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Keep it friendly!!!!

You attack the fire you have not the one you might have. There are smart people that are fully aware of state resource requirements and risk planning. You know with some peoples attitudes CFS can't win, they either throw too few resources at something or too many. When will people say "good job CFS you made a great decision". If your area is burning and there are bombers sitting on the ground elsewhere I bet you guys say "send more bombers!!!!"

Why do we persist in second guessing a response when we are not part of the decision making process. 

Two sides to every coin! Next minute you will post saying you went to a job and there where no bombers blah blah blah......Bombers in the auto dispatch zone will be dispatched automatically and can knock a fire down saving you hours or days.....Be happy the state has this resource! and the state is already paying for the aircraft and crew so why not put them in the air?
Unless things have changed there is no extra cost involved in the first 30 minutes of airborne time. I have said it before I welcome early bombing! Several jobs I recall where the first drop pulled up a growing fire and on another occasion helped us gain access by giving advice from the air. Very useful resource don't knock it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Can't be sure but I think there is some history behind this thread. Bill may be able to shed some light. I think there was a parade at Naracoorte involving vintage appliances and the kids were denied a ride.....Could be wrong though.

Agree!

The CFS has been on a march towards a bureaucratic government department for years.

The heart of volunteering in the CFS will remain but the govt don't make it easy.
It's seemingly small things like these that make people reconsider their involvement.

Family of members must IMO be allowed to ride on trucks for non-emergency events such as you describe. It gives the kids a memorable day and just might be enough to keep them interested to join one day.

Decision makers need to look beyond enforcing rules and look at long term implications. Succession planning and volunteer retention are huge issues.

If it's an insurance liability issue can't members accept any risk and sign a waiver or better still CFS via Govt agree to cover members families for special events. Of course there would be a registration required and effective record keeping but that's all manageable.

Come on CFS build the organisation by building into the kids!!!!!!

The Ops planning jobs are advertised in saturdays paper.....

CFS Staff should not be public servants in the traditional sense. They should be employees of a fire service and have wage and conditions parity with other fire services. And be eligable for membership of the UFU.

We are talking about career fire fighting professionals expected to take senior roles within incident management and are grossly under paid for the priviledge.

I haven't checked but wonder what a similar role in the capital cities fire services would be paid. Regional staff absolutely get a very raw deal....IMO

The brainy ones lurk around - bemused at the ranting of the others.....

The trick if there is one, is to do your own job properly. A fireys job is to deal with hazards on arrival, there will be ambos in the car......! So when fireys deal with hazards they are making everyone safer, including the ambos.

Fireys do our part at the scene but we need to remember our place, dealing with hazards, providing fire cover, conducting rescue. The ambos do the hard stuff!!!!!

My trick for MVA's is introduce yourself to the ambos and ask what they need. Don't tell them what to do! They don't need to deal with you as well as their casualty.

misterteddy you crack me up! Nicely put