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All Equipment discussion / Re: Heavy use of appliances
« on: November 22, 2007, 04:35:39 PM »
..... is the standard MFS response (in MFS area) to a VF 1 or 2 pumps?

It is my understanding that they are sending Two pumps minimum to every Vehicle Fire, due to the risk of LPG tanks, and the fact that some "charming" deliquents who burn cars are putting BBQ Gas bottles in the boot, or passenger compartments of Vehicles.

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What keeps me there? The satisfaction of knowing we're great at what we do, helping the community and the friends I have made.


I have to agree with Smallflame, the statisfaction you get from knowing that you are doing something great for the community, and that we are the best that we can be at it, is worth the hard times we go through, seeing people at there worst. And the friends you make through being apart of any emergency service will hopefully last a life time.

I was 11 and didn't know any better :lol:

Would you make a different choice if you knew then, what you know now? If so Why?

.... people dont have to say thanks, the look on their faces says it all!

not only that, but im getting life experience and skills, and its all in my spare time!


Too true Country Kid, they dont need to say thanks, the look on their faces says it for them. And as for the life experiance and skills, I have to agree with you there, it is a good thing.

... then i joined and have loved most of it ever since.

and i haven't had many people not be able to understand the not being paid side of it but have had many people not understand the enthusiasm of it.

I think once most people join, they cant get it out of their system.
For me, I live in a metro fringe area. So my collegues at work dont seem to understand the willingness I have to do something for the community without getting paid, and they cant understand the enthusiasm either.

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Country Fire Service / Re: New Dispatch Vs old SOC
« on: November 17, 2007, 04:39:27 PM »
Since the changeover to Comcen dispatch by the current system certainly seems a big step backwards. Who else is finding the service far from 1st class?
Yes the service is not as good as it could be, however, I believe that the guys and girls in Comcen are doing their best, considering they were throwen into this change as much as we were.

The response from Adel fire is 2nd rate they have little to no interest in CFS and are sometimes don't even bother answering radios. At least when SOC was up and running we could get some response to a radio call, these guys don't give a toss. seems like they are purposely making life difficult at the most critical time-dispatch.
How many people are there in Comcen? How many TG are there that need monitoring? When you look at the numbers, there are about 3 operators in Comcen, I believe, and atleast 8 TG to monitor. I think they are doing the best job they can.

No longer do we get given a predetermined TG it is a case of pick your own . I wonder how this will work once the realFDS starts and things really crank up in temperature & jobs on the go? I have yet to here anyone that thinks the system is working better than it was?
Why do you say that it is a case of pick you own TG? You should be using your group TG for comms. Which should be run from either your station, or group base if the incident is significant. Large incidents should be moved on to a regional operations TG, or a Group Operations TG, this should be done by the IC, or IMT. If need be, request a TG to be allocated for the job.

How about all of you who are so busy and interested in berating the Comcen operators give them a break.

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I am sure this has been discussed before, but I was talking to some of my work collegues about why I joined the CFS and why I continue to do it.

After thinking about it, I answered them with the following statement.
"I joined because I wanted to make a difference in my community, I always had a lot of spare time, so volunteering with a community based organisation was what I decided to do. Then two summers ago I was staying with a friend at her grandparents place when we were asked to assist the local CFS brigade (Blancetown) with manning the radio room. My friends grandad and uncles are members of Blancetown.

From the first moment I walked into the station, to when I finished and left, I knew instintively that this was something that I wanted to do. When I got home from my trip away, I looked on the net for my local brigade. I was able to pick from about three, so I went with the one closest to my home.

I stay cause I love the comradery at my brigade, and within my Group. I love helping people, and the best reward is the thanks I get from the community.

My collegues cant understand that I am willing to do what we do, with out pay. When I tell them that I do it cause I love helping people, I love working as part of a team doing something positive, and I love the sense of family I get in the service. And that I have also learnt heaps about myself, how to cope under pressure, skills that I can apply to everyday life. They say I must be crazy not to want a pay check for it. But to me, the thanks from the community, the childrens eyes that light up when they see the appliance and you let them touch the tools, makes it all worth it."


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Country Fire Service / Re: Washup from statewide talkgroup plan
« on: November 09, 2007, 04:32:09 PM »
Why have the Group Base open up to do comms for every job???

Make sure there is someone at your station to do comms. If that means running with four members on the truck, instead of the five that turned up, then so be it.

I really dont see the need to get Adelaide fire, Group Base, Region HQ, or whoever, to do comms when the stations are perfectly cappable of having comms run from there. Thats why we have the occurence books people.

BTW, I am in a brigade that regularly runs with four people on a truck so that someone can stay back and do comms. And the person who useually stays back is me, and thats by choice.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: November 08, 2007, 06:28:48 PM »
1909195 18:40:30 08-11-07 TANKER IS NOW OFF LINE UNTIL IT CAN BE JUMP STARTED, DUE TO VHF BEING LEFT ON. WE ARE NOW DOWN TO 1 APPLIANCE. THANKS RAY FOR ORGANISING IT FOR TOMORROW.LT2 CFS: Salisbury
Don't you guys use isolators & trickle chargers? If you don't no what I'm talking about have a look at the RHS of the SES Isuzus

Yes trickle charges and isolators are supposed to be used. And I know for one thing, I would not be wanting to wait till tomorrow. but each to there own.

Isolaters do get used....its a matter of drivers remembering to turn them off.   A good idea for brigades to go through is a  Truck shutdown checklist after everytime the appliance is used....goes through everything like  "what is the current fuel level...IF  under 5/8ths  ring  so and so to arrange a time for a driver to take it for a refuel".  good old prompting.

Zippy, it is the drivers responsibility to make sure the truck has enough fuel. 3/4 of a tank is the min. in my brigade. After a job if the fuel is low, or we are passing a servo, we fill up. It sould not be left up to some one else to fill. Last to drive, fills up.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: CFS Baseball Caps
« on: October 29, 2007, 03:12:32 PM »
NOWA Fire and Rescue at Virginia has some. Speak to Matt Dragonoff there, he might be able to help. Sorry I dont know the telephone or an email address for him, but the location of the shop is 4 Brady street Virginia. (not far from Virginia station)

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MFS: Call Sign ELZ331 changed to 331. MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

Any one know what this is about?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: GRN RADIO;S
« on: October 14, 2007, 04:18:31 PM »
When i did BFF1 at start of the year, GRN radio operation was a part of it.  There are two booklets covering them (additional to the folder), and we were trained in the operation of them.  and anyway..its a 30min process to learn how to use them hehe.

It is a part of the course, so it should be covered. if not, why not.

GRN TRAINING IS NOT PART OF THE BFF1.  Some brigades/groups have been doing it as part of the BFF1 training programme.  Which means it is an adition to the programme.  I personally do not see how you could teach GRN Training correctly in 30 mins as their are 3 different modules to do: 1. SAGRN Network which includes a 10 minute video with Keith Conlon. 2. SAGRN Mobile radio. 3. SAGRN Portable radio.  Just doing these sections correctly with the CFS specifics of the radio systems would at least make the training go for a minimum of 60 minutes at least.  (MAYBE THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THE SAGRN NETWORK.  WHEN YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IT IS THE SYSTEM WHEN IN FACT IT IS PROBABLY OPERATOR ERROR DUE TO THE LACK OF CORRECT TRAINING BEING PERFORMED IN THE TRAINING WHICH IS SUPPOSE TO BE DELIVERED.) :? :-o :x

I heard the same thing today that you are unable to use the training kits as well due to the training units are now being placed into fire appliances.  But think about it you do not need a training kit to deliver the training.  I think that you all have the CFS specific GRN radios in your station and appliances so you can use them.  Might be a bit harder to do but is quite achievable.  As a SAGRN instructor I have been delivering this way of training for the last 12 months from appliances and stations and it seems to work better as crew members can actually relate to the radio units which are in your station and appliances.  Instead of having training kits which have handpieces with numeric keypad functions which you will never use on a fire appliance. :-)

I agree with you LtDan, GRN training is not part of the BFF1. I done my BFF1 last year and on the last day, our last moduel from the folder was communication; then we had GRN Operations and Use, that went for about an hour, if I remember correctly.

If people are not being taught correctly how to use the equipment, then we can not expect it to last for the length of time that it is suppose to.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Ordering of PBI Gold
« on: October 08, 2007, 04:16:17 PM »
so are the people waiting ages short/fat, tall/skinny, tall/fat, etc???


reasons i heard were that the "odd" sizes werent as easy to supply....

Then I will be waiting a while I think, I completed my BA course this weekend just gone. I got sized up for Short-Extra Small, and I was not the only one on my course to have odd sizes, there were a couple of shorties, and a couple of tallies.

Any one want to take bets?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Pager info
« on: September 29, 2007, 05:57:55 PM »
Just forget it.. - What I was getting at Dez is the comment "Just use your eyes and ears" is a little too blase! .. It can often be too late by then.

You comment re: not planning unless your at a job..- Well heck, don't be anywhere near me when its the middle of January! I want someone who knows a bit about what to expect that day! At 8am when its already passing 30 degrees, hot northerly winds gusting at around 50/60kmh are starting to come through the gully's and the R/H is 0% with an FDI of 105.. - When the pager drops its going to be too bl00dy late! .. Pre planning or the information regarding weather and what its going to be doing can be crucial. So never just say
Quote from: Dezza
....but use ya eyes and ears...and thats enough warning for a volunteer..

I agree with you one hundred and fiftey percent RescueHazmat. A good firefighter is able to use their knowledge to work out , to a certain degree, what could happen if a job was to happen in a given weather situation, or even the type of job to expect. Ie. wet weather- expect vehicle accidents to occur as somepeople dont drive to conditions. Or, in the middle of summer when, as you said it is 8am and passing 30 degrees- expect a rural type job, grasss, scrub or forest, and expect it to be filtered hard to control.

Most jobs, summer expecially, when the pager drops, the time for pre planing is gone.

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SA Firefighter General / State CFS Talkgroups etc
« on: September 16, 2007, 01:17:15 PM »


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Trouble is, in many areas,there is a lack of radio operators / people willing to do radio..hence no base / station opens....

We are constantly being told to keep off / get off 124 / 111 once we have acknowledged a call....  so we end up with a quandary... go to a anther channel all by yourself, with no one to talk to, remain on 124 / 111 against what HQ are pushing, or use the Group Duty officer.....

It would help immensely, in the recruiting of new radio operators, if CFS actually had a course for it...which I understand is coming...not sure when

Pip

I would think any of the left over people who responded to the station would think...we need to open the station to take comes for this incident...log on to adelaide fire let appliances know you are open, and take them to the stations primary GRN channel.

In regards to "people lacking experience with comm's"...good idea for a training night.

I agree with you dezza, in my brigade, we will always try to have a radio opperator at the station. If you are the one left behind at the station, you are automatically the radio opperator, no if's or but's. If we dont have anyone to leave at the station, some one on the truck is asked to log mobile, arrival times etc, and any extra resources will be requested via 093.

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Country Fire Service / Re: If Anyone is interested
« on: September 14, 2007, 06:56:57 PM »
pip will definately probably be able to tell ya which brigade heh  :wink:

im gonna guess....Region 1 Light Group area

Umm Dezza, you might want to check what regions particular groups belong to. Light Group is Region TWO (2).

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Country Fire Service / Re: Brigade Parade
« on: September 12, 2007, 04:13:46 PM »
My brigade does. Before and after training. Sometimes because of what may be happening or if training goes  later then normal, one may get missed.

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It'd be nice if the info being put out in the media was correct (not sure if the errors are in the info being provided to the media, or in the author of the story getting it wrong....)

The truck that crashed today was not a B- double at all..but a rigid, with what looked like a dog trailer....major difference to a B-double....

And I suppose, strictly speaking, the intersection of Glen Osmond - Portrush Rd is below the Heysen Tunnels....

And the info about the first crash, stating that the truck (which was a B- double) stated power poles were taken out by the "runaway truck"...I could only find the gooseneck light poles.....only a minor difference!

And then there was the headline in one of the articles I saw today "Chaos Corner"...gee whiz, today's crash didn't look like it was on a corner.... !!

Just a bit of fact, and some correct information in the story might be good!!   :-D

Pip

I have to agree with you there Pip. it would be nice if the information was correct.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: September 09, 2007, 01:11:24 PM »
1919315 11:56:05 09-09-07 DANIELLE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE GIVEN BIRTH TO A BABY GIRL IT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO NOT RESPOND TO CALL OUT FROM THE CRAZY MOB - GOOD LUCK CFS Glossop Info

I think congratulations are in order here. And I would say she deserves some time off. :-D

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Seaford Responses
« on: September 03, 2007, 04:04:34 PM »
oh and something else may help too.....in the same way there are Primary and Support Fire Reports to send to HQ  (i hope people know the meaning of  Support response lol)...indicate in pager message that ur brigade is Primary or Support.

Maybe a clearer indication of Incident type like "MVA-Spill", "MVA-Injury", "RCR" also.

The PRIMARY brigade, atleast as far as I know, is always the brigade with its code first in the section of whos going. IE.MFS: INC # 71 - 02/09/07 23:09,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PIGGOTT RANGE RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 178 E 16 ,,BETWEEN EDUCATION AND BAINS RD,439 8124*CFSRES: according to this pager message, the incident is in MFS Station 43's area.

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Country Fire Service / Re: CFS Rope Rescue brigades
« on: September 01, 2007, 09:39:28 PM »
Naracoorte
stirling
sellicks
robe
waikerie

are the only five CFS rope rescue brigade's in the state

Burnside have rope rescue gear/ confined space gear on the state hazmat appliance.

I also believe Nurioopta have rope rescue gear/ confined space gear also. Not a hundred percent certain on that, but I am certain about Burnside.

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RescueHazmat, winter is a figmant of our imaginations these days, the seasons go; summer, autumn, spring- or alternatively, wet and dry, like the territory. (Not that we get much rain anyway).

Perhaps it should be the Dry and the Drier Season?  :wink:

Hmm, you could be right there.

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I'm still waiting for winter.. !  :|

RescueHazmat, winter is a figmant of our imaginations these days, the seasons go; summer, autumn, spring- or alternatively, wet and dry, like the territory. (Not that we get much rain anyway).

summer is not that far way....

Rescue5271, summer will be here before we know it.


Do country based people believe this is the end of winter or do you believe more rain to come ?

I trust farmers local knowledge of the seasons better than BoM.

Bajdas, I am from the metro area, but I can tell you the seasons are changing. The sooner everyone in Australia, from the farmers, to city dwellers, realise this, the better we will be able to prepare. Our whole climate has change dramactically. I am only tweenty years old, but I have noticed that over the past three years there has been a very large change in our climate and weather. I think we are going to have to expect summer to only get hotter and longer. We will have to preparer for summer now.

My opinion only.

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OFF Topic / Re: Who are "firies?"
« on: August 17, 2007, 04:35:23 PM »
If we need payment to be considered "Professional" then "Thanks" from the communities we volunteer to serve and protect is payment enough for us.

SA Firery, I agree with you, the thanks from the community is all the payment I need. I am a young person and in a break from the norms for young adults these days, I enjoy giving up my time to help protect and serve my community. At all times when I am in any way identified as a member of the SACFS, I am professional in both my appearance and manner. I do not wish to be payed for what I do, because I believe it is good to help people out. Maybe one day I will consider joining the SAMFS, but at this stage, I enjoy being a volunteer.

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OFF Topic / Re: Who are "firies?"
« on: August 16, 2007, 05:53:13 PM »
I would of thought a Fire Fighter be they paid or vollie or retained.

aka someone who puts out fires!    :lol:


Those that work on red trucks know the saying "its gotta be red"  (red rooster commercial)

I agree with you Crank, too me a fire fighter is a firie. In my opinion, it does not matter whether you are a paid, volly or retained, we are all firies and ALL PROFESSIONALS.

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I had the oportunity to spend some time in hamely bridge CFS,  In my opinon they are doing it hard.  They need to move things around to squeeze in the trucks. Toilet  i feel they should have a new station.

Does anybody else think they deserve a new station additions??? 

I feel this could be a positive way to support some of our poorer cousins. 

anybody think of any others???

Red Truck, I have to agree with you that Hamely need a new station, they have approxiametly 25 females in their brigade- cadets and firefighters. Balakavia are "supposedly" getting a new station, a head of Hamely, yet they have facilities for both males and females, and they have locker space. At Hamely they are crammened in their little shed, one toliet, no wear to change, those are just the beginings of the complants that I know the members of Hamely have about their station.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Metro CFS volunteers
« on: July 15, 2007, 06:58:12 PM »
This was on channel seven news to night. Looks like Metro Volunteers will be doing a sort version of the BFF1, 1 day course. It was interesting to listen to.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Captains
« on: July 06, 2007, 08:40:55 PM »
I'ld have to agree with Pip. Experiance is important, but if you are a captain, or even a liuetenant or senior, and have no leadership skills, no one will want to follow you. A good leader can also recongise were they need assistance and will ask for it and use those around them to effectively accomplish a task.

Ideally, in a captain, I would like both experiance and leadership, but reality is not always going to allow us to have what we want.

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