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General Discussion => Other Government Agencies => Topic started by: bajdas on December 19, 2005, 02:26:52 PM
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I have seen publicity that Kingston SE now has a co-located headquarters building for SES and CFS. The hedaquarters has three truck bays per organisation. The shared training, amenities and admin areas are a great idea.
I have completed an SES State Training course in the shared headquarters of Port Elliott CFS and South Coast SES. The facilities seemed to work very well.
I know that SES Central (Mt Barker) and Northern (Pt Augusta) regional headquarters are shared facilities with CFS and others
Other than those mentioned above, where are the other shared facilities in South Australia ?
I do not believe any issues exist with both volunteer organisations, but does anybody share with SAAS or MFS or SAPOL paid staff ?
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Lobethal CFS runs an SES rescue truck.
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I suspect Riverland area and Murray Bridge have co-located Headquarter buildings. Not confirmed though.
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south coast ses / pt elliot cfs
coromandel cfs / sturt ses
heaps of vollie ambos and cfs
pt wakefield cfs / ambos??? (unsure this one)
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Hi there
Roxby Downs CFS & Roxby Downs SES
Andamooka CFS & Andamooka SES.
Quorn CFS & Quorn SES
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As of Tuesday (20th) Strath SES & Strath CFS, until their new CFS station is finished.
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eh??
strath always used to be togerther... but word is they all got very upset one day... and split up.
issues with RCR etc i believe
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long story.
yes they were together, and yes some people got very upset. not the crew, just the people in charge. hence SES moved out of the joint Station to the old ETSA depot.
Now the "old" cfs station is being demolished as we speak to be turned into woolworths, and since the new CFS station is an ongoing issue...... the current heads of service came to an agreement.
Plenty of space on the SES site, pity the new CFS station wasnt there!
Hopefully it leads to an even better working relationship between them. But I think the "repair process" will be ongoing for a long time to come yet.
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WHAT THE HELL???
the fire station is being demolished to make way for woolworths????
i sure hope woolworths are footing the bill
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it was on council owned land...
council put in some money, cfs the rest.
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thats crap.... (cfs having to foot part of the bill.)
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Believe Yankalilla CFS / SES are co-located.
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From the current Pt Lincoln Times - it would appear that MFS are above the rest of us :x
THE Metropolitan Fire Service has unveiled concept plans for its new Port Lincoln station on St Andrews Terrace. The station, which will include facilities for 24/7 staffing, is expected to be up and running within five years.
The proposal has highlighted the potential for an emergency services centre with the Country Fire Service and State Emergency Service registering interest to work side by side at the same site.
In a presentation to the Port Lincoln council on Monday night MFS strategic services manager Don Cranwell said the MFS was supportive of co-siting but it was a decision to be made by the individual services.
However a joint use facility with CFS or SES was not an option, Mr Cranwell said.
"What we're not supportive of is anything that interferes with a dedicated MFS facility.
"Sharing the same facility doesn't work."
In this day and age, it's about time that bureaucrats like donny cranwell were told to pull their heads in!
Interesting to note that the Region 6 office had been looking for a new site, to allow them to expand and meet their needs - what an ideal opportunity and an ideal way to build the best possible with TAX PAYERS money :-o
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Region Three Headqaurters in Murray Bridge houses the SES head honcho.
Definate disadvantages. Guess the advantages are economic, can't really think of any others. Although the VSO there serves both organisations so I guess that is handy for organisational leaders.
The office used to be stunning example of a volunteer friendly environment with a volunteer lounge/tea/coffee/water facilities, fire/rescue library.
I guess in the interests of efficiency, it is now a place you would avoid like the plague, complete with counter to ceiling bars separating the staff from it's onery clients.
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Renmark SES and MFS share a building - the main problem there was the cost of the facility as everyone felt that in the long run it would have been cheaper to build two separate facilites...
I agree with the comments about "less volunteer friendly facilities" as that is certainly the case at Mt Barker, where all volunteers have to sign in, have a visitor's pass and rely on paid staff to let them in. The (security) complications when we attend the Regional Ops Centre to assist are (to me) incomprehensible.
We (at Adelaide Hills SES) are supposed to be co-locating with St Johns - which will benefit both organisations - but this process appears to be in trouble due to the delays in getting a block of land.
Play safe kiddies
Chatty
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Region Three Headqaurters in Murray Bridge houses the SES head honcho.
Definate disadvantages. Guess the advantages are economic, can't really think of any others. Although the VSO there serves both organisations so I guess that is handy for organisational leaders.
The office used to be stunning example of a volunteer friendly environment with a volunteer lounge/tea/coffee/water facilities, fire/rescue library.
I guess in the interests of efficiency, it is now a place you would avoid like the plague, complete with counter to ceiling bars separating the staff from it's onery clients.
Not any more Kat.
The SES heads have moved to Mount Barker. The SES signs have all been removed from the building (you can still see the silastic where they used to be).
Not sure of the reason!!
Adam.
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SES shrunk the number of Regions within the South Australia from 8 to 4 many months ago. Paid staff were re-allocated to positions so that five plus staff now operate from the one region office.
The security arrangements seem to be in place in the Mt Barker and Adelaide offices of CFS. I understand the reasoning was that members of the public had become abusive in the office area, so security was tightened during office hours.
Unsure if the security arrangements are in place in other offices.
I could be wrong, but that is what I was told when I have to sign-in multiple times when called in..
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This is slightly off topic, but why did they shrink the Regions? Was this for better efficiency, or are the powers trying to shrink the size of the SASES?
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I understand the reduction in SES regions is part of the changes implemented by the new Chief and is for better efficiency.
Personally I think SES in SA is growing, not shrinking.
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How long ago did the SES move out of CFS R3 HQ?
The only thing that has made me feel the slightest bit abusive in sixteen years of visiting Regional HQ is the counter to ceiling bars :-)
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Kat the counter to ceiling bars could be an advantage - it may keep them in - make it safer for the community lol :evil:
Regarding signing in - I know at my workplace we have this due to OH&S and the requirments there - however I can't see the need for a grilling when you attend the offices - they are meant to be volunteer friendly!
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SES and CFS photo ID badges have made access to offices easier. Especially the bright lanyards which help identify you as a volunteer.
Still need to sign-in at security, then the Unit sign-in book at each call-out to an office.
I believe though the issue of the clear security screens or security bars at reception was protecting staff from the angry public. Not anything to do with volunteers.
Hopefully someone can confirm this.
But if a fire evacuation of headquarters was required, without sign-in books you would not know that everyone is out of the building.
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How long ago did the SES move out of CFS R3 HQ?
At a guess about four or five months ago.
Adam.
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Hey Kat,wait till you visit region 5 H/Q it looks like the inside of a high tech police station with its new fully enclosed front office. Our VSO works from the region H/Q at naracoorte 3 days week and in the SES h/q in the mount...
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Good point Ozfire.
ROFL :-D :-D :-D :-D
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Some people need to get out of their own insulated areas more SES moved out of R3 HQ back in @ least March 05 when they moved to Mt Barker.
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Yes well the Region Three Office used to be a great volunteer friendly resource that we visited often but I haven't had cause or inclination to visit since at least March 05 :-)
And where the SES house their paid staff has no impact on me :wink:
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Common on Kat ........ maybe it has changed, maybe it's now welcoming, volunteer friendly, theres probally coffee on tap, some nice biscuits to eat, friendly staff to chat too, who being volunteer focused would happily sit down for a discussion and to assist you, the brigade, the group to resolve issues!
After all, it's been twelve month (almost) surely something might have changed????
As for the SES moving out - that was disapointing, thought the two service working closer together was a good thing - it probally is in Mt Barker :wink:
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welcoming, volunteer friendly, theres probally coffee on tap, some nice biscuits to eat, friendly staff to chat too, who being volunteer focused would happily sit down for a discussion and to assist you, the brigade, the group resolve issues!
Ahh, those were the days. Brings a tear of nostalgia to the eye. :wink:
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As of Tuesday (20th) Strath SES & Strath CFS, until their new CFS station is finished.
As of next Wednesday (22nd of February) Strathalbyn will finally be opertaing out of their new station.
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Just curious where in relation to the old strath station is the new one??
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Their new station is in between the council depot and the dump - Forrest Rd. Hopefully the transition for them goes smoothly.
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Cheers Mike
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apparently they have moved in tonight
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and they have a new hazmat trailer,anyone got a picture of it???
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No pic of HAZMAT van but heres a pic of their station from the promo site
(http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/photos/sacfs-stbn-stn1.jpg)
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Just wondering if theres anyone from strath or know anyone from there , I'd just like to know if the new station will increase/decrease response times or will be about the same??
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And are they happy with the station? It appears to be a clone of the standard CFS 3 bay station which from what I undertsand is pretty basic...
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And are they happy with the station? It appears to be a clone of the standard CFS 3 bay station which from what I undertsand is pretty basic...
The Strathalbyn Brigade/Group (Group base) is quite happy with the new set-up they now have.
I would imagine that due to the new position of Strath's station compared to the old one, response times for them would increase slightly, but hopefully not too much!
The new CFS stations that are currently being built are actually quite nice although for most brigades, they would probably be a step down in terms of size and space.
I believe Stirling may be inline for a new station somewhere closer to Crafers if the sale of the land where they currently reside goes ahead.
And yes, Strathalbyn did receive a new HAZMAT trailer, which from my understanding will carry their HAZMAT equipment along with additional 'Region 1' equipment, including several gas tight suits and other non-standard gear. I imagine some pictures will be posted when it is set up properly and operational.
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On page one of this thread was a posting regards MFS Port Lincoln building a new station. Found this article today (printed a month ago).
If this goes ahead the building would be huge and I think the first where all three emergency services (incl regional HQ) are located in the one spot.
From: http://portlincoln.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=general&story_id=487510&category=General&m=6&y=2006
Emergency services at one location
Billie Harrison
Thursday, 15 June 2006
CONCEPT plans for co-locating the Country Fire Service and State Emergency Service in Port Lincoln are about to be drawn up.
The CFS and SES are looking at establishing a central emergency services site, including the Metropolitan Fire Service at the old netball courts on Stevenson Street.
Last Wednesday, representatives of the SA Fire and Emergency Services Commission met with the Port Lincoln CFS and SES in Port Lincoln to identify operational requirements for a proposed new facility.
It is proposed to co-locate the local CFS, SES and MFS brigades and units together with the CFS/SES regional office on one site.
The Metropolitan Fire Service had already presented concept plans to the city council for a new station at the site.
The Port Lincoln council had already approved 5723 square metres of the site for a new MFS station and gave "in principle" support to a combined emergency services centre concept in February.
The South Australian Fire and Emergency Services Commission will prepare the initial concept plans for the CFS SES facility, which will be available for public consultation.
The Port Lincoln Callisthenics Association currently has an 18-month lease on the old netball clubrooms on the land.
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did i read that correclty??? MFS and CFS in the same station? wow thats insane... not only two fireservices in the same town, but in the same station too... good luck with it, sounds good... perhaps a step closer to one fire service in that are? but i doubt that... im talking to myself again...
re; strathalbyn response times due to the new station, i believe it has dramatically INCREASED them... especially when responding to incidents in the town itself, and of course over the other side.
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"aw c'mon let us take the red truck out, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease :-)"
'no!'
"c'mon buddy, pleeeeease pretty pretty pretty please :-D"
'let me think about that................noooo'
"mate, were all firefighters here, we want to ride the red truck, please please please please? :-D :-"
'well, ummm, no, no go and respond to that tree down that we dont want to do in case something more important comes up'
:roll:
relax, it is just a satirical send up of what youre all thinking :-P
*and for those with no sense of humour and take the board for gospel and seriousness, I am making a joke :mrgreen:
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*and for those with no sense of humour and take the board for gospel and seriousness, I am making a joke :mrgreen:
i thought all this info was official CFS releases?
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:lol: nice one medevac
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No top secret don't show :lol:
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and they have a new hazmat trailer,anyone got a picture of it???
from the promotions site
(http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/photos/sacfs-stbn-trl.jpg)
photo cred; Simon Patterson
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We've had the trailer down our way a couple times in the last few months for jobs... a very nicely setup trailer towed by the 14 and backed up with their 34, from my point of view good job with the trailer.