all types of situations into consideration, and not think 'how often does this happen'.
Like i said alex, it was already made up as a '9', does it take a month to put ELIZABETH on the door and a few bits of equipment? :wink:
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Elizabeth have never had a rescue before and still coped...
I do believe Elizabeth have had a rescue in the past before it went to Salisbury.
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It wasn't gone that long, and yeah whats a few weeks in the scheme of things, they might have taken the chance to give the truck a good going over front to back, doesn't really matter, they have it now, and the world didn't come to an end in those weeks it took to get it on the run.
Before 329 came alone Elizabeth had 334, one of the F7 Volvo's.
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What happens if salisbury's area needed the pump rescue?
It's called change of quarters, doesn't just apply to pumps.
Ahh k, didnt realise there used to be a 334 back in the day.
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Alex,
There was some photos on ozfire of 334 back in the day.
joff
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Have Angle Park got 32's previous truck?
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Have Angle Park got 32's previous truck?
No ex 33's :wink:
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I forgot a 3, i meant 332 :wink: