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Title: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 07, 2013, 12:23:42 PM
Hey guys and girls. This is my first post on this forum. I am looking at trying out for the SAMFS next year. I am 25 years of age and have a big fitness back ground. I have previously worked as a full time tradesman and now currently in Sales. I would love the opportunity to have a job that will be very. Challenging and different to a everyday job.

Was wondering if anyone have advice on what I should pre pair  myself for. I hear it is very difficult to get into the SAMFS. I am training extra hard with my fitness as I want to give the one shot and my best shot.

Any replies would be very appreciated.


Cheers all
Andrew
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 07, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
Hey guys and girls. This is my first post on this forum. I am looking at trying out for the SAMFS next year. I am 25 years of age and have a big fitness back ground. I have previously worked as a full time tradesman and now currently in Sales. I would love the opportunity to have a job that will be very. Challenging and different to a everyday job.

Was wondering if anyone have advice on what I should pre pair  myself for. I hear it is very difficult to get into the SAMFS. I am training extra hard with my fitness as I want to give the one shot and my best shot.

Any replies would be very appreciated.


Cheers all
Andrew


The fitness testing is not difficult, 9.6 beep test. The harder part is the aptitude testing and psych test. Having said that, the actual hard part of getting in to the MFS is the sheer number of applicants(sometimes 5-600) for maybe 18 or 36 spots generally
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 07, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
Yeah id be fine for the beep test. I normally run that at level 13.

What kind of things should I expect in the aptitude testing and psych test? Yeah iv heard a lot of people apply and very few get in. Its something I really want to get into so I want to fully ore pair for my self.

That you for the reply
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on December 08, 2013, 08:19:07 PM
Also, as has been said numerous times.............make sure you have all the pre-requesites because you won't even get past the application. It is all on the SAMFS website  :-)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 09, 2013, 06:16:59 AM
Yeah id be fine for the beep test. I normally run that at level 13.

What kind of things should I expect in the aptitude testing and psych test? Yeah iv heard a lot of people apply and very few get in. Its something I really want to get into so I want to fully ore pair for my self.

That you for the reply


Best advice would be to look at the example questions on the SAMFS website.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 09, 2013, 09:32:34 AM
Yeah I have all Minimum Requirements. Just going to keep training and training and training. Also been looking at all different Test IE the one on the site, Army site ones.

Thanks For your replies. Are you guys in the MFS?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on December 09, 2013, 03:34:14 PM
There used to be a book called "preparing for career selection tests" by Veera Freeman that was excellent for studying, research the samfs organization for if you get to the interview (different departments etc) and make sure you're ready, it's coming soon
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 09, 2013, 04:49:39 PM
There used to be a book called "preparing for career selection tests" by Veera Freeman that was excellent for studying, research the samfs organization for if you get to the interview (different departments etc) and make sure you're ready, it's coming soon

I would concentrate on the aptitude, if you start worrying about interview you may get ahead of yourself and be disappointed
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: gasman on December 09, 2013, 07:26:11 PM

I would concentrate on the aptitude, if you start worrying about interview you may get ahead of yourself and be disappointed
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Wiser words were never spoken!!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 10, 2013, 08:07:49 AM
Thanks Guys, I will try and get hold of this book.

What is the order of selections? How does it all work.
Is it possible to get in the first time? Its something iv always wanted to do and I have been training very hard to get to a high level fitness.

Bring on the Future :D
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 10, 2013, 09:34:53 AM
Thanks Guys, I will try and get hold of this book.

What is the order of selections? How does it all work.
Is it possible to get in the first time? Its something iv always wanted to do and I have been training very hard to get to a high level fitness.

Bring on the Future :D

Its all on the websire.
step 1. Apply- Mr truck and senior first aid
step 2. Beep test, 9.6 level once you reach 9.6 you stop, no prizes for 14.3
step 3. aptitude(mechanical,maths,grammar) and personality profiling
step 4. interview, they will generally pick about 100 to interview depending on the number of recruits they predict they may need. From the interview you will be "cab ranked" 1-100. As they do a drill squad they pick from the top down
step 5. Pat 2 test, firefighting simulated tests-tunnel crawl, hose hold, stair climb etc
step 6. Medical
step 7. Best job in the world
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 10, 2013, 01:46:16 PM
Lets hope I make it to the Step 7 :D

Thanks for the replies, Its making me really keen
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on December 10, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
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Thanks Guys, I will try and get hold of this book.

What is the order of selections? How does it all work.
Is it possible to get in the first time? Its something iv always wanted to do and I have been training very hard to get to a high level fitness.

Bring on the Future

Like Ferret says, it's all on the website.......

Yes, you can get in first time.
Fitness comes later on in the process, bar the pat 1 - shuttle run so I would concentrate on one step at a time.

Remember that there is normally a large amount of applicants so regardless of how good you think you might be, the process is designed to cull the numbers. Good luck  :-)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 11, 2013, 11:35:30 AM
Thanks all for the comments. Muchly helped. Going to start to focus on studying as fitness is my every day thing and is not a problem.

Hope to become one of you guys some day. And good luck to anyone else who applies
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on December 11, 2013, 11:51:27 AM
Ferret and flyonthewall I hope you are getting paid for every time you are having to tell people to see the website as it is getting a bit ridiculous hahaha (Not to be negative).

Although I hope I speak for everyone the information you guys have provided over the past couple of years has been really helpful, Thanks.

aclarky1988 I am right with you it will be my first time applying too.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 11, 2013, 12:32:58 PM
Good Luck FFGAZZ.

And thanks heaps guys. I know the website has a lot of information on it. But for some reason the website doesn't talk back when I ask it a question haha.

Appreciate this a lot. Im ganna give this everthing I have. Get the best job in the world :-)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on December 11, 2013, 02:43:48 PM
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Ferret and flyonthewall I hope you are getting paid for every time you are having to tell people to see the website as it is getting a bit ridiculous hahaha (Not to be negative).

Although I hope I speak for everyone the information you guys have provided over the past couple of years has been really helpful, Thanks.

aclarky1988 I am right with you it will be my first time applying too.

The process has changed a bit since I applied so I can't give any exact information about it now, that is why I suggest the website (which was not available when I was trying to get in so you are all lucky to have it to refer to). I went through the ups and downs of the process several times so I can understand the emotions.

Good luck to all applying  :-)


Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 11, 2013, 03:36:49 PM
Thanks Flyonthewall.

Are you now a member of the MFS?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on December 11, 2013, 08:03:43 PM
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Are you now a member of the MFS?

Yes
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 15, 2013, 07:40:00 AM
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Are you now a member of the MFS?

Yes

How long have you been with them? Did it take you many shots to get accepted?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on December 18, 2013, 10:57:08 PM
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How long have you been with them? Did it take you many shots to get accepted?

Over 10 yrs

4X 
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: gasman on December 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
I tried over a period of seven years, made the interview every time, got through the PAT 2 test easily once, never got a job offer. I have given up now but know plenty who have gone through the process and finally made it in. If I hadn't bulged multiple discs in my back last year I would probably trying again. Make sure you dot all the I's and cross all the T's. Good luck, stay positive and above all be as presentable as you can be at every stage. You are being watched every step of the way!!!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on December 21, 2013, 06:24:04 AM
I tried over a period of seven years, made the interview every time, got through the PAT 2 test easily once, never got a job offer. I have given up now but know plenty who have gone through the process and finally made it in. If I hadn't bulged multiple discs in my back last year I would probably trying again. Make sure you dot all the I's and cross all the T's. Good luck, stay positive and above all be as presentable as you can be at every stage. You are being watched every step of the way!!!

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BCrocker on December 21, 2013, 09:30:18 AM

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!

I got in first try, and of the 19 in my drill squad, 12 were first timers

Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 21, 2013, 11:50:20 AM
I tried over a period of seven years, made the interview every time, got through the PAT 2 test easily once, never got a job offer. I have given up now but know plenty who have gone through the process and finally made it in. If I hadn't bulged multiple discs in my back last year I would probably trying again. Make sure you dot all the I's and cross all the T's. Good luck, stay positive and above all be as presentable as you can be at every stage. You are being watched every step of the way!!!

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!

I think years ago there was an unwritten law that you didnt get in first time but this day and age they cannot discriminate in any way,
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on December 21, 2013, 11:52:12 AM

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!

I got in first try, and of the 19 in my drill squad, 12 were first timers

You are AWESOME!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 21, 2013, 12:56:34 PM

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!

I got in first try, and of the 19 in my drill squad, 12 were first timers

You are AWESOME!

Why was there 19 in squad?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: muscleandpluck on December 21, 2013, 03:19:03 PM
This happens occasionally, usually when someone from the previous squad fails to finish course due to injury, etc etc.
those who have tried and failed should know that there are a few who have tried 9 times and failed but had success on the 10th attempt.
I would be asking for feedback to improve on areas of weakness!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BCrocker on December 21, 2013, 04:08:14 PM
This happens occasionally, usually when someone from the previous squad fails to finish course due to injury, etc etc.

Spot on, got crook in week 11 of his squad, so came back in week 9 of ours to complete - 23 months later, once he was well
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BCrocker on December 21, 2013, 04:09:48 PM

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!

I got in first try, and of the 19 in my drill squad, 12 were first timers

You are AWESOME!

I know  :-P
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Sammy on December 21, 2013, 07:09:52 PM
I tried over a period of seven years, made the interview every time, got through the PAT 2 test easily once, never got a job offer. I have given up now but know plenty who have gone through the process and finally made it in. If I hadn't bulged multiple discs in my back last year I would probably trying again. Make sure you dot all the I's and cross all the T's. Good luck, stay positive and above all be as presentable as you can be at every stage. You are being watched every step of the way!!!

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!

I think years ago there was an unwritten law that you didnt get in first time but this day and age they cannot discriminate in any way, hence 50yr olds getting recruited.

What are your thoughts on discrimination towards personality types? I'm unsure how it works, but if you were to get in the top 10% of the aptitude testing, but not receive an invitation to an interview, just because your personality profile doesn't fit.
Does this happen?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 21, 2013, 07:49:08 PM
I tried over a period of seven years, made the interview every time, got through the PAT 2 test easily once, never got a job offer. I have given up now but know plenty who have gone through the process and finally made it in. If I hadn't bulged multiple discs in my back last year I would probably trying again. Make sure you dot all the I's and cross all the T's. Good luck, stay positive and above all be as presentable as you can be at every stage. You are being watched every step of the way!!!

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear you didn't get in and not good about your back.

Have many people got in first go that you know of? Im going to give it everything I have!!

I think years ago there was an unwritten law that you didnt get in first time but this day and age they cannot discriminate in any way, hence 50yr olds getting recruited.

What are your thoughts on discrimination towards personality types? I'm unsure how it works, but if you were to get in the top 10% of the aptitude testing, but not receive an invitation to an interview, just because your personality profile doesn't fit.
Does this happen?

The aptitude is pass/fail from what I know. The only ranking comes from the interview. Of course you need to be a certain personality, you are pretty much living with your crew and have to be able to handle certain situations.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 21, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
This happens occasionally, usually when someone from the previous squad fails to finish course due to injury, etc etc.
those who have tried and failed should know that there are a few who have tried 9 times and failed but had success on the 10th attempt.
I would be asking for feedback to improve on areas of weakness!

Ha ha. Good luck getting any individual feed back from mfs hr people that isnt a generic answer
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BCrocker on December 21, 2013, 08:52:45 PM

The aptitude is pass/fail from what I know. The only ranking comes from the interview. Of course you need to be a certain personality, you are pretty much living with your crew and have to be able to handle certain situations. As it is a few douce bags still slip through

There is one in every squad - don't be that one!   :-o :cry: :?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 22, 2013, 11:00:56 AM

The aptitude is pass/fail from what I know. The only ranking comes from the interview. Of course you need to be a certain personality, you are pretty much living with your crew and have to be able to handle certain situations. As it is a few douce bags still slip through

There is one in every squad - don't be that one!   :-o :cry: :?

Squad 41 had about 6 of them  8-)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on December 23, 2013, 07:15:29 AM


What are your thoughts on discrimination towards personality types? I'm unsure how it works, but if you were to get in the top 10% of the aptitude testing, but not receive an invitation to an interview, just because your personality profile doesn't fit.
Does this happen?

What personality type are you worried about being discriminated against?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 23, 2013, 09:09:20 AM


What are your thoughts on discrimination towards personality types? I'm unsure how it works, but if you were to get in the top 10% of the aptitude testing, but not receive an invitation to an interview, just because your personality profile doesn't fit.
Does this happen?

What personality type are you worried about being discriminated against?

Yeah we should take all the top aptitude results even if the person is all about themselves, doesnt fit in to a team and thinks theyre better than everyone else. That would work on the back of a truck,
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on December 23, 2013, 11:32:05 AM
Last week I was lucky enough to meet a retired MFS firefighter who spent 15 years as an recruitment officer and all the testing is pass/ fail, however due to the large number of people who apply guys are missing out by only .5% in testing by someone who scored better.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on December 23, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
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Thanks Guys, I will try and get hold of this book.

What is the order of selections? How does it all work.
Is it possible to get in the first time? Its something iv always wanted to do and I have been training very hard to get to a high level fitness.

Bring on the Future

Like Ferret says, it's all on the website.......

Yes, you can get in first time.
Fitness comes later on in the process, bar the pat 1 - shuttle run so I would concentrate on one step at a time.

Remember that there is normally a large amount of applicants so regardless of how good you think you might be, the process is designed to cull the numbers. Good luck  :-)

......what I said previously  :-)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 24, 2013, 04:29:22 AM
Last week I was lucky enough to meet a retired MFS firefighter who spent 15 years as an recruitment officer and all the testing is pass/ fail, however due to the large number of people who apply guys are missing out by only .5% in testing by someone who scored better.

How long had he been retired for??
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on December 24, 2013, 08:47:59 AM
I'm not sure Ferret I didn't get to ask the question but the way he was talking maybe around 5 years.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on December 24, 2013, 12:31:45 PM
Last week I was lucky enough to meet a retired MFS firefighter who spent 15 years as an recruitment officer and all the testing is pass/ fail, however due to the large number of people who apply guys are missing out by only .5% in testing by someone who scored better.

If it was a pass/fail how can people miss out by .5%? Wouldn't it have to be graded to have a percentage result?
The only sections that are now graded are the interview and the 'written test' which contains the standard maths, English, etc. questions and the aptitude test which is called psychometric profiling (all part of the one testing evolution).
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on December 24, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
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Last week I was lucky enough to meet a retired MFS firefighter who spent 15 years as an recruitment officer and all the testing is pass/ fail, however due to the large number of people who apply guys are missing out by only .5% in testing by someone who scored better.

When I joined, I believe the benchmark for the aptitude test was 90%+. There was also a different order of testing.............the aptitude test was after application and then the PAT 1.

Your comment is interesting FFGAZZ because there is not a recruitment officer as such. There are officers that may instruct one, two or maybe three recruit squads as part of their service requirements but I don't know of any that spent 15yrs doing it?

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If it was a pass/fail how can people miss out by .5%? Wouldn't it have to be graded to have a percentage result?
The only sections that are now graded are the interview and the 'written test' which contains the standard maths, English, etc. questions and the aptitude test which is called psychometric profiling (all part of the one testing evolution).

I'm sure FFGAZZ meant that people were missing out on getting to the interview by .5% after the 'phsycometric profiling'

After the interview, people are then 'ranked' in an order which determines the 'number' in which they are selected to progress.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 26, 2013, 08:14:30 AM
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Last week I was lucky enough to meet a retired MFS firefighter who spent 15 years as an recruitment officer and all the testing is pass/ fail, however due to the large number of people who apply guys are missing out by only .5% in testing by someone who scored better.

When I joined, I believe the benchmark for the aptitude test was 90%+. There was also a different order of testing.............the aptitude test was after application and then the PAT 1.

Your comment is interesting FFGAZZ because there is not a recruitment officer as such. There are officers that may instruct one, two or maybe three recruit squads as part of their service requirements but I don't know of any that spent 15yrs doing it?

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If it was a pass/fail how can people miss out by .5%? Wouldn't it have to be graded to have a percentage result?
The only sections that are now graded are the interview and the 'written test' which contains the standard maths, English, etc. questions and the aptitude test which is called psychometric profiling (all part of the one testing evolution).

I'm sure FFGAZZ meant that people were missing out on getting to the interview by .5% after the 'phsycometric profiling'

After the interview, people are then 'ranked' in an order which determines the 'number' in which they are selected to progress.

Its not like a firey to exaggerate... 15yrs, maybe he meant months?? There is no point worrying about how the process works, just turn up, do your best and wait for info on the next stage. They give you no useful feedback all way thru.
If you turn up and fail the pat1 then you are an absolute spud, its the only stage you can practice and know you can pass.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on December 26, 2013, 09:27:28 AM
Sorry guys I didn't get to speak to the guy very long so I can't give exact detail, he did mention when he was a recruitment officer it was before private recruitment companies were involved (I'm guessing Locher) so it may have been 20 years ago and the info may be useless.

If they did interviews over the phone I wonder if they would change the process then as Airservices Australia do their process as follows:

1) Application,
2) Maths, English and Psych tests online,
3) Phone interview,
4) Pat 1, Pat 2 equivalent, medical and interview with recruitment board on one day.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on December 26, 2013, 10:10:03 AM
Sorry guys I didn't get to speak to the guy very long so I can't give exact detail, he did mention when he was a recruitment officer it was before private recruitment companies were involved (I'm guessing Locher) so it may have been 20 years ago and the info may be useless.

If they did interviews over the phone I wonder if they would change the process then as Airservices Australia do their process as follows:

1) Application,
2) Maths, English and Psych tests online,
3) Phone interview,
4) Pat 1, Pat 2 equivalent, medical and interview with recruitment board on one day.

The only advantage of the initial phone interview would be to reduce the numbers and time for all the other tests. I doubt the process will change much. Maybe Interview format may vary like they do every few years
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 07, 2014, 06:52:43 PM
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Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: aclarky1988 on January 08, 2014, 09:30:33 AM
W

I spoke with an Army trainer yesterday who is training three guys to try for MFS and he had heard there will be 3 intakes this year.

Who else is training hard and getting keen to try out?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 08, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
W

I spoke with an Army trainer yesterday who is training three guys to try for MFS and he had heard there will be 3 intakes this year.

Who else is training hard and getting keen to try out?

Yeah cos he would know.....
Cant see there being 54 retirements
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 08, 2014, 11:22:24 AM
W

I spoke with an Army trainer yesterday who is training three guys to try for MFS and he had heard there will be 3 intakes this year.

Who else is training hard and getting keen to try out?

Yeah cos he would know.....
Cant see there being 54 retirements

Lol,

Only thing you can be semi certain on is that their could be one drill squad within 12 months because SAFECOM had put a budget line down for it. Like all government departments if you don't spend your budget it will get cut but in saying that if their haven't been many retirements and guys still floating around as fill ins from the last drill squad it would be lucky to have one drill squad let alone a second one next year if the state election has any effect on funding or retirements.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 08, 2014, 11:54:08 AM
W

I spoke with an Army trainer yesterday who is training three guys to try for MFS and he had heard there will be 3 intakes this year.

Who else is training hard and getting keen to try out?

Yeah cos he would know.....
Cant see there being 54 retirements

Lol,

Only thing you can be semi certain on is that their could be one drill squad within 12 months because SAFECOM had put a budget line down for it. Like all government departments if you don't spend your budget it will get cut but in saying that if their haven't been many retirements and guys still floating around as fill ins from the last drill squad it would be lucky to have one drill squad let alone a second one next year if the state election has any effect on funding or retirements.

Are they doing physical training with Army guy?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on January 08, 2014, 05:44:45 PM
Given that it takes over 30 weeks to make a cab rank, they would have to run simultaneous squads to do more than one this year, which would be more than difficult due to lack of resources (appliances, Brukunga time etc.)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BCrocker on January 08, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
Given that it takes over 30 weeks to make a cab rank, they would have to run simultaneous squads to do more than one this year, which would be more than difficult due to lack of resources (appliances, Brukunga time etc.)

Done it before - had 2 squads running, one started 6 weeks after the other.  in 2009 if i remember correctly.
Brukunga - easy, SAMFS just need to book it for the week.  in fact they book Brukunga first, then build the start date from that.
Appliances - no problem, there are 4 training appliances @ APTC, or Engineering, and some (5GP's, and 3 Rescue) in the relief fleet that could be used
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 08, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
Given that it takes over 30 weeks to make a cab rank, they would have to run simultaneous squads to do more than one this year, which would be more than difficult due to lack of resources (appliances, Brukunga time etc.)

Done it before - had 2 squads running, one started 6 weeks after the other.  in 2009 if i remember correctly.
Brukunga - easy, SAMFS just need to book it for the week.  in fact they book Brukunga first, then build the start date from that.
Appliances - no problem, there are 4 training appliances @ APTC, or Engineering, and some (5GP's, and 3 Rescue) in the relief fleet that could be used

The have run squads with the 6 week over lap plenty of times. I think they will run one and then see how many retire mid year. Just because safecom have budget for drill squad doesn't mean they have funding for extra staff if no one retires.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 08, 2014, 06:22:04 PM
Given that it takes over 30 weeks to make a cab rank, they would have to run simultaneous squads to do more than one this year, which would be more than difficult due to lack of resources (appliances, Brukunga time etc.)

From the way I hear they may recruit this year it will be a lot less than 30 weeks to have a cab rank ready 
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on January 08, 2014, 07:38:35 PM
Given that it takes over 30 weeks to make a cab rank, they would have to run simultaneous squads to do more than one this year, which would be more than difficult due to lack of resources (appliances, Brukunga time etc.)

Done it before - had 2 squads running, one started 6 weeks after the other.  in 2009 if i remember correctly.
Brukunga - easy, SAMFS just need to book it for the week.  in fact they book Brukunga first, then build the start date from that.
Appliances - no problem, there are 4 training appliances @ APTC, or Engineering, and some (5GP's, and 3 Rescue) in the relief fleet that could be used

Have you got anymore jokes?

Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 09, 2014, 08:48:13 AM
With the rumour mill in full flight has anyone actually heard anything if the recruitment process is starting next week, next month or 6 months time?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on January 09, 2014, 05:00:21 PM
The recruitment officers still don't know when things will kick off...
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 10, 2014, 04:28:32 AM
The recruitment officers still don't know when things will kick off...

Check tomorrows paper
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 10, 2014, 08:48:37 AM
The recruitment officers still don't know when things will kick off...

Check tomorrows paper

The MFS recruits on a needs basis and at this time it is not known when we will next recruit.

You are therefore encouraged to regularly monitor this website for any updates.

Doesnt sound like anytime soon, change on SAMFS website
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 10, 2014, 09:38:06 AM
Is it a play on words by HR though as it does say regularly monitor the website and no date set when to monitor like normally.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BT085 on January 10, 2014, 12:05:50 PM
All the speculation is hilarious... I fell into the trap of listening to it all 3 years ago when I had a crack first time.. No-one ends up being right, despite the interesting discussion. I highly recommend if anyone is interested to do the old fashioned approach and ring and have a chat with the head of HR.. He was very open to me, had a good chat for 10 mins about all things recruitment. (This was 3 days ago)  I used to speak to Mara Ferret? Is she no longer with MFS?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 10, 2014, 01:07:33 PM
All the speculation is hilarious... I fell into the trap of listening to it all 3 years ago when I had a crack first time.. No-one ends up being right, despite the interesting discussion. I highly recommend if anyone is interested to do the old fashioned approach and ring and have a chat with the head of HR.. He was very open to me, had a good chat for 10 mins about all things recruitment. (This was 3 days ago)  I used to speak to Mara Ferret? Is she no longer with MFS?

Did he know what was going on?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BT085 on January 10, 2014, 02:20:17 PM
In a nutshell he said "yes" recruitment will happen "this year", hinted further that there will be an update to website end of January. This discussion happened before the site was updated a day ago. So according to him there should be another update later this month.. He couldn't tell me too much , but I was getting more info from him than just relying on website updates and speculation. Speculation is good fun tho- keep everyone excited I guess!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 15, 2014, 09:16:19 PM
Website has been updated again,

The MFS recruits on a needs basis.  It is currently unknown as to when the next recruitment campaign will commence.

You are therefore encouraged to regularly monitor this website for any updates.

Applications for full time firefighters are only accepted during an active recruitment campaign.

Care has been taken to ensure that this website provides you with all the information you will require.  We therefore ask that you please ensure that you have read all the information provided.

Telephone inquiries will be referred back to this website where necessary.           

How obvious do they have to make it?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Al on January 21, 2014, 02:32:39 PM
Hey guys, just reading the initial posts talking about the process and had a quick question... is there much point to the initial resume you send in to Locher? If it is all pass/ fail till the interview stage, do they read it and can it influence your ranking? I'm just curious if it's worth spending heaps of time on?

Do they call all referees? By that time you'd be at the medical stage and pretty much in right?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 21, 2014, 06:37:06 PM
Hey guys, just reading the initial posts talking about the process and had a quick question... is there much point to the initial resume you send in to Locher? If it is all pass/ fail till the interview stage, do they read it and can it influence your ranking? I'm just curious if it's worth spending heaps of time on?

Do they call all referees? By that time you'd be at the medical stage and pretty much in right?


They ring the referees last so you would have to get an absolute grilling from your reference to miss out.
The mfs are ruthless throughout the whole process, looking to cull numbers any chance they get so make sure you dot your I's and cross your t's
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on January 21, 2014, 08:18:06 PM
Hey guys, just reading the initial posts talking about the process and had a quick question... is there much point to the initial resume you send in to Locher? If it is all pass/ fail till the interview stage, do they read it and can it influence your ranking? I'm just curious if it's worth spending heaps of time on?

Do they call all referees? By that time you'd be at the medical stage and pretty much in right?


You are joking aren't you?  :?
I don't know how many times it needs to be spelled out........any chance to cull the numbers will be taken.

When I joined, I was asked to bring two resume'/CV's along to the interview. I printed out two, went to my interview, handed them in and was given one back immediately. Nothing was said, I didn't ask any questions about it and somehow I think it was a test?..............I don't know why and never will.


Most times, I believe, more people are tested than required so there is a 'pool' of candidates after the testing has been done, should more be needed for any reason. This does not guarantee you are 'in' so getting a medical is just another part of the selection process which may/may not tick another box.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Al on January 22, 2014, 05:11:31 PM
I was just trying to ask if the resume is pass/ fail or a part of what gets you cab ranked. Sorry if I asked the question in a weird way. No need to go all keyboard warrior on me  :-)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: JLS on January 22, 2014, 06:03:53 PM
I would put as much as you can for each process and not think it is only a beep test or a resume etc because they look at everything you do and how you conduct yourself. You don't want to get to the end and miss out by one or two spots and think I should have put more effort in somewhere. Just my opinion anyway. They might even be watching this forum!!!!
Good luck to all when it finally happens.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on January 22, 2014, 07:29:01 PM
I was just trying to ask if the resume is pass/ fail or a part of what gets you cab ranked. Sorry if I asked the question in a weird way. No need to go all keyboard warrior on me  :-)

Sorry if you took it that way, 'keyboard warrior' was not intended as such  :?

.......... best of luck with it then.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 23, 2014, 11:57:42 AM
I was just trying to ask if the resume is pass/ fail or a part of what gets you cab ranked. Sorry if I asked the question in a weird way. No need to go all keyboard warrior on me  :-)

. Apparently the only ranking is from the interview. Dont read too much into the process, it is a game of luck at the end.
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Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Al on January 24, 2014, 05:15:36 PM
Thanks guys. I am sure a lot of people read this and appreciate all of your understandings as to how it all works. My resume will be awesome regardless, I was more wondering about the process which is pretty confusing hey?

Anyway cheers... maybe more to come post March election??
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 24, 2014, 05:59:23 PM
Was told today the advertisement was ment to come out last Saturday but due to so many deployments it was post-poned, still talk of their being phone interviews.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 24, 2014, 06:27:07 PM
Was told today the advertisement was ment to come out last Saturday but due to so many deployments it was post-poned, still talk of their being phone interviews.

They have tried to outsource recruitment in other states with terrible results
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 24, 2014, 07:46:11 PM
I second that.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 31, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
I'm curious to know as MFS have a marine vessel is their any water training during the recruit course?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 31, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
I'm curious to know as MFS have a marine vessel is their any water training during the recruit course?

You go out on the fire boat "Gallantry" one day during recruit course, just a cruise in the Port river and they squirt some water.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on January 31, 2014, 01:46:08 PM
I'm curious to know as MFS have a marine vessel is their any water training during the recruit course?

Yes, there is some water training during the recruit course but it dosen't involve the marine vessel, it involves the STAR group Police officers........ well at least it did, I don't know about now  :-o .... LOL  :-P
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on January 31, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
I'm curious to know as MFS have a marine vessel is their any water training during the recruit course?

Yes, there is some water training during the recruit course but it dosen't involve the marine vessel, it involves the STAR group Police officers........ well at least it did, I don't know about now  :-o .... LOL  :-P

No more STAR force days
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Rusty Rara on February 11, 2014, 08:18:36 AM
Hey all, any rumours of when the application process might start?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on February 11, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
Hey all, any rumours of when the application process might start?

I hear it may not be for quite a while
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on February 11, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
Hey all, any rumours of when the application process might start?

I hear it may not be for quite a while

I can confirm that.
No one really knows.............!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Al on February 14, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Which State Government is kinder to the MFS...? ie who should I vote for because they will give me a better opportunity to get in? Or are they all the same?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on February 15, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
Which State Government is kinder to the MFS...? ie who should I vote for because they will give me a better opportunity to get in? Or are they all the same?

Definitely not Liberal
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on March 06, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
Massive rumour going around that there will be no drill squad this year
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BT085 on May 31, 2014, 10:27:15 AM
Any latest whispers ferret? I guess determined by upcoming release of state budget ...
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on June 02, 2014, 12:36:59 AM
There's a review being done to update recruit training information and current teachings.

Could it mean something is in the works?.............Don't know  :?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on June 10, 2014, 12:49:50 PM
Everyone noticed their is a new PID plus MFS took delivery of 5 new pumpers so they should have some available for training. I guess it comes back to funding, the number of retirements and trainers available.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on June 10, 2014, 02:04:38 PM
Everyone noticed their is a new PID plus MFS took delivery of 5 new pumpers so they should have some available for training. I guess it comes back to funding, the number of retirements and trainers available.

Pretty sure they had trucks available for training before the arrival of the new appliances. Its not the first drill squad they have ever run...
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Pipster on June 10, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
The Pumpers were funded from previous budgets - and they, I believe, have been delivered much later than originally planned.

Pip
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BCrocker on June 11, 2014, 01:21:28 PM
Any latest whispers ferret? I guess determined by upcoming release of state budget ...

Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BT085 on June 13, 2014, 08:32:27 PM
Who is "they"?
I've heard this many times before unfort!
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on June 27, 2014, 10:03:00 AM
'They' are the voices in his head. T.M. 33B.
Nothing has been set as yet. the real 'They' are hoping to get something happening soon. The recruit training guys still don't know anything as yet.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: BT085 on June 27, 2014, 05:07:01 PM
His comment has disappeared anyway haha
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: pumprescue on June 29, 2014, 05:13:53 PM
No recruit course this year
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on June 30, 2014, 08:56:07 AM
No recruit course this year

But they may start an application process this year?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Krank on June 30, 2014, 11:29:43 AM
Definitely no course this year. Possible cab rank by Christmas for course start in early 2015
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: pumprescue on June 30, 2014, 05:48:45 PM
Yeah maybe, see what happens
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on July 03, 2014, 11:49:47 AM
Although it could be possible the MFS could recruit later in the year they usually update the website advising they are recruiting in the near future a month or two before hand so unless they update it over the next couple of weeks it would make sense they update the website in September for applications in January/ February, as that's what they have previously done anyway.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: Monger on July 22, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
http://www.firerecruitmentaustralia.com/ (http://www.firerecruitmentaustralia.com/)

Any of you guys looked into this material?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on August 25, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
Anyone heard applications opening soon for a January intake?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on August 26, 2014, 12:04:19 AM
Heard that there is supposed to have been a recruitment drive sometime in 2014 but when.......dunno?

.....If the chief gets his way, there will be no more drill squads, just 'on the job' training for potential firefighters..........but the Union says that it definitely ain't going to happen that way.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on October 28, 2014, 10:21:59 AM
So the website states applications will open mid November.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on November 04, 2014, 04:45:01 PM
Alright who is going to give it a crack? This will be my first shot.
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: crossy on November 04, 2014, 05:19:58 PM
Ill give it a go.. Will be my second attempt
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: FF GAZZ on November 05, 2014, 09:56:09 AM
Ill give it a go.. Will be my second attempt

How far did you get last time crossy?
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: crossy on November 05, 2014, 06:19:06 PM
Didn't make it past aptitude tests last time.. I didn't really expect to make it that far last time either though haha. Far better prepared this time so see how we go  :-)
Title: Re: 2014 Recruitment
Post by: flyonthewall on November 11, 2014, 08:02:35 PM
15 Nov for advertisement