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General Discussion => Incident Operations => Topic started by: Benji on September 14, 2009, 07:10:38 PM
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MFS: *CFSRES INC057 14/09/09 17:53,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,INWOOD AV,KILBURN MAP 93 P 11 TG182,PGF PLASTIC GRANULATING
So far following units paged..
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Sounds like it is an interesting job.. LPG tanks and other factories under threat & issues with water supply.
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Umm it could be an interesting job... 1k's litres of diesel and 1k's litres LPG with all the plastics...
Any more news of whether is a gonna yet?
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AdelaideNow has a story running at http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26071773-5006301,00.html
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Multiple COQ's
18:40:43 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 40, MFS Glen Osmond 441
18:40:13 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 37, MFS Paradise 221 Response
18:37:18 PRIROITY 1 TO ADEL STN MFS Christie Downs 431
18:37:01 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 40 CFS Eden Hills Response
18:33:52 SECOND PUMP TO GLENOSMOND CFS Burnside Response
18:33:22 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Burnside Response
18:32:47 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36 CFS Dalkeith Response
18:32:09 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32 CFS Salisbury Response
18:23:13 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 20 MFS Christie Downs 431
18:21:48 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 24 MFS ex Beulah Park 211
18:21:00 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 21 CFS Burnside Response
18:16:09 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
18:15:39 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 42 CFS Happy Valley Response
18:09:22 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 24 MFS Stn 20
18:08:37 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
18:54:28 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC072 14/09/09 18:56,RESPOND FACTORY FIRE,107 MOORINGE AV,CAMDEN PARK MAP 128 P 11 TG182,,STM409 EDNH00 PDS221 CFS Eden Hills Response
19:17:35 CAN YOU PLS CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE HEADING TO STATION 36 ANGLE PARK CFS Dalkeith Response
19:23:43 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 21 CFS Hermitage Response
19:24:43 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC060 14/09/09 19:26,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,INWOOD AV,KILBURN MAP 93 P 11 TG182,,SAL321 DALK19 ATHL19 CFS Salisbury Response
19:28:11 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 40 CFS Belair Response
19:29:39 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 42 CFS Seaford Response
19:30:39 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36 CFS Virginia Response
19:33:56 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 43 MFS Glen Osmond 441
19:37:09 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 41 MFS Paradise 221 Response
19:45:52 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC076 14/09/09 19:46,RESPOND PROVIDE SHELTER,LIONEL AV,BLAIR ATHOL MAP 94 C 13,CATERING FOR SAPOL,KILBURN OVAL,FOOTY CL,UB.TEA COFFEE,FACEMASKS,ENF020 SES Enfield Response
19:46:27 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 14/09/09 19:47,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RAPID 969 293 BOUNDARY DR,CAREY GULLY MAP 134 K 9 TG126,BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL ASSIST LANDOWNER,SAIR55 CARY00 CFS Carey Gully Response
19:59:05 14-09-09 MFS: 6th + alarm PGS Plastics granular, 14/09/2009 8:01:00 PM MFS Car 31
20:44:35 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Eden Hills Response
20:52:07 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 45 MFS Glen Osmond 441
21:06:24 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 MFS Paradise
21:14:28 14-09-09 TASK COMPLETED CREW STANDING DOWN REGARDS <name> SES Enfield Info
21:16:15 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 28 LARGS NORTH CONTACT COMMS WHEN MOBILE CFS Burnside Response
1930429 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 28 LARGS NORTH CONTACT COMMS WHEN MOBILE MFS Beulah Park 211 Response
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Reports of people lighting more fires near this one. idiots come to my mind.
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Any more news? They granulate plastics and have a 4 hectare plastics store!!! Dangerous... Can be smelt at Lonsdale and Gawler!
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From http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS60900.shtml
Dir Speed(km/h) Gust(km/h)
Adelaide 14/08:15pm SE 6 7
Adelaide Airport 14/08:15pm S 11 11
Edinburgh 14/08:15pm S 7 7
Adelaide 14/08:45pm E 0 0
Adelaide Airport 14/08:45pm SE 7 9
Edinburgh 14/08:45pm S 2 4
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On Site now...
fire is confined to plastics and fuel store in large yard.
Onsite fire teams fought fire back from fuel tanks and plant using fire extinguishers and hose... Trained very very well!
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Another round of COQ's
21:33:26 14-09-09 FYI - change of quarters request for several brigades coming through shortly, crews will need to be available until approx 0600hrs. From DSC <name> CFS Heysen Group Info; CFS Onkaparinga Group Info; CFS Lofty Group Info
21:21:52 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 35 MFS GAWLER CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Williamstown Response
21:22:28 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32 MFS SALISBURY CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
21:22:45 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 14/09/09 21:23,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CORMACK RD,WINGFIELD MAP 92 P 6 TG182,WEST OF CHURCHILL RD NORTH MEET HOOK,TRUCK TO ASSIST UNLOADING,BURN19 CFS Burnside Response
21:24:58 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 43 MFS CHRISTIE DOWNS CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Aldinga Response
21:26:58 TEA TREE GULLY 24 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 MFS GOLDEN GROVE CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
21:32:26 BALHANNAH CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFS Oakbank/Balhannah Response
21:33:11 BRIDGEWATER CFS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Bridgewater Response
21:35:03 ALDGATE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Aldgate Response
21:35:35 MT BARKER CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Mount Barker Response
21:33:11 BRIDGEWATER CFS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Bridgewater Response
21:35:03 ALDGATE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Aldgate Response
21:35:35 MT BARKER CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Mount Barker Response
21:39:15 NAIRNE CFS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Nairne Response
21:42:45 SALISBURY 24 CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 37, JOHNS RD PROSPECT P2 CFSRES CFS Salisbury Response
22:00:56 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 14/09/09 22:02,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,INWOOD AV,KILBURN MAP 93 P 11 TG182,PRIORITY 2 CREW CHANGEOVER REPORT TO 209,0 ON ARRIVAL,CDN439 GAW359
22:20:20 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 21 MFS Beulah Park 211 Response
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largest round of CoQ I can remember. Big night!
Amazing that CFS are CoQ in a very large number of SAMFS stations. Plus several CFS crews at the job!
Difficult night for comms to manage, doing a good job!
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From: http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26071773-5006301,00.html
Youth held as fire engulfs Kilburn plastics factory
September 14, 2009 06:10pm
..DEVELOPING: ONE youth has been apprehended and houses around a Kilburn plastics factory have been evacuated after a disastrous fire took hold tonight.
Police have allegedly apprehended a youth over the incident.
A 1km air exclusion zone is in place above the fire.
At least 88 firefighters are on the scene, working in three seperate sectors.
The MFS is working with Port Adelaide Enfield Council to relay water from the council depot.
The fire is well advanced, burning plastic pallets inside the factory.
Two Environmental Protection officers are filming the toxic fumes, which are blowing in a northeasterly direction.
It was believed the fire started in two metal containers containing plastics for reycyling.
Concerns about toxic fumes blowing east towards Prospect Rd prompted police to start clearing the area about 7.20pm.
Shortly before 7.15pm, three explosions were heard from the fire.
The fire is threatening to take hold in hundreds of bales of recycled plastic and is also threatening a LPG tank nearby.
Fifteen houses near the factory have been evacuated, but no one has been injured so far.
The huge blaze is causing traffic chaos in the inner-northern suburbs, with traffic jams on Prospect, Kilburn and Grand Junction roads and several crashes.
The fire started in Plastics Granulating Services, on Inwood Ave, about 5.50pm, sending a thick plume of black smoke across the northern suburbs.
A witness said one of the factory's workers saw three youths with skateboards jumping a rear fence and fleeing moment after the fire started.
Up to 30 MFS appliances are battling the blaze, however they are reporting serious problems with water supply.
Flames about 40m high are burning into the sky, and the base of the fire is at least 40m wide.
The fire is right next to Housing Trust homes and any residents who have not been evacuated are advised to stay indoors with their windows closed.
Meanwhile, two MFS appliances battled a kiln fire in a factory in Camden Park.
It's believed the fire started in timber resin in a factory on Mooringie Ave about 7pm.
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Some strange COQ's happening. All they need to do is look in the SOP's and it tells them who to send where, just backfill those stations with other CFS, rather than sending people totally unfamiliar with how MFS operate...eg Hermitage.
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must be the shiny new truck thing lol
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Yes, some real strange calls about appliances last night.
Had to laugh when they needed more pumpers and what they got.
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Well there is only 6 pumpers within coooeeeee of the city if you go as far as Mt Barker, 1 of them was tied up at a going house fire, Happy Valley, and I think Eden Hills were at a fire at Camden Park. Which doesn't leave much ! The only actual pumper that attended the fire was Burnside.
So from what I can work out, the fire didn't involve the structure, it was about a billion old plastic coke bottles ? Nice effect, all those 10c coins wasted haha
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keenly awaiting MFS & CFS's Review of this incident ;)
Simply cos a 7th Alarm hasnt existed till now...
A few broken pumps as well...
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At those who may think about being picky.......let's refrain from picking things to pieces!
Talk through things but don't assume you know how things did or did not get done. Or that you know better than those making decisions last night. Decisions are made in the pressure cooker of a large job. Please don't be an arm chair AIIMS consultant who thinks they know more than those who actually ran the job.
There was certainly a lot of resource required and many CFS brigades had their first run at CoQ. No problem with that.
Certainly tested the states ability to handle a normal workload and provide resource for a large job.
Be good to hear from anyone at the job or those that did a CoQ and ran to SAMFS jobs.....
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On the drive down the hill we were tiring to workout the last time a Bridgewater appliance had parked in Stn 20 on COQ, we believe it would have been around the early 1980's and that time we were driving and "Acco".
Certainly was interesting to spend some time looking at how the other side operate. At around 0100, we along with Barker and Aldgate were responded to the Kilburn fire, reading some of the comments here, it really didn't make a difference as to what type of appliance you were on as long as it carried BA and you had operators available. Our trucks were only used for transport.
We were tasked with dealing with any hot-spots amongst piles of molten plastic, working off Blackwood CAFS that was being fed water from Angle Park.
Overall an interesting but tiring experience. Cheers
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The fire was all out at mid-day. Only one shipping container left smoldering. Fire did not touch any building just blackened the walls in some spots. The clean will start tonight and be finished by friday night.
Woodville skyjet was cleaning up spots most of day.
Would be interesting to see what fire systems are installed after this... ie more hydrants, fire team training.
It was a LPG tank that was threatened which is being replaced overnight due to heat cracks that happened dueing day. The factory stayed operational in the Inwood avenue section all night and the Blackburn st section as well with 1 plants spacing and fog nozzles on walls to keep internal cool.
The Company only lost small amounts in the yard which was very small section of the total yard!
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so if the whole yard went up? :oops: :? :-o
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And reached the 40 tonne forklift, trucks, granulated plastics, shreaded plastics and jumped the fence into any of the neighbouring businesses? or got into the plant...
The whole area would be still on fire and the retained would be called in... We got away very luckily... the yard goes a long way into the site. Luckily the petrol bulk tank was empty, and the silos drained via vacumn to another silo at the other end of site...
SO what do you think they need? Lack of water so boosters? Hydrants? Wheeled units? maybe even their own truck in a static position?
Thoughts?
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Same issue happens every job out there, only about a 2nd alarm worth needed for the fire, but the water supply out there is shocking to say the least, so lots of relays and boosting needed. As daft as it sounds, MFS could do with a decent size tanker.
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i can think of about 70,000lts sitting withing 15 or 20 mins of there.....did they ask for as much as they could get?
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It was a good night, thought the comms operator on 150 was very professional, particularly when dealing with some CFS brigades not so used to talking to adelaide fire for more than 2 words. . .
Got back to station a little after midnight, what time did the guys get back who went to the job from 20?
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Athelstone 34P left at 19:30 and was tasked with fighting the fire and cooling then around 22:30 we changed over with fresh BA crews who where tasked to pull out most the hose then put out hot spots and a container going strong.
As we were thinking of going home we got called to take over from 451 pumping relay to the skyjet which was interesting.
Athelstone was back in station at 4:00am
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how did the 34P go with Water flow to the skyjet??
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We were in between 201 and the skyjet and 201 had to slow there pump down because we could not pump enough out to the skyjet
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We were in between 201 and the skyjet and 201 had to slow there pump down because we could not pump enough out to the skyjet
haha, stupid 34P restrictive plumbing...
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Well you go from 3800 lpm to 1900 lpm to 4500 lpm......hmmmmmm 34P will never do it
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Should have called in Sturt SES pump trailer Does 4000LPM
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Apparently some pumps broke, does any one know about this?
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MFS Media Release: Plastic fire a great save by firefighters
Plastic fire a great save by firefighters
Tuesday, 15 September 2009
The Metropolitan Fire Service (MFS) responded to a significant fire at a plastics recycling plant at Kilburn in Adelaide's north-east last night which threatened two factories, a foundry and an industrial-sized LP Gas cylinder.
The fire, involving plastic recycling materials stored outdoors at 'Plastics Granulating Services' on Inwood Road, was clearly visible on Adelaide's skyline and prompted a major response involving 24 fire trucks and about 90 firefighters.
MFS Chief Officer, Grant Lupton says the blaze impinged on buildings and left a damage bill of about $500,000 to plastic recycling products, but the committed effort of firefighters prevented structural damage.
"A main concern for firefighters was a large, 4000 litre LPG cylinder situated near the fire which was under threat and had the potential to explode. Another main objective was to prevent the fire from spreading to the two adjoining factories and foundry," Chief Officer Lupton says.
Also of major concern was the close proximity of a block of Housing Trust homes to the fire.
The MFS was assisted by SA Police and SA Ambulance Service in establishing a 500 metre exclusion zone around the incident, and residents within a two kilometre radius were advised to stay indoors.
Smoke from the intense, volatile fire could be seen billowing into the air and across Adelaide's skyline.
MFS Chief Officer Lupton says the MFS had strong support from the Country Fire Service (CFS) during the incident and together firefighters from the two agencies performed a tremendous save in trying conditions.
"I'd like to thank the CFS, which not only provided firefighters and trucks at the scene, but also provided support at the MFS State Coordination Centre and back-up at MFS fire stations across Adelaide to ensure the community remained protected.
"This incident had the potential to have a far more devastating result, if it had spread to adjoining buildings or caused the large LPG cylinder to explode. Fortunately workers at the factory should be able to return to work today," Chief Officer Lupton.
The fire started at just before 6 pm on Monday, 14 September and took MFS and CFS firefighters about three hours to bring under control.
At the height of the incident, 19 MFS fire trucks and five CFS fire trucks were responded. The fire was contained to plastic recycling products at the rear of the factory.
MFS firefighters have returned to the scene today to mop up after the incident, and MFS Fire Cause Investigators are working with SA Police to sift through the scene.
www.mfs.sa.gov.au
Email ID: 230674.
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Nice sensible press pat on the back from MR Lupton, good Media release telling all the story
Geez, twice in 5 mins i've been complimentary to town.....time for a lie down, it may be a fever
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Nice sensible press pat on the back from MR Lupton, good Media release telling all the story
Geez, twice in 5 mins i've been complimentary to town.....time for a lie down, it may be a fever
CnD...........I am of the opinion that your under some weird mind control, that is altering your perception!......pssst get some alfoil and rap it around your skull, it stops the messages....well it does for me anyway, ....gotta log of before they track me!
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More info on http://www.ozfire.org/ about the job.
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The lack of pumpers does this then become a state government issue, if they will not put on more full time firefighters and appliances to cover this great short fall then do they supply CFS with more pumps??? Would not hurt CFS to have 20 pumpers within 30 minutes of the city.
Why do MFS not use their own retained firefighters, would the 2nd pumps from Murray Bridge and Victor Harbor not be better then a 34P, Tanunda MFS could have left their patch to cover northern areas.
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Wouldn't it in this case fall on the property owner for having such a large store of flammables with no way of fighting it? Crews on site reported total lack of water supply, hydrants, and no monitors which you normally find in the plastics industry!
Thoughts?
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I could be wrong but the impression i have gotten from a few people over the years is MFS would rather use CFS as backup or for CoQ's than using their own retained.
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well....sorta makes sense doesnt it.....Victor, the Bridge or the Barossa....theres a shitload of white appliances in between them and a job in the city.....
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yeh crash but all the white trucks between the bridge, barossa and victor are not set up in any way shape or form for urban incidents.
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Fair call Big Bronto if the State Government is not going to have more full-time MFS stations with pumps then all the CFS stations on the urban fringe should have one decent pumper in each station.
Most have 34P's and they're fine for your average residental/car fire and carrying rescue gear but dont cut the mustard when required to boost. If this is the way it goes then these urban fringe brigades need decent pumpers to support into MFS and out to CFS areas.
I'm guessing another reason for leaving retained stations in place the CFS appliances out there are worse than the urban fringe CFS brigades with a lot of them being rural appliances only?
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wow....here i go again......
hmm, well in that area i reckon theres about 5 type 2 pumpers for a start....they are better than just ur average broken down old MFS Volvo for a start....yeah some of them blue boys out bush still use them as spares....or you might even get a ROSA.....now theres a prime appliance....
Get over ur blue penis envy boys..... CFS has a relatively modern and capable fleet for just about most events....even big arse fires like this one.....so we cant boost to an aerial....so what...there were 19 scanias there that could have, leaving the other stuff to others....just manage the resources u have....dont parrot on about wanting to waste money with a pump that we hardly ever need (nor do the MFS for that matter). Maybe between the 2 services we should have 6 BAPs (Big Arse Pumpers).....and outfit the MFS fleet with single hoseline 24s......cos thats all u need for alarm calls, bin fires and 90% of the calls they do....
Jaff.....pass the alfoil mate....this lot isnt working
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I agree with Cnd, it would be a large wast of money to buy more big pumpers and MFS crews to sit on there donkey and watch foxtell :-P. Many of Adelaide's stations aren't busy even by Australian standards. We can get a lot more out of the crews and trucks we currently have before we need to invest in many more stations.
to put a CFS spin on it, If we were to get enough appliances to easily fight the worst day ever we would need to cover the entire state with trucks, :-P
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I agree with Cnd, it would be a large wast of money to buy more big pumpers and MFS crews to sit on there filtered and watch foxtell :-P. Many of Adelaide's stations aren't busy even by Australian standards. We can get a lot more out of the crews and trucks we currently have before we need to invest in many more stations.
to put a CFS spin on it, If we were to get enough appliances to easily fight the worst day ever we would need to cover the entire state with trucks, :-P
They actually didnt need more appliances at the scene, they just needed more Firefighters on the scene.
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COQ from Murray Bridge/Tanunda/etc??? Ignoring the fact that those towns also have CFS anyway, who then goes COQ there and how long are you waiting for the COQ to be in place to town? So whats the differance...
Plus why pay retainees when theres plenty of CFS vollies who will give there right nut to go and play in town. You know we love it.
Anyway, if they were to update SFECs and supply equipment/training to fulfill them, there'd more than likely be a lot more than 20 urban pumpers coming.
Just my thoughts anyway.
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Anyway, if they were to update SFECs and supply equipment/training to fulfill them, there'd more than likely be a lot more than 20 urban pumpers coming.
Sorry Alex, Although I am not a moderator I have to pull you up on this one, If you are going to post please put it in the appropriate thread!!!!!!
Your last post belongs in the "Shiit that should happen.......but never will" thread,... Thanks in advance for your cooperation on this matter! :-D
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He he Crash and Dash.
No MFS envy here mate i'm paid and volunteer. Just saying there is a lot of urban fringe bridages that could benefit from a decent pumper not a hybrid 34P trying to do both roles.Plus decent size pumps are not just for boosting aerial appliances could have benefits both in CFS/MFS areas.
My station does a fair bit of COQ into MFS stations. One thing that does need to be captured especially for the CFS brigades that dont do it that often is making sure the CFS brigades understand the operations of MFS stations i.e. door access, how the traffic light system works (familiarisation session would cover it) and the training that CFS I think deliver now on Fire indication panels etc. (I forget the name and public safety module number but it's a good package to learn.
Anyway you still got to wait for that other MFS appliance coming from miles away with keys as we cant be trusted! :-o
Got to agree with you Alex why have other appliances passing ones sitting in stations, should not happen anywhere unless there is a specific risk a specialist appliance i.e. aerial or HAZMAT etc is required.
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He he Crash and Dash.
No MFS envy here mate i'm paid and volunteer. Just saying there is a lot of urban fringe bridages that could benefit from a decent pumper not a hybrid 34P trying to do both roles.Plus decent size pumps are not just for boosting aerial appliances could have benefits both in CFS/MFS areas.
My station does a fair bit of COQ into MFS stations. One thing that does need to be captured especially for the CFS brigades that dont do it that often is making sure the CFS brigades understand the operations of MFS stations i.e. door access, how the traffic light system works (familiarisation session would cover it) and the training that CFS I think deliver now on Fire indication panels etc. (I forget the name and public safety module number but it's a good package to learn.
Anyway you still got to wait for that other MFS appliance coming from miles away with keys as we cant be trusted! :-o
Got to agree with you Alex why have other appliances passing ones sitting in stations, should not happen anywhere unless there is a specific risk a specialist appliance i.e. aerial or HAZMAT etc is required.
yes I stand corrected Bundy....I'm all for attending the MFS Training Session on Opening Doors....I can see it would be of vital importance to the safe operation of the Station and how we couldnt possibly operate functionally without it....what a bunch of hicks we are sometimes. Here was I thinking we could just park on the apron out front and show off, I mean wave the CFS flag whilst showing solidarity and support to our blue brothers...<sigh> I need re-training obviously...can you tell me which day the roast is on in the Mess and I'll come down for a re-aquaint
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Good to see your only interested in taking the piss Crash. So no familiarisation of another agencies station is a good idea? of course it does not have any spin off affects as fostering a better working relationship and where I am it was an idea from one of there S/O's.
Plus putting CFS fire fighters through Check installed fire safety systems PUAFIR206B is not a good idea either I guess not.
I suppose we can just sit in our own little CFS bubble and not try and progress in any knowledge and when you go do a fire alarm and try and operate the FIP wouldn't it be a good idea to be proficent in it's use so you don't look like a hick!
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hmm, well in that area i reckon theres about 5 type 2 pumpers for a start....they are better than just ur average broken down old MFS Volvo for a start....
Is that fact, or opinion?
...and outfit the MFS fleet with single hoseline 24s......cos thats all u need for alarm calls, bin fires and 90% of the calls they do....
So with that logic, the CFS should only need a couple of rescue vehicles and a fleet of scooters that can be sent out to check if MVA's have persons trapped. We all know 90% of MVAs are clean up only...
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CFS should only need a fleet of scooters
SWEET!, make mine black with about 12 or so mirrors and a sheepskin seat cover, dont worry about getting me sandals or walk socks, I'll use my own! :wink:
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So with that logic, the CFS should only need a couple of rescue vehicles and a fleet of scooters that can be sent out to check if MVA's have persons trapped. We all know 90% of MVAs are clean up only...
lolol...u guys still couldn't get your scooter out of the door before anyone else...lolol
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Darts was fun.