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General Discussion => Incident Operations => Topic started by: bajdas on April 28, 2006, 11:17:30 AM

Title: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: bajdas on April 28, 2006, 11:17:30 AM
Noticed the following pager messages today:

10:14:44 28-04-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: GLOSSOP AND MONASH RESPOND CAR BOGGED IN A FLOODED AREA. J C SMITH AND GELLETT RD BERRI < 28/04/2006 10:14:34 AM

10:17:52 28-04-06 MFS: RESPOND Flooding/Salvage 28/04/06 10:15,BERRI SES,BERRI, MAP 0 A 0 ,,GELLETT AND JC SMITH DVE BERRI ,CAR IN FLOODED AREA NO CONTACT DETAILS AVAILABLE,73929*CFSRES:

From an outsider to the incident, my first thought is that three local (Berri SES, Glossop & Monash CFS) emergency vehicles are going to bogged car.

I understand other issues could exist, which are not given on the pager messages, can increase the urgency (eg fast moving water moves car, life risk of people near car, bystanders, etc) but is this an overkill ?
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: Mike on April 28, 2006, 11:23:29 AM
At face value it would seem like overkill..... but always keep in the back of your mind that we dont have local knowledge, and things arnt always as they seem.

Would need to hold a lottery to see who would be the poor person to get wet ;)
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: bajdas on April 28, 2006, 11:31:31 AM
Must be very wet in the riverland today. I think four pager messages dispatched regards flooding this morning.
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: backburn on April 29, 2006, 03:39:43 PM
Yes it would seem that we should get more info before saying a over kill. I hear SES where already out pumping water for flood, water was up to the middle of the door of the car, ther was also other places needing pumping. they had over 44mm of rain for them this is a lot.
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: 24P on April 29, 2006, 04:38:35 PM
Had a dual response with the SES the other week to a tree down. Funny thing is the call was in MFS area. Dont know why we got responded as the MFS were'nt busy at the time (Both appliances still in station)
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: PF_ on April 29, 2006, 05:42:16 PM
MFS were there in case somethign more important came up! :-P

(THATS A JOKE!, see tree down thread to understand it all)
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: rescue5271 on April 29, 2006, 10:15:45 PM
May be MFS gave you the job to keep your call rate up....Or it was a tree job so send them.....
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: 24P on April 29, 2006, 10:43:58 PM
May be MFS gave you the job to keep your call rate up....Or it was a tree job so send them.....
Call rate is high enough as it is. :-)
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: CyberCitizen on May 01, 2006, 04:25:39 PM
Had a dual response with the SES the other week to a tree down. Funny thing is the call was in MFS area. Dont know why we got responded as the MFS were'nt busy at the time (Both appliances still in station)

Maybe Mets Were Already Covering For Another Area While They Were Out? Or They Didnt Want To Go To A Tree Down.
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: PF_ on May 01, 2006, 05:08:13 PM
Course not, Roast was in the oven!
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on May 01, 2006, 09:25:55 PM
Thats a good one P_F maybe the mets didnt want to respond as they were probably waiting for their dinner to be servedĀ  :lol:
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: CFS_Firey on May 02, 2006, 01:33:11 AM
I doubt the fireys in the station had any choice about whether they responded or not...

Its surprising that they responded CFS into their area though... I always thought they hated the thought of having to do that... :P
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: CFS_Firey on May 08, 2006, 02:35:07 AM
I've noticed that MFS have been dual responding SES and CFS to all tree jobs... is this really necessary?  Especially in the areas where the CFS will be leaving by the time the SES get there (purely because of the travel distance)... Or is this perhaps something SES have requested?
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: Toast on May 08, 2006, 04:25:52 AM
Yes because it is an "SES job", and god forbid they respond only the closest and most appropriate resource....
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: medevac on May 08, 2006, 07:27:06 PM
had an interesting occurence the other night when we rocked up to an RCR we had been paged to to find the local SES boys had self responded to it also... what the???
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: 24P on May 09, 2006, 07:40:51 AM
had an interesting occurence the other night when we rocked up to an RCR we had been paged to to find the local SES boys had self responded to it also... what the???
The joys of paging programs :?
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: fire03rescue on May 09, 2006, 05:36:28 PM
Not the first time this has happened to your brigade.
Do they still run in and read the pager when the doors go up lol
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: medevac on May 09, 2006, 08:56:51 PM
Not the first time this has happened to your brigade.


very true... i remember a few incidents up the hill like that...

ahh the doors dont go up automatically anymore so thats no longer an issue...
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on May 09, 2006, 09:34:07 PM
Not the first time this has happened to your brigade.
Do they still run in and read the pager when the doors go up lol

Did this seriously happen?? :-o
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: medevac on May 09, 2006, 10:00:30 PM
Not the first time this has happened to your brigade.
Do they still run in and read the pager when the doors go up lol

Did this seriously happen?? :-o

affirmitive... its all behind us now.  :wink:
Title: Re: Dual response to storm or flood
Post by: probie_boy on May 11, 2006, 03:55:07 PM
dear god