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grabs the popcorn and settles in for the nights entertainment

If SAAS as the agency overseeing these things (on Healths behalf) is happy with single operator strecher transfer cases, then its all a moot point Rubbs. Sadly, operators will always scew up, I've seen similar things happen with SAAS crews in the bay at the RAH several times (and worse).

Remembering that AIMS is the Health SA wide system for reporting clinical and systemic issues, feel free to make your observations known to them officially (yes it can be anonymous) - but if you don't, you're just adding to the issue - your choice 

Just in case you feel the courage of your convictions - the number is 1800 668 439

The outcome of this will be intresting.

The issue for almost the entire victor harbour group is that the people live in teh town and the fire stations are out of the town. There has been intense recruitment advertising within victor for the last few years now. Perhaps putting a CFS station in or on the edge of the town would be a good move ending up with a similar system to say Woomera.

or...umm...like Port Lincoln? 

without getting into the whole slanging match....and I'm certainly not defending nurses...heaven forbid, but...

In terms of medications, paramedics, AOs, ICP and yes, even ECPs are in exactly the same boat as Nurses regards medications. They (the green types) are operating under a Medication Standing Order, underwritten by a Medical Officer (the big H in the case of SAAS). They do not have autonomous prescribing authority, they respond within a set of parameters (call them, oh I dont know - Clinical Guidelines or Protocols, depending on your flavour). Nurses; Enrolled, Registered and even the super Practitioner types, do exactly the same - it's just a more visible presence of the MO. Visit the RAH in emerg and see what the senior nurses there are giving....without referring directly to a MO, just like we do.

For my part....I just see it as a waste for an ambulance service to train and equip an ICP and then lose them again to learn nursie stuff, and have them cost the system double the price of a RN when they are working. Sure they are sometimes available to respond to Cat A's or sometimes Bs....but if they are being utilised efficiently, they will be up to their armpits in Grandpas catheter and drainage bag. Why would you pass that up for a run of the mill SOB?

If SAAS want to organise the system, great...dont care, but seriously, why dont we control the world and include dispatch and coordination for RDNS, and the whole ancillary home help network in the equation? The one stop home help shop....include key cutting and haberdashery and we will corner the market 

 At some stage....maybe we should concentrate on being the best Ambulance Service....goodness knows theres a few places to work on there first.

If you want to get seriously serious, and make real inputs into out of hospital outcomes, ....train them as Physician's Assistants but leave the nurse stuff to the nurses

Paramedics wanting to be Nurses?

Seriously, the stuff they do could be done by a Nurse who costs half the price (to pay and train)....not a criticism of the people, just a bit of a dabble in areas other than ours perhaps. But since we are all of the one family now, I guess Grandpa Health loves us for it...

NSW Ambulance and hospital system...there's a model to hold up as best practice.... not!

The current system sort of works ok. My only issue is the waste of a crews time waiting in Emerg waiting for a pt to come down. Tying up an emerg truck for 30-40 mins waiting for admin is ridiculous. While space is at a premium we all know, a holding area needs to be found so that when pts are booked, they can be there waiting when we arrive. We have suggested previously that if the pt doesnt arrive in 20 mins from our arrival, we will clear and return and the pt can be re-booked. Now that we are all part of the one happy (health) family, then it cant be too hard to find a solution for all

one day things will be smarter and you'll all be in the same fricken Group

hahahah.....bet you're not

Blackfoot, not with all the panache I could muster.....I've made comments on your service (?) before....in the interests of playing nicely with others, I wont repeat them again, but look under your thread and you'll see them

Darius if that is the case, then the article in the paper is a shameful blight on the CFSVA. How dare they use us, the Brigades, and the public support for us to push their own financial gain....truly ordinary

Vote 1: No confidence in self seeking (so-called) representatives

i actually have no problem with the ATOs ruling......last time I looked we were an Emergency Service...not a charity. I actually object to the CFSVA projecting me as a needy charity case and playing the poor hard done by volunteer all the time

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Again, just cos Joe Blow your Brigade Officer says you did it right, wont hold up in OHS court.....

If you read the letter correctly it says that a CFS Career Staff Member will be conducting the validation.

I think if you read your letter correctly....that is for the duration of the trial. Once the trial has concluded,
 "... any CFS Officer who is a current BA operator or an approved BA Trainer Assessor will be endorsed to validate the procedure

And while we're on it....seems like the process for the end of the trial is agreed and in place......is the trial a Dorothy Dixer and a forgone conclusion?