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What a waste of tax payers money, Sorry you pay your ESL so we will do anything.....Time for those NZ bumper cops of the tunnels....

In the same week that someone was killed near their broken down vehicle on the same road, I think people can be forgiven for being extra careful. 
Let's face it, Glen Osmond probably have more chance of saving a life directing traffic than they would watching Foxtel in their station...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Apparently we only go to bushfires....
« on: October 11, 2010, 07:20:02 PM »
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck ... aint it a duck??

But if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, but is only a duck 33% of the time, is it still a duck?

Also, i think you'll find the CFS is control agency for all fires in a CFS area.  MFS is only the control agency in MFS area.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Incident Stats
« on: October 09, 2010, 04:19:48 PM »
Groups will have to buy ANTI VIRIOUS,Programs,internet access if you don't already have it and of course power to your shed if you don't have it....

Could you invest in a learn English program? Also, can you provide me with an ANTI VIRIOUS,Programs?
Picky, picky, picky.... Hopefully that is what the project manager will be organising.

Hopefully the project manager will be installing one of the many excellent free anti-virus programs, rather than wasting money buying one...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Incident Stats
« on: October 08, 2010, 09:12:56 AM »
They wont do that as when you get your newish second hand PC it will have nothing in it so your group is going to go and spend money on it before you can get it to work.....

Spend money on what?

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Country Fire Service / Re: mutual aid...
« on: October 04, 2010, 08:01:36 PM »
How manny fire service/brigades in OZ use any type of code like MFS???

Most, but they are not retarded like those used by SAMFS


What are the code systems like interstate?



Ah ha, well its an intersting mix really:

BLAH BLAH BLAH

PHEW! Thats a mouthful....

All the different systems make sense to a point, yet I still haven't got my head around SAMFS's love of codes and the fact that it has been expanded to include passing of AIRS codes in stop messages.

I'm not really sure you made your point there - looks like none of those systems are any less 'retarded' than K codes are...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Incident Stats
« on: September 22, 2010, 10:40:20 PM »
...and yes just because you send a report in does not mean it meets any criteria for a firecall hence why your numbers may be lower.

What criteria do you need to fulfill to make it a firecall?  Surely an appliance leaving the station to deal with an incident (regardless of what it is) would be considered a call?

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ALL Rescue / Re: Interesting techniques being taught
« on: September 22, 2010, 11:20:29 AM »
One firm said if they where to do it they would no longer be able to do any work for Holmatro .....

Good to hear Holmatro keep their workers pure!  We wouldn't want any filthy Lukas germs to soil our Holmatro!

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Country Fire Service / Re: Incident Stats
« on: September 22, 2010, 10:38:23 AM »
haha mind you i remember getting the list for reports our brigade hadnt put in and there were a couple i had phoned through myself on there  :-P :-D

How did you get the list?  Is that something HQ can provide?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Incident Stats
« on: September 17, 2010, 04:21:52 PM »
So lets hope theyre not used for funding!

Actually, I think they are, but only to an extent.  I think there's a threshold, (150 calls a year rings a bell), after which a brigade, (or group), gets more funding.  From memory it wasn't all that much though.  (Notice a pattern of uncertainty here?)

My brigade always gets short changed on the official tally too - I'm interested to know why there's a discrepancy...

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Good choices!

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SA Fire Fighter Events / Re: RA&HS 2010 displays
« on: September 16, 2010, 04:47:05 PM »
I saw the trailier at the show and it had a brilliant setup to prepare for bushfires, but I was highly dissapointes by the complete abscence of anything to mention all the other work we do.

I think the trailer is there more as an educational tool for the public to prepare for bushfires rather than to promote the CFS

Then shouldn't it be the bushfire blitz, or community safety trailer, not "The CFS trailer"?

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SA Fire Fighter Events / Re: RA&HS 2010 displays
« on: September 15, 2010, 04:44:48 PM »
Thanks for the photos!

Looks like quite an impressive exhibit, but I think the CFS sells itself short every year by only focussing on rural fires.  I think it'd do our public image some good to advertise our urban side as well.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Rollout IT for Brigades
« on: September 15, 2010, 02:26:48 PM »
Well it looks like this plan is going down the gurgler.

Only if that recommendation is chosen...  It's all just speculation at this stage!

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Reduce CFS Regions from 6 to 3

Probly not a bad idea, but would make managing vols within the region difficult.

Would be interested to know which closures were recommended, but hopefully that would never happen.

They specifically talk about facilities at Willaston, Murray Bridge and Port Augusta with the regional merging, but with the brigades closures, all I can see is:

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This measure needs to be evaluated in conjunction with CFS proposals to close 20 CFS Brigades and reduce CFS regions from 6 to 3.
That's in the account managers comments for the Regional MFS station closures.

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Country Fire Service / Re: MT LOFTY FIRE TOWER
« on: September 15, 2010, 10:35:18 AM »
Andrew, it just really is not the first point of notification of a fire that it used to be 15-20 years ago. Im also guessing if there annual budget is $195 your not even going to get a uniform, let alone be able to run the AC while your up there.

I didn't think PPE and utilities were taken out of brigade budgets. Are they?

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SA Fire Fighter Events / Re: RA&HS 2010 displays
« on: September 15, 2010, 10:34:50 AM »
Andrew, did you manage to get a look at it?

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Yesterday afternoon several media outlets around South Australia received a package containing a red USB stick.

The stick contained a file which outlayed 310 pages of Budget cuts that were to be announced tomorrow in the Treasurer's release.

The document outlines how the Government may hope to achieve its billion dollars of cuts to expenditure, in a bid to trim the costs of the state and have the Government remain profitable.

[Read More]

Recommendations that involve the fire services include:

Introduce Fees for CFS Services in line with MFS
Introduction of fees for CFS alarm monitoring, false alarms and fire safety advice. The fees would be set at the
same rates as MFS so that consistent fees are charged regardless of location.

Own CFS Light Fleet Rather than Lease
CFS maintains a light fleet of over 150 4WD vehicles, such as Nissan Navaras, that are used by volunteer
officers as operational Command and Logistics vehicles in a response role and are driven on the fireground.
CFS currently leases these vehicles whereas it would be cheaper to own these vehicles as they travel relatively
low kilometres compared to the average lease vehicle and require extensive fit-out including lights, sirens,
badging, radios, bull bars, custom shelving etc. which are inefficient to change-over on relatively short leasing
periods.

CFS FTE Reductions
CFS could achieve savings by reducing its staffing levels. Savings are based on reducing its Regional staff by
3, Training by 4, Infrastructure & Logistics by 2, Operations by 2, Administration by 1 and Executive by 1.

Reverse IT connectivity for CFS volunteers
In February 2010, the Government announced $9.4m over five years to provide IT connectivity, additional
pagers and the acceleration of building and maintenance works for emergency services volunteers. This
initiative would reverse the IT component providing computers and broadband access to CFS Brigades and
Groups.

Aerial Firefighting Phase 1 - Discontinue Medium Volume Helicopters
Reduce South Australia's aerial firefighting fleet by discontinuing the two medium volume helicopters and a
surveillance helicopter. Helicopters are more expensive than fixed wing aircraft.

Discontinue Annual Bushfire Awareness Campaign
CFS has funding for an ongoing bushfire awareness campaign involving limited television, radio and print
advertising. The campaign seeks to remind the general public of the threat of bushfires and encourages them
to seek additional information on being prepared. Savings could be achieved by discontinuing this campaign.

Discontinue CFS Community Education Programs
CFS has a base Community Education team of five part-time Community Education Officers that work with
local communities to provide practical advice on preparing for bushfires. Savings could be achieved by
discontinuing these programs.

Reduce CFS Regions from 6 to 3
CFS currently operates 6 Regions, in order to produce savings, CFS could reduce to 3 larger Regions. Savings
would result from ceasing to lease facilities at Willaston, Murray Bridge and Port Augusta, a reduction of 6
FTEs and associated on-costs.

Surrender the space leased on Level 4 of 60 Waymouth Street Adelaide
Level 4 provides a conference and meeting room areas for the co-ordination of operations and meetings during
emergency situations including CFS press conferences. The lease ends August 2014 and there may be costs
associated with breaking the lease agreement.

Reduction in Records Management System resourcing
The emergency services sector is introducing an electronic Records Management System as currently no
formal system exists for the management and tracking of documents. This saving reduces the resources to
administer the system, train users and provide leadership in strategic records management to 1 FTE.

Discontinue the library service provided at Angle Park
This proposal will discontinue the library service that is provided at the Angle Park Training Centre. The
reduction in 1 FTE will mean that the library will eventually close as it will not be able to function.

Reduce Assets and Procurement function (Phase 1)
A reduction in 2 FTEs through a staff reduction in sector wide procurement systems located at the MFS Store
(1 FTE) and within the centralised procurement team (1 FTE).

Provision of SES Business Management service by SAFECOM
This proposal seeks to remove the SES business manager (an FTE within SAFECOM) and undertake this role
using existing SAFECOM Finance staff.

Reduce Emergency Management function (Phase 1)
This saving will cease the provision of support for statewide water safety initiatives with a reduction of 0.5
FTEs. The Emergency Management function currently consists of 4 FTEs.
This position provides policy and training direction for water safety across the state and is part of a national
system which is aimed at reducing the rapidly increasing number of deaths in water areas.

Reduce staff in Public Affairs function (Phase 1)
This saving seeks to rationalise and consolidate the communications and media function within SAFECOM by
reducing staff by 1 FTE. This function currently consists of 7 FTEs.

Reduce Volunteer Strategy and Support (Phase 1)
This saving reduces administrative and youth support staff within the volunteer strategy and support branch
by 1 FTE. Volunteer Strategy and Support currently has a total of 11 FTEs.


...Plus many more, including closing 4 regional MFS stations, closing 20 CFS brigades, removing 3 MFS Station crews and closing 10 SES units.   Many of these recommendations are listed as "lower priority", and I would hope the government doesn't cut any resourcing of the emergency services.

Read the document on the ABC news article for more info...

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: September 08, 2010, 12:00:48 PM »
Or just do the job properly in the first place?

Troll.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: 10 is too old
« on: September 02, 2010, 03:18:02 PM »
Don't use hot water as it causes it to coagulate. Especially bad if you've managed to get some of the uh... 'glue' in your hair.

Except that 10 years is too young in that case.   :evil:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: September 01, 2010, 09:52:52 AM »
Anyone know where the radio was that presed the button....
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MFS:EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM AO-AMR-FT4-M GO DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE NOW*CFSRES

One would assume it's a 'fixed' air operations radio?  Maybe in an aircraft?

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Japanese Concept Tanker
« on: August 16, 2010, 10:58:43 AM »
How very Japanese.

Wouldn't mind seeing some photos of the real thing.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Rescue from heights.
« on: August 13, 2010, 04:30:48 PM »
Do you 2 ropes come from different suppliers, are at the very least different batch numbers, are carried on 2 separate vehicles or at the very least stored in 2 separate lockers on the one vehicle using 2 different storage techniques? Are the 2 ropes set up by different people using separate anchor points and diverse anchoring techniques?

If not what is the advantage?

The advantage is redundancy.  If every part of the system is duplicated, you increase your chances of the system NOT failing by a factor of the probability of failure. 

That is, if the chances of one of the ropes breaking is 1 in 1000, (pretty poor odds), the chance of both breaking is 1 in 1,000,000. (Pretty good odds).

I agree with what others have said that about there being no "right" way, but trying to argue that 1 rope is just as safe as 2 would be the same as arguing that The Titanic would be just as safe with no lifeboats.

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Place test posts here / Re: flash test
« on: August 09, 2010, 02:35:12 PM »
upload test

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Country Fire Service / Re: CFS Facebook page
« on: August 05, 2010, 04:48:38 PM »
CFS would not have the time,money or staff to set this up...
A facebook page takes less than 10 minutes to set up, is completely free, and only needs minimal time from a single staffer to maintain, so those excuses just don't cut it.

Someone has started a CFS Facebook page.

Facebook recently did a cunning change to it's fan/like system that allows users to 'like' any page on the internet, without it needing to be set up as a 'Facebook page' first.  As part of that, they added all (or most) Wikipedia's articles to their search system, so you can search for keywords and 'like' a Wikipedia article from within Facebook.  The Country Fire Service page that comes up in Facebook is just one of these Wikipedia articles, and not a Facebook page.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: July 21, 2010, 07:24:34 AM »
10:42:15 18-07-10 ALDG INFO: IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE THE DEAD MAN ZONE VIDEO IS PLEASE CONTACT BRIAN 83392033 OR FAB 0437717020 18/7/2010 10:41:52
CFS Aldgate Info

Looks like someone has finally thrown it out lol

Found it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMGuiv2SYeg

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