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Country Fire Service / Re: posting on youtube
« on: May 31, 2008, 07:46:35 PM »
I can't see much of a problem with taking photos or video and posting them on the net, as long as people are smart about it.

Making sure that all persons involved have correct PPE and are doing the right thing in accordance to SOP's would have to be the basics. Then perhaps make sure that peoples names/faces aren't visible unless they are happy to have them sitting around on the 'net.

Some of the CFS videos getting around YouTube are good, varied and different, but if I see another video of Seaford CFS turning out, I'll hang myself. Variety is the spice of life, Jono!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Metal items in pockets
« on: May 21, 2008, 04:24:11 PM »
Bittenyakka, shove knives are basically thin strips of metal used for opening mainly 'key in the knob' type locks and slipping window catches. Heaps of them in office's, a few in residential buildings. They are also great for getting out of fire stairs when you lock your self in  :|

http://www.thefirestore.com/store/product.cfm/pid_1177_6_shove_knife/


Rescuehazmat has got it 110%. By the time you can feel heat from metal in your pockets, your in a world of trouble anyhow. As far as sitting around in heat for long enough to have metal items heat up to a dangerous extent, it would have to be reasonably extraordinary situation to be exposed to that much heat for that long. Thats why you ventilate and extinguish the fire!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Whats in your pockets?
« on: May 21, 2008, 04:04:14 PM »
Ours is locked up, but only with the normal station key.

No sense in having it locked up if members cannot access it when they need to. Things don't tend to break on training nights.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: PBi at MVAs
« on: May 20, 2008, 06:25:42 PM »
Considering that that list contradicts the CFS Headwear policy, I'll stick to using my own common sense.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Whats in your pockets?
« on: May 20, 2008, 06:22:03 PM »
2 Pairs - Doesn't everyone regularly ransack the storeroom?

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Metal items in pockets
« on: May 20, 2008, 06:18:17 PM »
I can happily tell you that my pockets are full of both metal and plastic items that can heat up and melt. Good grief!

Knives, Multitools, Shove Knives, Screwdrivers, in fact, after some jobs, my pockets glow red hot.

In all seriousness, by the time metal has heated up and you can feel it through your turnout coat... I'd think that you'd have far more to worry about than having a hot pocket.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire in your brigade or LHQ
« on: May 17, 2008, 07:30:56 PM »
I Agree with that bill :)   CFA seem to be the innovative service for the nation :)

Haha, working on your standup routine again zippy?

It wouldn't be hard for the CFS to have multiple types of spare appliance. All those old appliances that are retired due to age rather than operational capability could easily keep their stowage and have a basic refurb done - then be placed in storage to be used as a temporary replacement.


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All Equipment discussion / Re: Sabre Centurion Company?
« on: May 16, 2008, 01:43:42 AM »
Colour me confused (and tired at 0145), but where did all the talk of 8 and 6L Cylinders come from?

As far as I knew, the CFS used two types of cylinder, the 9L 207 Bar FRP and the 6.8L 300Bar CFW.

SAMFS have their short and stubby 300Bar cylinder, which I am assuming must be the 6L?

I remember their being talk of issues with the fitting of the SAMFS cylinders and sets when they changed them over a few years back, can anyone shed any light on that? Are they still using the MSA Auer BD88/96 airsets?

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Sabre Centurion Company?
« on: May 15, 2008, 02:57:30 PM »
Dan, I did the maths, did you?

Working duration is:

300 Bar - 41min
207 Bar - 36min

The 300Bar CFW cylinders on polycarbonate backplates are an amazing difference. Its like chalk and cheese. I agree with your point about the low usage of SCBA in the CFS, but perhaps individual groups and regions need to get on the journey and investigate the purchase of better sets and cylinders for brigades that do use SCBA regularly. The obvious candidates are going to be Hazmat brigades and those that do a fair number of alarms/structural fires.

CFW cylinders aren't the precious little eggs that everyone seems to suggest, they can take a beating for sure.

Plus, think of the fun you can have running dual 300Bar cylinders, for a whole 92 minutes of working time! Oh the  joy!

Bittenyakka, time to get people who think like that a few bucks for a can of harden up and a phone call to 1800-Boo-Hoo. Throwing a set on isn't that hard, and your lungs will thank you. Good heavens the cleaning takes a whole 10 minutes and most of that is letting the disinfectant do its think. Oh life is tough! :P

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Quiet year...
« on: May 15, 2008, 02:23:52 PM »
Most people tend not to argue when a fire truck or two and a police car are sitting out the front with blues and reds blazing..
HA! You're no doubt in the good end of town. Most of the time it seems to goad them on to make more of a stand.

If they're breaking the law, then by all means put it out, but from some of the comments here it seems like there is a bit of legislative misunderstanding that is then interpreted as "Its a fire, put it out!"


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Country Fire Service / Re: Burnside Pumper
« on: May 12, 2008, 06:36:55 PM »
Isn't the rule that the spare appliance takes on the call sign of the appliance that it replaces? Otherwise it get far to confusing.

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If you have a good T/O that gives you the state and region course lists, that should make the best of the 'advertisement' side of things Zippy. That is a big IF though  :wink:

As to what the course has in it, when I did it, it was focusing on the different types of maps used, as well as how to direct someone correctly, and finally looking at major and minor landmarks to use as points of reference given a major disaster.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire 000
« on: May 12, 2008, 06:28:10 PM »
So what did we learn from last weeks episode?

A) If you have a red helmet, you don't need to wear correct PPE.

B) If you have a camera crew up your clacker, wear your uniform 'correctly' to a stupid extent.

I wonder what we'll see this week  :wink:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire 000
« on: May 03, 2008, 09:06:58 PM »
Ah, but atleast you would get to see the entire SAMFS fleet at every alarm call!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire 000
« on: April 30, 2008, 11:25:09 PM »
Speaking of the blurb, it does make for some great reading:

Quote from: Channel 9
A fire officer gets a 000 alert and our crews are right there every step of the way.

Fire officer? Welcome to politically correct land I guess...

Quote from: Channel 9
This series will deliver real-time stories of hope, drama and jeopardy, mixed with heart-felt emotion and fascinating NSW Fire Brigade procedure.

Yes ladies and gents, our procedure is fascinating you had better believe it.

"Watch this week as the Men and Women Fire Officers at City of Sydney Fire Station reset a fire alarm in a Hotel, mere minutes after resetting one in a Brothel, mere minutes after having their dinner interrupted"

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Which helmet torch?
« on: April 30, 2008, 09:50:43 PM »
The Xenon is good. I have not used any LED ones.

Have you thought about a Super Sabrelite 2000 as a (not helmet) torch? They are great torches, very durable and great in smoke filled environments.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire 000
« on: April 30, 2008, 09:46:26 PM »
It'll be good to see such a professional bunch of blokes, doing what they do best...     :wink:

As long as they don't air any car fires in Punchbowl, I'm a safe man!  :-P

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SAAS / Re: Violence on scene
« on: April 30, 2008, 04:12:17 PM »
i agree wit everythin pip said...and the plan at baxter witht the protesters was to use charged hose lines to hold them bak under instructions from sapol...

Aren't we meant to protect life and property regardless of who and what it is? We are not an arm of the state for civil disturbance suppression.

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SAMFS / Re: RECRUITMENT 2008
« on: April 29, 2008, 11:46:46 PM »
Aren't they using it rather than the 'Quote' function?

EG: The following comments are directed @ so and so

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 28, 2008, 11:12:47 AM »
Regarding the Oliver boots, I use the zipper style ones for work and find them to be very good boots. Good support and no issues with the zipper. Dare I say a little more comfy than the Taipans.

Jacob, sizing can be a pain especially if you do fall into the gap between sizes like I used to. As far as having issues with the zip goes, have you got the boot laced correctly? I've never had issues with boots since we moved on from the Redback, which had a shitty zipper but that was kept in check with a bit of chain lube.

There is a difference between the National standard and what is actually approved for use, and supplied by different agencies. I would also imagine that you could get away with using the same style boot from a different manufacturer, but not a different style completely. Its much like elastic sided boots are a no-no these days due to the ankle support and flammability issues, but both Redback and Taipan style boots are still in use...

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Country Fire Service / Re: CFS STC
« on: April 23, 2008, 10:34:08 AM »
Ahh great memories that song brings back.

Nice work :)

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 21, 2008, 05:48:33 PM »
What ISO standards did you find? Oddly enough, nothing but the Australian standard is mentioned on any of the manufacturers pages for Aussie footwear - don't know where you were looking?

As far as other standards for boots and PPE you've got things like NFPA 1971 & 1977 standards for Structural and Wildfire PPE respectively, can't be bothered looking for the European ones at the moment.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 21, 2008, 03:46:57 PM »
Yeah, there is a standard, AS/NZS 4821:2006 - Firefighters Footwear, deals with the whole lot.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: DEAD HOSE REELS
« on: April 21, 2008, 08:59:30 AM »
So is it just like flaked hose, but you pull it off the reel? So if the reel hold 8x25mm lengths, and you need two, you run two out, disconnect from the reel, connect to the pump and off you go? It sounds good for 25mm, I don't know about anything larger.

Is there still the need to run all the hose off the reel first before supplying water to the line? I could see a fair possibility of squashing the drum or damaging hoses if this was the case and people weren't careful about it.


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Country Fire Service / Re: Turnout Information Management system (TIM)
« on: April 18, 2008, 08:06:53 PM »
As far as voices go, as long as you don't go for the slightly gay sounding man we have, its all good!

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