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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: February 17, 2010, 10:14:23 AM »

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I think what you are seeing is the new (informal) arrangement between Sturt, Lofty, Mawson (maybe) and Heyson (maybe) to rapidly turn out what they need and then worry about the formalities later.

Their base responds to the page on TG124 and then runs the incident including extra resources, its just a different way of operating......has fors and againsts, but it works for them, and I've always found them pretty on the ball to work with, or respond into their area.....so if its not broke, dont worry about it
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Worry about formalities later, what a royal commission,isn't the whole point of one CRD centre to eliminate people doing their own things, by turning out their own resources then no one knows what resources have been deployed or the status of brigade resources because it has not been dispatched and noted on the system? Imagine one day if there was multiple jobs on and they said let's respond stirling to another grass fire, oh sorry sturt group sent them out a while back, should Adelaide fire be made to ring the sturt base every time they turn a job out to make sure they haven;t already got it at something else?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: February 17, 2010, 05:20:21 AM »
03:49:12 17-02-10 SGB: STIRLING CORO AND CHERRY RESPOND INC009 GRASS FIRE,UPPER STURT RD,HAWTHORNDENE MAP 155 D 1 TG146,OPPOSITE GOLF CLUB RESPONDING WITH BLACKWOOD AND UPPER STURT ASSETS UNDER THREAT *CFSRES: 3:46:32 AM CFS Cherry Gardens Response

04:00:58 17-02-10 SGB: LOFTY TANKER RESPOND INC009 GRASS FIRE,UPPER STURT RD, UPPER STURT MAP 155 D 1 TG146, CORNER OF FOOTS HILL RD *CFSRES: 3:58:21 AM CFS Bradbury Response


Why is it that Sturt group just cannot follow procedure like every one else...SGB lives on...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Time for action
« on: January 14, 2010, 08:09:12 PM »
So are the staff involved in pushing through their unions for more staff and better pay and conditions or is just the Volunteer association?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Time for action
« on: January 14, 2010, 06:20:30 PM »
What is the protest going to be about?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Full time CFS?
« on: January 14, 2010, 06:57:24 AM »
Having paid CFS would not work,CFS seem to want to be the CFA, the CFA have a long history of paid staff and even now Victoria will see one fire service in the future. Maybe MFS need to adapt more to rural fire fighting and then there would be no need for paid CFS in these Urban/Rural settings? CFS have paid staff who as Rainer said outrank on shift fireman but have no fire operations training to be on shift fire fighters, i doubt most of them would pass the testing.

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Incident Operations / Re: 3rd Alarm Factory Fire Mt Barker
« on: December 01, 2009, 08:25:19 AM »
Quote from: big bronto on November 28, 2009, 07:22:12 AM
Yesterday was another situation that highlighted SA needing some sort of paid fire service in large country centres to get a sufficient response for fires.

Chirst would someone tell the MFESB that they've got our damn Grand Prix, so can they leave poor SA alone? Mind you, if you went to the UFU about it...

Interesting comment go to the UFU about it well it seems to work and they are getting good pay, conditions and manning in Victoria


Mt Barker can easily gain a 4th appliance and crew it then....that cover's 2 alarms.

What is Mt Barker getting a 4th appliance going to solve. For example the day of this 3rd alarm they had a manning of 7 on 2 trucks. say it was the day before or a week later and they only had a manning of 2 and there back up was the same then I am sure the business owners around that industrial estate would be a tad worried this is there coverage. Mt Barker will eventually have to staff 2 trucks with the MFS to cover both the town and surrounding rescue area. Meadows, stirling, lobethal, strath ses and even mt barker have struggled to provide sufficient rescue crews in the past year during the day. Take CFA for example they will have up to 2000 staff in Victoria to not only support majors towns but to respond up to 30km out of their primary area to support the volunteers.

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Incident Operations / Re: 3rd Alarm Factory Fire Mt Barker
« on: November 28, 2009, 07:22:12 AM »
Yesterday was another situation that highlighted SA needing some sort of paid fire service in large country centres to get a sufficient response for fires.

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Incident Operations / Re: Kilburn plastics fire
« on: September 19, 2009, 11:12:22 PM »
yeh crash but all the white trucks between the bridge, barossa and victor are not set up in any way shape or form for urban incidents.

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Incident Operations / Re: Kilburn plastics fire
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:32:49 PM »
The lack of pumpers does this then become a state government issue, if they will not put on more full time firefighters and appliances to cover this great short fall then do they supply CFS with more pumps??? Would not hurt CFS to have 20 pumpers within 30 minutes of the city.

Why do MFS not use their own retained firefighters, would the 2nd pumps from Murray Bridge and Victor Harbor not be better then a 34P, Tanunda MFS could have left their patch to cover northern areas.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: August 13, 2009, 01:51:13 PM »
Just wondering is it the equipment or experience that required a MFS so badly, what is wrong with the next CFS rescue?

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Emergency Vehicles / New Rescue van for CFS
« on: July 20, 2009, 05:30:12 PM »
Peoples thoughts on this new Hyundai Rescue vehicle getting around for CFS?

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Country Fire Service / Re: New BA Course Internal and External
« on: July 20, 2009, 05:23:36 PM »
Way too many issues with doing this, at a nice little car fire spreads to house oh sorry i can't do internal, let us burn the house down then.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Sunday Mail
« on: May 25, 2009, 11:22:52 AM »


Stirling i see is a very good position to have the roughly 4 or 5 appliances.  They are pretty much going to be the ones fighting the fire and delivering the water to the upper sturt crew's....if Belair national park goes up....all at the same time.

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I think Stirling have bitten off more then they can chew on this one, they struggle to get 1 truck out the door let alone crew 5 trucks...They would be way above their standards with 5 trucks. Give them a pumper, 34p and 24 maybe the group tanker and pention their old trucks off. One more little truck will not do anything when "THE BIG ONE" hits and you will be getting help from a lot more groups and regions when the time arises.

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SAMFS / Re: MFS COMMS STRIKES AGAIN
« on: May 05, 2009, 10:02:57 AM »
Busy day what cracked the 50 and fell to pieces...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Budgets
« on: April 29, 2009, 09:00:05 AM »
Chook word is a lot will change after the royal commission. The UFU is wanting one fire service, a lot of it's members want one fire service. CFA are increasing their manning in a lot of stations and manning new stations in the next few years to further support rural areas and larger country centres.

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SAMFS / Re: MFS COMMS STRIKES AGAIN
« on: April 29, 2009, 08:55:06 AM »
Quote from: boredmatrix on April 29, 2009, 12:03:09 AM
Quote from: Zippy on April 28, 2009, 07:40:03 PM



How much does it cost every time an appliance turns out......more to the point how much does it cost when 2 trucks turn out for what was requested as a low priority attendance for a fluid spill??????



How much is a life worth, the job is not always as it seems? Why do you all worry about cost...the money isn't coming out of your own account.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Budgets
« on: April 28, 2009, 05:19:13 PM »
Chook i think you have that a tad wrong about victoria...
MFB do everything, CFA do everything, SES do rescue and cut up trees...

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Country Fire Service / CFS STAFF BEING VOLUNTEER OFFICERS
« on: April 26, 2009, 11:14:51 PM »
Hi crew,

I have heard that a regional commander is trying to stop all CFS staff being officers in their volunteer brigades??

I can understand maybe operational regional staff not being officers in the brigades that are in their region but staff officers and the like being cut from this they will loose such a lot of quality experience from brigades. I thought the CFS was short of volunteers and this is not a wise move, i believe if this gets passed then this will cause brigades more harm then good.

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SAMFS / Re: MFS COMMS STRIKES AGAIN
« on: April 25, 2009, 02:23:01 PM »
Yes i do have many facts about the job and phone calls were made, this comes down to an operator not knowing his job and when things do go wrong still not knowing how to fix it...Seemed to work ok when cfs were running both services with just 2 people...

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SAMFS / MFS COMMS STRIKES AGAIN
« on: April 25, 2009, 12:58:39 PM »
Is it just me or does something seriously need to change with the operators in MFS comms in the way they handle both call receipt and dispatch of both CFS and SES jobs. In standards of Comms centres they are very poor in service delivery and accountability for wrong responses.

Like the following do you apologise to the person that died in the car from serious injuries because someone just could not join the dots, know your job and know your responses:

11:24:11 25-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC051 25/04/09 11:23,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,NAIRNE MAP 161 K 12 TG128,CAT VS TREE NEAR FREEWAY UNDERPASS FROM,SAAS P1,OBA020 NAIR00

11:29:24 25-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC051 25/04/09 11:28,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,NAIRNE MAP 161 K 12 TG128,BALD HILL RD NAIRNE NEAR FREEWAY UNDERPA,SS,STRL19

11:29:43 25-04-09 MBKR: *CFSRES: RESPOND MT BARKER STATION MANUAL TURNOUT 25-04-09 11:29

11:30:05 25-04-09 MFS: FROM OAKBANK, STOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT, STIRLING RESCUE TO ATTEND, FROM ADEL FIRE 

11:33:16 25-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC051 25/04/09 11:32,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,NAIRNE MAP 161 K 12 TG128,NEAR FREEWAY UNDERPASS,MBKR19

11:37:48 25-04-09 MFS: FROM MT BARKER CFS STOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT 51

I am sorry but i think that this needs to have a investigation into the service delivery standards to make sure things are done as they should be.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New Burnside Pumper
« on: April 22, 2009, 10:52:16 AM »
Good Job by the glen osmond boys by the look, didnt see many other trucks there doing much on the cctv footage. Would be interesting to see how much things would change if that was mfs area, i reckon 2 pump would give a few people a run for their money.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New Burnside Pumper
« on: April 12, 2009, 01:26:26 PM »
Any reason burnside pumper has gone back to london round and not stuck with the storz outfit?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Get Ready For the Big One
« on: March 30, 2009, 06:11:38 PM »
If it is CFS then 10 hectares is big...

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: March 27, 2009, 09:43:47 AM »
Pip is right look at the big picture...Who said that all other MFS appliances were not tied up at other calls. If 339 is the next closest pump then it will back up 359, it is just a bonus them both being pump rescue appliances. You will find as more MFS stations get rescue there will be pump rescues responding with each other, one for the rescue and one for fire cover.

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All Equipment discussion / Pumper outlet positions split from Burnside Pumper
« on: March 10, 2009, 09:35:23 PM »
teddy my friend, see the thing is cfs do not even run an operate pumps course so most people would be confused when standing at the rear of a pump panel on this type of truck, so with more hoses in the way could easily confuse and make life hard for your everyday pump operator.

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