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Country Fire Service / Re: Turnout Information Management system (TIM)
« on: April 17, 2008, 08:11:17 PM »
Just how versatile is this system? Does it have the ability to add information regarding specific buildings or areas? Reading from a stored information database or somesuch?

Its good to see things moving toward more information being available, on something thats not just the pager. You've gotta love the computers voice rendition of "House fire, Pumper A, Pumper B"

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 15, 2008, 04:53:42 PM »
The Haix Fire Hunter is a good boot, Lion have them in Adelaide for about $325, last time I looked. They are pretty much the best of the best when it comes to Bunker boots, and as such, you know that they will never be purchased by the CFS :wink:

I know a few people who have been purchasing the Harvaik L3 boot http://www.firetrader.com.au/prod17.htm
I've seen those retail for around $80. They are made of rubber, and to be honest I'm not a fan of those types at all. Very little ankle support and an odd fit in general.

RescueHazmat, I agree with most of what you're saying, except regarding rural fires. Perhaps its because of my hilly local area but I think that ankle support is paramount in rural firefighting boots, and its hard to compare the laced up zippers and the bunker style boots when it comes to this. I also have found that most bunker boots are a fair amount heavier than other styles of boots. Of course it all comes down to the individual experience we have with boots. Try Redbacks vs. Taipans for example, same style, world of difference.

Uniden, if your turnout pants are riding to the middle of your shin and higher, perhaps you need to have them resized? With both PBI and Nomex + liner turnout pants, I've never had them ride up above the top of my boots, there's always been a few inches overlap at the very least.

The other point would perhaps be the versatility of the boots we currently have. They are great for all fire and rescue applications and provide very good bang for their buck. Maybe the stance the CFS need to take with certain things is to approve equipment for use, but not supply it. Mind you, the CFS then have to have both the manpower and the money to test and review different items of equipment.

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SAMFS / Re: Beulah Park
« on: April 15, 2008, 04:40:44 PM »
Although I do like the idea of a station manned with nothing but recruits.  :mrgreen:

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2nd Alarm response off the bat ain't too shabby...  :roll:

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 15, 2008, 03:02:01 PM »
Jaff, I think the question asked is more to do with members purchasing their own items of equipment and using them, rather than the CFS as a whole purchasing more boots.

To answer your questions though, I'd suggest that 99.9% of brigades and members would have no benefit from bunker boots.

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SAMFS / Re: Beulah Park
« on: April 15, 2008, 12:01:15 PM »
I'm sure SA Firey meant that the next drill squad would fill positions to allow required crewing (without boatloads of O/T) at Beulah Park.

... at least I hope he did!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 15, 2008, 11:58:50 AM »
Yeah it can be a tough one. Between the two types of boots I have found that the Structural type zipper boots are much more supportive of the ankle compared to the Bunker style boot. This may differ between brands of bunker boot, especially with boots like the Haix Florian Pro that allege better ankle support.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 14, 2008, 06:02:44 PM »
As far as I'm concerned, as long as it meets the standard...

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SAMFS / Re: Beulah Park
« on: April 14, 2008, 06:00:56 PM »
All of them? Perhaps the silver axe gets the Red helmet?  :wink:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Private alarms
« on: April 14, 2008, 05:56:18 PM »
I still fail to see the issue here. As long as the appropriate number of appliances were turned out to the job, I don't see any issue with the command car responding.

Multiple alarm activations over a small time period need to be handled by the OIC attending. If people are working  (sanding/cleaning etc) in the zone, perhaps its best to isolate it until such work is finished, if there is an obvious malfunction, perhaps then it too needs to be isolated until a servicing company can be called to fix the issue. There are many things that the attending brigades can do to stop the multiple activations in a day.

Its good of Barker to provide a great example for us right now, that not ALL AFA's are false. 

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Other Government Agencies / Re: SA Police Caught Pirating Movies
« on: April 11, 2008, 02:17:47 PM »
Its like we need an "Other government agencies" board, or something...

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New CFA turnout gear
« on: April 11, 2008, 02:15:13 PM »
I thought that it had been in trial for some time. Last reports I read (a year or so ago) seemed to lean towards the Nomex Delta C w/liners option rather than the PBI. Although this may be incorrect as I see the MFB trialling the PBI uniform. I would imagine that MFB/CFA would jointly make a decision.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: PBi at MVAs
« on: April 10, 2008, 10:44:34 PM »
Interesting discussion so far. I'll bite.

Its probably a little different for my brigade, as we have the Rescue truck, the Urban truck, the Rural truck, etc, all with rather defined roles. eg: The pumper rarely turns out as primary to a scrub fire...

Within this framework, I wear PBI to everything, unless I am on one of our rural appliances that has no BA stowage. As far as PBI +Lvl 1 is concerned, the looks may not be great but its functional and as the CFS dropped the ball on PBI I'm happy to wear 1/2 - 1/2, and preferably, just PBI pants and T-Shirt.

In terms of dropping the ball, CFS had a really great opportunity to introduce a lightweight, long sleeve, cotton work shirt to be worn (a la MFS) with the PBI when the conditions dictate that full kit is not required. This helps to combat heat stress issues and looking mildly retarded in a lvl 1 coat, while still maintaining the level of protection necessary for both rural and rescue incidents.

I believe that the CFS minimum PPE for a rescue job is Lvl 1 turnout gear? Correct? Then, our problem is solved. As long as you are wearing something that meets or exceeds the standard, there is no issue. Its like Splash Suits and Gas Suits. As long as you have the minimum, you are only making a choice to increase the level of protection you have. I don't believe that PBI provides any greater protection specifically at rescue incidents and if anything, I think it's bulkier, heavier, hotter and a general pain in the arse as far as rescue is concerned. At work, 100% cotton pants and shirt (+gloves etc etc) is the minimum for any rescue work, and at MVA's the only person in their full turnout gear is the bloke providing fire cover.

I'm all for firefighter safety, but I really don't really agree that going down the path of 'PBI provides better protection at MVA's' is the right way to go, especially when countered with the heat stress argument. The weather protection it gives is great, and wouldn't be an issue if the CFS made raincoats a standard item that didn't need to be fought tooth and nail for.

That said, I do wear my PBI for rescue work, I find that the pants are more comfortable, more durable and more padded for my abused knees. I try to ditch the turnout coat asap, but hey, bring on the work shirts.

Don't forget that the old L3 nomex, was never a complete L3 outfit. Only the turnout coat had the liner...
(unless you are super special or lived at STC)

Cheers!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Burnside Pumper
« on: April 10, 2008, 10:09:37 PM »
I'll put money on it having wheels. In fact, I'll put money on that being the only thing that is similar to what the Burnside lads signed off on.

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ALL Rescue / Re: Road Crash Rescue competitions
« on: April 10, 2008, 10:08:23 PM »
What? The boys from Burwood? ;)

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SA Fire Fighter Events / Re: ANGASTON GROUP FUNDRAISER
« on: April 08, 2008, 03:15:37 PM »
Our brigade has done a fair amount of self funded training, often to get around SFEC issues. As far as non standard stowage issues, I was under the impression that as long as a risk assessment has been done and relevant training undertaken, there is little issue with with the equipment being used.

It would be nice to know a little bit more about what the concert is raising money for, rather than just "Angaston CFS Group"

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ALL Rescue / Re: Road Crash Rescue competitions
« on: April 08, 2008, 03:12:25 PM »
I'm not a huge fan of the comps, mainly due to 'real life' and 'competitions' being two very different things in terms of training, speed and process.

I'd love to see a forum of all services with a 'show and tell' of tips and techniques - there is always something for us to learn.

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OFF Topic / Re: Voice Over IP
« on: April 06, 2008, 05:59:45 PM »
Ha! Oh Internode, how you used to be good to me...


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SA Firefighter General / Re: The madness has started!
« on: April 06, 2008, 03:45:26 PM »
Bittenyakka, you're right on the money. NSWFB has Regions, comprising of Zones, which are a collection of stations.  so really Zones -> CFS Groups.

Katrina, the issue is that to the firies knowledge all paperwork was filled out and correct, yet they then received the infringement notices at home. In these instances they were responding to fire calls. If you break the road rules whilst not responding to an emergency, then you do have to pay the fine - something I totally agree with.

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SAMFS / Re: SAMFS Firies on this forum
« on: April 05, 2008, 07:02:20 PM »
Not SAMFS, but a comrade from the east.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: The madness has started!
« on: April 05, 2008, 06:58:07 PM »
So far it has been put down to an "Administrative Error" that some firies had received the infringement notices. Normally it hits the Zone commanders office, gets fired back to the RTA and pulped. Speeding and blowing red lights  whilst not turning out is another thing altogether.

I would suggest the whole thing is a little bit of a media beat up.

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Fire boat?

I think you mean SAMFS M.V Gallantry  :-)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Voice Recorders
« on: April 01, 2008, 10:51:53 AM »
This should be a little bit interesting. I'm sure that members of the group would like to know that they are being recorded.

I assume that much like it used to be 111 and 124 being recorded by the CFS(There are no doubt others, but these were the only ones relevant to Lofty Group) now it would be 150 and the other non simplex SAMFS talkgroups?

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The Humour Zone / Re: this is just embarrising
« on: March 29, 2008, 07:56:43 PM »
Try the door? More like try the right house!

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SAMFS / Re: RECRUITMENT 2008
« on: March 23, 2008, 02:23:02 PM »
21337, the information in the recruitment section of the SAMFS website is pretty obvious as to the proof needed of IT skills.

Quote from: SAMFS
What evidence will you accept as basic skills in Microsoft Word 2000 ™ and Microsoft Outlook 2000 ™ or later versions?

The MFS will accept a certificate obtained from an employment agency or a registered training provider in basic skills in Microsoft Word 2000™ and Outlook 2000™ or a later version.   Please note:  Certificates obtained and accepted during the 2005 recruitment process will be accepted.

Katrina, most fire services are concerned about theft/dishonesty due to the position of trust that the Fire Brigade has in the community. Playing with matches is in fact a requirement  :evil:

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