SA Firefighter

It is the smartest thing to split your deliveries and supply lines, when you pull up to a job you can run hose from the side straight into the job and there is then no confusion as to where the hoses are going. It has been proven to be very successful in cfa and they do see a lot of flame.

I don;t think you have to worry to much numbers.

a) brigades like Burnside who can justify what they are getting. Due to a large population base and hence development have a hard enough time getting the money form their fund raising. so a brigade that does thirty calls probably wont have the ability to raise the money.

Let me know if i am wrong but doesn't burnside only have a very very small number of streets with houses on them actually in their primary area. Remember what you do with MFS does not and should not contribute to your appliance allocation. If they need an appliance of this sort in Burnside why did MFS not extend their boundary a few streets.

Well 3 fire services was meant to be a joke to point out there are 3 operating at the moment, what it should be is one fire service with 3 categories, fulltime urban, volunteer urban, volunteer rural.

Numbers that is so true...too all over the shop
My concerns are say for example factory fire in mount barker, on arrival going like stink with other factories under threat by CFS standards you go for a 3rd alarm B risk and get what a whole heap of rural trucks with no BA operators and could not pump to save themselves. Unfortunately the CFS does not have the response plans or vehicles to support this kind of job so i would be asking for specific appliances such as hahndorf, bridgewater, stirling pumpers with the addition of 203, 205 and possibly MFS pumps. You need to look at the job and because there is no CAD system to support the call just some guys in comms guessing who to send sometimes because they have no data from CFS regions you will need to ask for specific resources such as a skyjet or bronto to get the job done.

Why are you so worried doesn't your name say EX-SES member so you don't have to worry.

Plus you may find conbined services will just show where resources are not needed like berri, i think 3 red trucks is enough.

Mt Barker do not have RIV, it was asked for when the old rescue was taken away, RIV to be put on dennis at the time and now the 34P, region said not required....

Also regarding the Bridgewater fire, yes it is in a bad area, yes smoke showing, and yes the 2ND alarm is a good call...But do not send your whole group and a strike team when you arrive on scene to find it to be so so small. A good officer should be able to upgrade and downgrade and make the call when on scene, a good officer will also not drain the whole group and smaller stations like your upper sturts for no reason.

Another thing to look at if over a few weeks these same brigades get dragged out for mop up duty on these massive fires of 2 acres and under then the day the big one does happen a lot of bosses will say sorry mate you've left 3 times this week for nothing i need you here, or families going not this time dad we were going out, it will take it's toll on people that don't have secure government jobs or have families at home  waiting. Not saying vollies won't go to jobs but if you don't need them send them home or don't respond them at all. It is only January and a long fire season ahead so don't burn them out.

Mister teddy all i want to say is you fight the fire you have, not the one you may get...

One the worst days that fires can occur aircraft are often grounded and become useless, so they used them why they could, what ever happened to a fire being fought by fire trucks and ground crew, you have all become too dependent on the aircraft, one day there will be too many fires and what will you all do, say this is too big for us and go home. pull your heads in.

What makes it the nineties and what other CFS websites are out there that are more up to today's standards as you put it.

What should happen is the brigade is paged to a job type, address and who is going. Then when a brigade books on the road or rings MFS they get the further information, this may then prompt brigades to upgrade responses and if they are not mobile then go maybe i should send someone else. Pagers are only there to alert members of a firecall not to give them everything under the sun about the job, maybe we should go page to tone only pagers. You cannot tell me you would get the same amount of members turn out to a RCR just with an address or RCR-no entrapments spill only.

Hi guys

Just noticed today another Rescue which there seemed to be the same old long delay to get further help, someone from Onka Group might be able to fill in the gaps.

13:47:46 16-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 16/12/08 13:46,RESPOND RCR,BALHANNAH ,BALHANNAH MAP 0 0 0 TG140,BALHANNAH WOODSIDE RD OUTSIDE POST OFFIC,E 1 X TRAPPED,LOBE19 OAKB00 CFS Oakbank/Balhannah Response

13:53:13 16-12-08 LOBE: RESPOND LOBETHAL STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES CFS Lobethal Response

13:58:56 16-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 16/12/08 13:46,RESPOND RCR,BALHANNAH ,BALHANNAH MAP 0 0 0 TG140,BALHANNAH WOODSIDE RD OUTSIDE POST OFFICE X TRAPPED group rescue persons req CFS Onkaparinga RCR Info

Now i may be on the wrong path here but it seems if Lobethal are struggling at the 6 minute mark as a rescue resource time to get the next rescue on the road. How does this group respond extra operators from the group, do they respond in their private vehicles or do they repspond a fire appliance.

Remember if you standing there with no one cover your butt and send help. You can always stop a truck.

Mate i am not somewhat bitter as i already drive a red scania for a living probie. interesting 2 shots at the PAT 2, are they planning on you failing, shouldn't everyone be at their peak fitness to get in the job.

Correct me if i am wrong but they are not the first 36 as they are the somewhat "dregs" from the last intake so in fact are in the 90's, so once again instead of intaking a fresh batch of firefighters they are going for whats left over. I am thinking they should only get one shot at retesting for the pat 2 as they should already be up to that level of fitness. i know interstate services are having trouble with the "quality" of applicants in the later courses as in a normal situation they would have been cut from the group.

Is this to decide if they will will use the current pool for the first 09 course or intake again to fill those positions?