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General Discussion => SAAS => Topic started by: JW on December 07, 2009, 10:24:34 PM
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Hi guys
SA Ambulance Service has a couple of new clips on YouTube I’d love you to check out! They are about the new Single Paramedics Response INTervention (SPRINT) and bicycle paramedics out and about in metro Adelaide.
We’re trying to raise awareness about the changing face of ambulance services and that even thought these cars and bikes don’t look like a ‘normal’ ambulance, they are still on their way to an emergency and people need to move out the way.
I’d love your help spreading the message!
You can check out the clips at www.youtube.com/user/saambulanceservice (http://www.youtube.com/user/saambulanceservice)
Cheers
JW
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lol- nice to see a gov't dept catching up with marketing campaigns that bear some relativity to what we do! ....And viral marketing too...who would have thought?? Has SAAS finally lifted their game and gotten some real people in their marketing dept?? BRAVO!
...and I guess 12 months after it's been put on the road it is still something 'new'. Better late than never!!!
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It is pretty good to see that SAAS are taking a fairly modern approach to getting their messages and info out there, however I feel that people have trouble giving way to normal sized Ambulances let alone these new ones. Too many times have I seen idiots just race in front of an Ambulance entering an intersection. I think that there needs to be more hard hitting advertising to bring peoples attention around. Perhaps SAPOL can allow Ambulances to be fitted with cameras which Paramedics can use to report people who blatantly don't give way?
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It is pretty good to see that SAAS are taking a fairly modern approach to getting their messages and info out there, however I feel that people have trouble giving way to normal sized Ambulances let alone these new ones. Too many times have I seen idiots just race in front of an Ambulance entering an intersection. I think that there needs to be more hard hitting advertising to bring peoples attention around. Perhaps SAPOL can allow Ambulances to be fitted with cameras which Paramedics can use to report people who blatantly don't give way?
And maybe mount .50cal weapons on the front of the ambulance for serial offenders, the bright side of the situation would be medical attention would be close at hand! :-D
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If you want small and fast ambulances how about going back to this type :-D
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It is pretty good to see that SAAS are taking a fairly modern approach to getting their messages and info out there, however I feel that people have trouble giving way to normal sized Ambulances let alone these new ones. Too many times have I seen idiots just race in front of an Ambulance entering an intersection. I think that there needs to be more hard hitting advertising to bring peoples attention around. Perhaps SAPOL can allow Ambulances to be fitted with cameras which Paramedics can use to report people who blatantly don't give way?
Where's the money going to come from?
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Just received a registration renewal notice for a car and advertising material was included about moving 'out of the way' for the pushbikes & SPRINT SAAS vehicles.
Certainly an extensive media campaign.
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The cameras would eventually pay for themselves. They dont have to be mounted in all trucks, just metropolitan ones where I believe most of these issues would occur.
And yes, I saw the SPRINT flyers in the rego letters too.
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I dont think approval would be needed from SAPol? Just an in service SAAS thing really. But having video evidence of people failing to yield would be nice... would be nice in a few MFS/CFS trucks around the place as well....
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Bugger the cameras just have metal nudge bars on the front of the sprint vehicles instead :-D
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I know this is an old topic but are there SPRINT cars in volunteer stations and full time stations like Whyalla, Port Lincoln, Port Augusta, Renmark, Berri, Victor, Goolwa ect?
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ah, Goolwa isn't full time, and yes, most busy stations do run a SPRINT team. Usually classed with 500 or 40 or 1; ie V500 (usually an 18:00 start), V40 (also sporting standby), or V1.This is an example for Victor Harbor, who are classed as V.
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I think most paid country stations run their SPRINT team nightly or daily but you don't see them paged. That's something I heard from a guy who was in SAAS.
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V500 usually operates out of an Ambulance not a SPRINT car and is usually a spare team member. Essentially operates uner the same idea as SPRINT.
a 40 call sign usually means its a not operational crew. EG, an RTL with Cert II students on board doing some driving can use the call sign 'ST40' for example. They can be called upon to help if required but they aren't actively seeking jobs so to speak.
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Yeah sorry about that. A VTL operates from Strathalbyn and can work in the South Coast too. Call sign is OC9.
(Cheers to Alan; courtesy of info provided by him via Ozfire :-D, thanks mate)
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a cert II and cert IV can crew together and be classed as full crew,, the V40 callsign is often used for the 4x4 landcruiser ambulance based in victor and a spare team member or TL that crews it for a job
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Courtesy of Google Maps; this is the land cruiser that Alan's talking about, here at the Victor Ambulance Station. Most likely it has got the new markings that all SAAS ambulances have.
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Yeah sorry about that. A VTL operates from Strathalbyn and can work in the South Coast too. Call sign is OC9.
(Cheers to Alan; courtesy of info provided by him via Ozfire :-D, thanks mate)
actually....he's an RTL....small matter of $$ being the difference
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AS everyone has most likely figured out, I'm not in SAAS. But I am interested in working around the fleurieu and south coast with them in the not too distant future. I have been told via other people that the VTL or RTL (whatever one it is) only attends major incidents when requested by a crew. They are more involved in the admin and coordinating training for vollie stations. This is really more for my personal interest. Can any one add to that?
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V500 usually operates out of an Ambulance not a SPRINT car and is usually a spare team member. Essentially operates uner the same idea as SPRINT.
I just think working a single responder out of an emergency ambulance defeats the purpose of having a SPRINT like vehicle that sits in the vehicle bay. Anyhow, thanks for the info.
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but there is no sprint vehicle sitting in the bay at victor, it may just be a spare ambulance sitting at the station or something similar.
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As I understand it, SPRINT cars aren't actually sitting at a station, waiting for a job - the Sprint member picks up the car from a specific base, and goes out & about for the day. Generally, when they don't have jobs, they sit around at strategic locations, and await a job...
They also work the metro area, and only run between around 0700 & 2300 Hrs.
Pip
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I think I know what you're trying to say. I think when you mean SPRINT, you mean Land cruiser 4X4. There is no SPRINT in that area, there is the RTL who operates out of a ford territory, and he is based at Strath. Sometimes Goolwa utilize a SPRINT to car pool vollies around. As for the 4X4, most carry patients and is usually the V500 person works out of until V76 is free.
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Just to clarify SPRINT cars are metro area only, the RTL's are in the country.
ACTL's operate in metro area ie LE1,LW1,LN1,LS1 and all drive Ford Territories.
There are also numerous managers "Oscar etc" callsigns and CSO's floating around which can also first respond to jobs.
If you want to ask a question about SPRINT, Chris Howie who is the Team Leader will set you straight. :wink:
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Hi there
Here in the South East we have two main managers that control the patch where I work; they being OS3 (Mt Gambier) and OS11 (Millicent). The only reason SPRINT are operational is because Adelaide is a city of 1 million, therefore bigger population to care for and also so that they can access patients from one suburb to another. Firstly the thing about a country town is that nothing is too far away, meaning an emergency ambulance is sufficient for the area to be covered. Secondly SPRINT are not based at a station meaning you could have a paramedic based at maccas for the day, (leading to my third reason) that country towns don't get enough calls to support a SPRINT team.
Regards Will :)
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remember SPRINTs are only force multiplyers....their purely to get a response(a single - read cheaper, response) to a CatA or B within the KPI times for a response. They block a hole and are mobile to fill the gaps that occur as other units are moved around, generally never stationary for too long.
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Yeah sorry about that. A VTL operates from Strathalbyn and can work in the South Coast too. Call sign is OC9.
(Cheers to Alan; courtesy of info provided by him via Ozfire :-D, thanks mate)
Yeah, OS9 is his callsign now. And yes, he is an RTL.
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V500 usually operates out of an Ambulance not a SPRINT car and is usually a spare team member. Essentially operates uner the same idea as SPRINT.
I just think working a single responder out of an emergency ambulance defeats the purpose of having a SPRINT like vehicle that sits in the vehicle bay. Anyhow, thanks for the info.
The Land Cruiser has been relocated to another area. I have seen V500 operate out of Fleet 152 which is the spare V fleet (old Merc, old livery and has done over 200,000km).
SPRINT cars do not operate outside of metro. I have never heard of a SPRINT car being used in Goolwa.
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how long since its been relocated? I saw it run to a job just a couple of weeks ago in victor harbor
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Yeah sorry about that. A VTL operates from Strathalbyn and can work in the South Coast too. Call sign is OC9.
(Cheers to Alan; courtesy of info provided by him via Ozfire :-D, thanks mate)
Yeah, OS9 is his callsign now. And yes, he is an RTL.
Ford Territory, fleet 510, I saw him at the Strath hospital a while back.
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Does anyone know if HM2 does some work in Goolwa? I think I saw HM2 at a recent MVA not far from Strath.
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if its the person i think it is he lives in victor, and often see his vehicle around the place so wouldnt be so uncommon to see HM2 at jobs down this way, we had that car respond to a car under truck with us last year.
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Wow, Victor; I'm a bit surprised; HM2 has a pretty large area to cover. Unless he works out of Strath (still far enough) that would be a long drive...Also if HM2 attended that RCR car under truck than he must have been fleet 510; I remember that incident.
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fleet 510 wasnt 510 back then its only been replaced in the last few months,, he arrived on scene further into the job was in an unmarked territory with only dash red and blues.
And yeah he covers a very large area but unsure where exactly hm2 is based from but once again more of a admin role than hands on normally i think
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HM2 would have to be one of the most quietest RTL's in terms of being paged for incidents, I don't listen to the radio enough to pick up if or when he gets a job. Last few times I have been in Goolwa I have seen an RTL vehicle parked out the front so it could be where he is based. I do remember the old territories, they were white with the dashboard red and blues
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I'd be interested to know; do RTL's pick and choose their incidents or are they paged. I've heard radio chatter in the past of them attending a cat B lift. I know they aren't like ACTL's in the sense of sometimes being the closest car or supporting crews with IC backup, but (unless it's happening now) do you think RTL's should be used as a first responder to incidents where getting a crew out might take a while?
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Who is HM2?
OS9 is based in Strath, not Goolwa. His Territory has operational markings. If you have seen another Territory with corporate markings (white with no high-visibility markings and the SA Ambulance logo on the doors) then that belongs to the MPS from Victor.
As far as I am aware, the Troopy isn't back. But since the beginning of the year its been gone. It could have returned, I haven't been to V station in a while, so I may well be wrong!
The RTL is used for major incidents (big MVA for example) and can be used if crews request Paramedic back up. The RTL is not necessarily an ICP. I don't believe they pick and choose their jobs. They are usually paged if something big goes down. As for first responding, that's a bit difficult. OS9 Covers Strath, Goolwa, Meadows and Yankalilla. Unless he is in the town the job is occurring in, I doubt he would be quicker than a crew would be.
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HM2 is Hills Murray Duty Manager. Thanks for the info. What does MPS stand for?
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Manager Patient Services.
Cool, I have never heard of HM2 haha.
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So a bit like LT1 here in metro Adelaide? Is the call sign V1?
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i did a observer shift with goolwa last year and OS9 was called with to a MVA in Strathm Goolwa was closest crew so he was paged to attend to get someone on scene faster than the 15 or so mins it would have taken us to get there
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Manager Patient Services.
Cool, I have never heard of HM2 haha.
does this person operate daily? Do most regional stations have an MPS or does one control a large area?
cheers
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No, an MPS is quite high up. The MPS in Victor is in charge of Victor, Goolwa, Strath, Yank, Meadows, Mount Barker and Stirling. RTL sits below him and is in charge of the Vol stations.
LT is not an MPS. LT is a paramedic TL of the Non-Emerg services.
Not sure of Victor MPS's callsign, but he is a daily job (9-5).
There are a number of M'sPS, ie MPS - Metro East, Metro North etc.
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Does he respond to actual emergencies?
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Usually if he is already mobile or if they are really desperate for someone to attend.
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Does OS9 cover jobs in Victor; ie big MVA's you spoke about earlier or is that the job of the MPS. MPS are just for regional full time though?