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General Discussion => SAAS => Topic started by: straps on December 05, 2008, 05:05:49 PM
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Paging callsign of Uniform Charlie 1..???
1924962 18:09:09 05-12-08 UC1 Cat2 4 Stroma Rd, Marion 141 F12 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
I thought I had heard most of them but dunno who UC1 is..???
Any thoughts..???
Cheers
Straps
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Could be a typo
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Its not the extended care paramedic call sign is it. :? :? :?
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not unless ECP's are going to VA's - .......I hardly think a catheter change is warranted at a fender bender.....
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My two schools of thought was either the ECP's or maybe a car / resource out of Flinders Uni..??? (UC might = University Course / Car)..???
Dunno..
Asked a CTL last night who couldn't help.. She didn't know either..
Cheers
Straps
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Not driver training?
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Not driver training?
nope - budget constraints mean they barely exist now.....moving to Health Dept was a great move!! :roll:
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not unless ECP's are going to VA's - .......I hardly think a catheter change is warranted at a fender bender.....
Too true, didnt even notice the page details. May be a typo.
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Its not the extended care paramedic call sign is it. :? :? :?
Yup, on the right track there!
not unless ECP's are going to VA's - .......I hardly think a catheter change is warranted at a fender bender.....
ECP's like all SAAS operational vehicles are equiped and capable of responding to Emergency workload and have done quite a few Cat 2 jobs so far!
Cheers
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so ICP are now ECP or is there now Normal/ECP/ICP and ATS/ATS+ ?
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Its not the extended care paramedic call sign is it. :? :? :?
Yup, on the right track there!
not unless ECP's are going to VA's - .......I hardly think a catheter change is warranted at a fender bender.....
ECP's like all SAAS operational vehicles are equiped and capable of responding to Emergency workload and have done quite a few Cat 2 jobs so far!
Cheers
isn't that defeating the purpose of their existence...particularly when they're in unmarked cars - the OHS implications could be horrendous!
leaving the first responding to SPRINT and CTL's would be a better option wouldn't it??
and yes zippy - ECP is another step above ICP - doing more out of hospital care and more hospital avoidance type work....it's gotten the AMA up in a right stink!
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so really...they are Doctor/Nurse Cars....
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Full equiped in a very overtly marked vehicle. Definitely not defeatest in any wat shape or form...
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ECP is an up skilled ICP, so do stuff like basic wound care (eg stitches), prescriptions for some meds (not sure what) and referals for x-ray etc as far as I know. Responding to 1's and 2's etc is not main role, that is for normal crews (ICP/Para) and first responder (SPRINT). ATS and ATS+ still doing the non emerg transfers.
UC1 - not sure what, but could be a car from uni, as there is ICP's and Para's oftern teaching at the uni.
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perhaps something like "unscheduled care" ??????
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SPRINT Paramedics = great idea, rapid response to emergencies, filter the crap jobs from transport crews
ECP...... STUPID idea.... ambos playing nurses/nurse practitioner's! (with MUCH less training) and nurse practitioner = 3 year basic nursing degree, then 1 year GNP, the grad dip in speciality i.e emergency, then masters, then portfolio then nurse pract status...
ECP = basic Ambo training 3 year degree (or some of the old guys/gal with Diploma), some years on road, then an internal Intensive Care Course then ECP few weeks training! (of note some ambulance services interstate require their Ambos to sit a grad diploma to achieve ICP status not a Dr Hugh internal course! :-o
ECP =Its a duplication of roles, waste of money are resources... we don't have enough ambos now, so what do we do take them off their primary role (emergency response) and place them in low acuity work......! makes sense NOT :?
Would it have been better for Department of health to put nurses in non marked cars responding to these low care jobs when SAAS crews, sprint or SAAS comms picked them up?
If you want to be a nurse be a nurse,,,,,, if you want to be an ambo be an ambo!!
I bet none of the current ECP will be in these roles by this time next year, they will get boared and go back to emergency work.
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SPRINT Paramedics = great idea, rapid response to emergencies, filter the crap jobs from transport crews
ECP...... STUPID idea.... ambos playing nurses/nurse practitioner's! (with MUCH less training) and nurse practitioner = 3 year basic nursing degree, then 1 year GNP, the grad dip in speciality i.e emergency, then masters, then portfolio then nurse pract status...
ECP = basic Ambo training 3 year degree (or some of the old guys/gal with Diploma), some years on road, then an internal Intensive Care Course then ECP few weeks training! (of note some ambulance services interstate require their Ambos to sit a grad diploma to achieve ICP status not a Dr Hugh internal course! :-o
ECP =Its a duplication of roles, waste of money are resources... we don't have enough ambos now, so what do we do take them off their primary role (emergency response) and place them in low acuity work......! makes sense NOT :?
Would it have been better for Department of health to put nurses in non marked cars responding to these low care jobs when SAAS crews, sprint or SAAS comms picked them up?
If you want to be a nurse be a nurse,,,,,, if you want to be an ambo be an ambo!!
I bet none of the current ECP will be in these roles by this time next year, they will get boared and go back to emergency work.
bang on the money.......
SPRINT has proven it's worth in te short time it's been running...and going 12hours/7 days shortly will only further raise the bar...
I know the training(sic) is a contenscious issue...but then again....ambulance has always been 10 years behind nursing in terms of education standards - so this is just the start point........ driven by the health dept and implemented by a manageent team who would rather score brownie points than facilitate an appropriate qualification and education process!
the UK model of ECP makes it a role/qualification which can be filled by nurses or paramedics, not unlike a model of retrival practitioner which is on the cards for the future!
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CS12 Cat2 Murray St, Gawler 23 M7 TRAFFIC
Who's CS12?
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something as simple as Clinical Services perhaps?
SAAS callsigns aren't that hard to work out now are they?
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Never seen CS12 before...
I'm not a "paramedic".
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CS12 Cat2 Murray St, Gawler 23 M7 TRAFFIC
Who's CS12?
My mind must be wired different.....I assumed it was Candy Stripers 12.....might have been something I read, or saw somewhere :-P
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My mind must be wired different.....I assumed it was Candy Stripers 12.....might have been something I read, or saw somewhere :-P
better to be stripers than strippers!!
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Something as simple as Customer Service perhaps :-P
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customer what?
come off it...this is the Health Dept we're talking about......
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Client Service then?
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I think BM has already elaborated on what the call sign is..