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Title: Fire season starts early
Post by: mengcfs on September 27, 2006, 02:24:56 PM
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13:28:29 27-09-06 FOR INFO A STATE WIDE FIRE BAN HAS BEEN NOTIFIED COMMENCING ON OCT 15TH FOR ALL FIRE BAN DISTRICTS - MORE INFO AT EACH STATION BY FAX - GROUP OFFICER


Well i'm not sure a state wide fire ban will commence on the 15th Oct but the fire season is starting then.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: oz fire on September 27, 2006, 02:35:01 PM
Joy oh joy - an early fire season!

The differance to us - sweet F/A, bugga all and none!

Pager goes off, we respond, end of story!

Have a safe early FDS people
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: mengcfs on September 27, 2006, 02:43:40 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Pipster on September 27, 2006, 03:48:54 PM
Joy oh joy - an early fire season!

The differance to us - sweet F/A, bugga all and none!


Doesn't your brigade undertake any hazard reduction burns?  It will make a difference in many areas, mine included, where we have been planning some burn offs.  With the restrictions coming in early, it means more running around to get permits, plans etc.

In my area right now, the conditions are pretty right for burn offs - other than the wind which comes up at various times.     An early season in my area will mean some people won't get their burns done (either ones done by CFS, or by the land holder)...and a bucket load more work for the Captain, in checking proposed burns, when people apply for a permit (assuming that permits will be issued!!)  The other problem that may arise is that people try to get their burn offs done earlier, due to an early start to the season - and end up lighting up on a day which they perhaps shouldn't.....then we get the call.....

To put the season in a bit of a perspective, in my area in the last 3 weeks, we have had 35 mm of rain. While many areas of the state are in desperate need of rain (and very dry, and perhaps not safe for anyone to burn), a small area is not in the same boat so to speak.

Having said that, having a uniform fire season, will take the confusion out of fire restrictions for this year!  :-)
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: rescue5271 on September 27, 2006, 08:28:37 PM
Some areas are still green but for how long??? Nice to see that they will all come on at once and from what I hear CFA may also be doing the same. As pip said some places had 35mm of rain and others had less than 2mm in the past week or so.....
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: mengcfs on September 28, 2006, 09:43:58 AM
More like less than 2mm in the last month!
Damn we're struggling down here, but hey, what can we do about it.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: probie_boy on September 28, 2006, 09:57:15 AM
fire season is fire season. Just different restrictions on how we operate.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on September 28, 2006, 10:09:09 AM
Hey CFS Firey just thought i'd point out you spelt your name wrong when you changed it back :-D Unless you wanted it that way :wink:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: probie_boy on September 28, 2006, 10:18:24 AM
you need to now lose the breakfast food name crumpets. change it to something different!
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on September 28, 2006, 01:31:52 PM
I dunno i like crumpets.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: rescue5271 on September 29, 2006, 08:31:05 PM
The state may have its first fire ban in the lower south east on sunday will know more saturday......
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: medevac on September 29, 2006, 08:56:32 PM
on that note... as a R5 vollie what do you think about paging the whole region to say that there might be a ban sunday? personally i think its a bit odd, and confuses soem poor vollies....
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Pipster on September 29, 2006, 09:10:16 PM
Looks like that message was a "heads up " to the Group Office holders in each Group, not a general page to everyone in the Region...

Can't see anything wrong with giving people some warning......

Pip
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: medevac on September 29, 2006, 09:18:38 PM
mmm just seems weird to me... that was all :wink:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: rescue5271 on September 30, 2006, 11:56:41 AM
That page only went to group officers and their DGO'S....
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: probie_boy on October 01, 2006, 09:46:05 PM
there were a few lighning strike fires today. I was down at sellicks earlier today and there was a fair bit of lighning out over the water.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: PF_ on October 01, 2006, 11:27:00 PM
okay that just got me thinking...

If lightning strikes hit the water does that mean all sea water becomes conductive of electricity?
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: medevac on October 01, 2006, 11:33:32 PM
hahahahaha - nooooo..... must..... stop..... thinking...... :-P
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: SA Firey on October 02, 2006, 12:44:39 AM
1912319 13:23:36 01-10-06 SHQ: FOR INFO: LIGHTNING BAND HEADING ACROSS YORKE PENINSULA, ALSO POWER OUTAGES ACROSS YORKE PENINSULA - FIRE REPORTED STARTED BY LIGHTNING AT AGERY >

1919453 13:39:51 01-10-06 SHQ: CFSRES: COWELL & SALT CREEK RESPOND GRASS/SCRUB FIRE, LIGHTNING STRIKE, MUNYAROO CONSERVATION PARK, NEAR BEACH 

1919460 20:44:15 01-10-06 1/10/2006 8:43:35 PM Cleve EEG require 2 people to man GUM FLAT 14 for fire at Munyaroo please contact your capatain URGENTLY if you can go Be at cleve by 7.00am Monday regards shaun

Mother nature at work again been busy day today for most brigades FDS is here already :wink:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 02, 2006, 08:59:05 PM
I was watching the weather tonight on National Nine News and it looks like we might have a fire ban on Wednesday and Sunday due to the temps and strong northerlies  :-o
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: SA Firey on October 03, 2006, 06:11:33 PM
SHQ: TOTAL FIRE BANS HAVE BEEN DECLARED FOR 4/10/06 IN THE NORTH WEST PASTORAL, MOUNT LOFTY RANGES, LOWER SOUTH EAST. < 3/10/2006 16:58:17

Anyone noticed the significant increase in Fire Call turnouts due to burnoffs getting away on the decoder

Its going to be busy for sure :wink:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: oz fire on October 04, 2006, 01:52:38 PM
Sure the fire season is starting early - but be honest - are you as a fire fighter more prepared during the fire season than other times, as people have indicated here that it's an impact on us ...... WTF?

As a firie, I'm prepared 24/7, 365 days. If I can attend I will, if I can't there is little I can do about it.

As a firie, I'm active in the community with prevention, including my own home.

As a firie, I encourage my neighbours, friends etc to be fire wise and prepared.

The fire season to me - warmer weather, still prepared, still active and still aware that the community is complacant, regardless wheteher it be due to fire season, driving accidents, structure fires etc.

Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 04, 2006, 09:39:29 PM
The FDI peaked on Hindmarsh Island midday today at 121.
Fire we went to at Mt Compass today was spotting around 600m from the original fire luckily still reasonably green at Compass. Definatly not looking forward to the next few months. :-( 
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Pipster on October 04, 2006, 10:40:29 PM
Did you get any photos? 

I am always looking for some pics to add to the Promo website....   :-D

Pip
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 05, 2006, 10:21:28 AM
Sorry pip i always try but we were too busy.... :oops: :-D
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 05, 2006, 01:17:53 PM
There was only 3 callouts here in the South East yesterday 2 in Naracoorte group and 1 in Gambier Group

There was a picture of the fire which a some of the gambier group brigades responded to on the front page of today's Border Watch.... also it turns out that a deadly brown snake was found in the Lakes Village undercover carpark seeiking shelter from yesterday heat  :-D
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 06, 2006, 06:21:16 PM
You need to go back to school and learn how to count robert34.

i can recall at least 3 in gambier group alone!

2 i know of at naracoorte

1 at mt benson

1 at tantanoola....

cant remember any others but to me that equals 7 and there maybe a few i missed!
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: 24P on October 06, 2006, 08:55:24 PM
Have been watching the grass in my area and over the past week have noticed a significant change in the colour. Give it another week of dry weather and i reckon it'll be about 70-80% cured.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: SA Firey on October 06, 2006, 10:20:54 PM
There was only 3 callouts here in the South East yesterday 2 in Naracoorte group and 1 in Gambier Group

There was a picture of the fire which a some of the gambier group brigades responded to on the front page of today's Border Watch.... also it turns out that a deadly brown snake was found in the Lakes Village undercover carpark seeiking shelter from yesterday heat  :-D

We have two seasons in summer FIRE SEASON AND SNAKE SEASON

MFS have two seasons to

HOUSE FIRE SEASON
GRASS FIRE SEASON

Just ask any one at Elizabeth :lol: :evil:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 06, 2006, 10:26:04 PM
Not forgetting the car fires, wheelie bins, brush fences, rubbish in gutter etc.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: CFS_Firey on October 07, 2006, 01:07:48 AM
We have a Fire season, and an MVA Season... haven't had problems with snakes :P
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 07, 2006, 01:01:37 PM
I wasnt aware that there was more callouts in the region CAMO i only went by what i read in the paper,heard on my scanner and seen on the paging site
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 07, 2006, 01:11:46 PM
You should know better to rely on the Border Watch for Information  :-D
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 07, 2006, 01:16:21 PM
Sounds like a few grassis starting today even.  Also noticed a few burnoffs being done by brigades.....down here in the mount it is quite blowie so hopefully no one decides to do the same here.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: 5271rescue on October 08, 2006, 04:22:40 PM
I had a email with photos of a grass fire in Victoria that needed 16 tankers to put out,mind you the grass and scrub was green but very dry under the treelines....
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: SA Firey on October 12, 2006, 12:06:39 AM
OK hands up who wants to go on a strike team?

Going by todays fire calls there will be plenty coming this season....KI,Lincoln,Pt Wakefield,Avon

Get plenty of rest :wink: 
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: 5271rescue on October 13, 2006, 07:10:42 AM
Must be that time of the year agao free holiday,great sea views and as for the food :roll: can only hope its better tha last time...But no thanks as I am on holidays till the 31st.....
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: SA Firey on October 17, 2006, 09:58:23 AM
Reminds me of a page that went out last fire season something like this...

ANY MEMBERS AVAILABLE FOR A CFS ALL EXPENSES PAID TRIP TO KANGAROO ISLAND,5 DAY DURATION,LOVELY SEA VIEWS & TRANQUIL SETTING PLEASE CONTACT GROUP OFFICER ASAP :lol:   
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 17, 2006, 03:24:06 PM
There was one for Ngarkat which was something like

SIGHTSEEING TOUR OF NGARKAT CONTACT SUCH AND SUCH.

MengCFS knows more i think
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: mengcfs on October 17, 2006, 03:49:08 PM
Yeah you got it Camo,
it was "anyone available for sight seeing to Ngarkat", should have been strike team. The Brigade thought i purposly put it like that - we all know what strike teams can be like.
PS you got a good memory!
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: bajdas on October 17, 2006, 04:54:17 PM
15:42:54 17-10-06 R1HQ: NEED 12 FIREFIGHTERS FOR K.I. DEPART ADEL WED 18 OCT 0715. RETURN FRIDAY 20 OCT ARRIVE ADEL 2015 FLYING. RING R1HQ TO CONFIRM NAMES PHONE LIZ <ph#> 17/10/2006 3:42:42 PM

The deployment continues....Can someone update me on the status of the KI fires.

Last I heard it was a slow moving burn in difficult to access (steep) terrain. No properties were threatened and containment lines had been formed.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 17, 2006, 05:09:25 PM
Yeah you got it Camo,
it was "anyone available for sight seeing to Ngarkat", should have been strike team. The Brigade thought i purposly put it like that - we all know what strike teams can be like.
PS you got a good memory!

Nah more of a selective memory
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 17, 2006, 05:18:12 PM
15:42:54 17-10-06 R1HQ: NEED 12 FIREFIGHTERS FOR K.I. DEPART ADEL WED 18 OCT 0715. RETURN FRIDAY 20 OCT ARRIVE ADEL 2015 FLYING. RING R1HQ TO CONFIRM NAMES PHONE LIZ <ph#> 17/10/2006 3:42:42 PM

I presume this is 12 from the region and not per group?  Each group page i see says require 12 FF's to go to KI.  That equates to alot
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: SA Firey on October 17, 2006, 07:20:47 PM
15:42:54 17-10-06 R1HQ: NEED 12 FIREFIGHTERS FOR K.I. DEPART ADEL WED 18 OCT 0715. RETURN FRIDAY 20 OCT ARRIVE ADEL 2015 FLYING. RING R1HQ TO CONFIRM NAMES PHONE LIZ <ph#> 17/10/2006 3:42:42 PM

The deployment continues....Can someone update me on the status of the KI fires.

Last I heard it was a slow moving burn in difficult to access (steep) terrain. No properties were threatened and containment lines had been formed.

Make sure you bring the NO DOZ cause the crews coming back worked three days and only three hours sleep :evil:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: fire03rescue on October 18, 2006, 08:34:32 AM
I think the 12 people are picking up the fire trucks and returning them back
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: oz fire on October 18, 2006, 09:08:44 AM
Ah....... the joys of KI fires and the seasons only just begining
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: CyberCitizen on October 18, 2006, 09:26:13 AM
I Heard They Were Being Sent Cause Of Lighting Strikes.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: mattb on October 18, 2006, 07:11:36 PM
Our crews flew out this morning and are working on the Mt Taylor fire, mainly patrolling and mopping up.

They are using some of the Region One mainland trucks still on the island, we have been told they are due back in Adelaide Friday night.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: 5271rescue on October 21, 2006, 07:18:34 AM
KI,why is it that we still can not get it right when we send crews to the ISLAND?? I have spoken to a number of people who went over and they are not happy about how they where treated and the way in which they where informed of things and that what one person said say not true or that was never said....Now if you want people to go on this yearly trip then its about time that CFS got it right,from those in IMT to the person giving the briefing to food to shift times to go home let get it right...this comes up each year and it would be nice if we could get it all right once and for all......

I would hope that when groups have a debrief about the KI tour that members will speak up and that this time something is done..No I did not go but if I was home and they page went out I would have put my hand up as its been a while since I was over there.....
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: oz fire on October 26, 2006, 09:46:44 AM
Blinky - KI is like Ngarkat - burns every year, we have debriefs every year and each year we get some things improved - slow wheel to improvement.

Interesting though - we go to NSW and Vic and seam to get most of it right, but can't in our own back yard - go figure???
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Pipster on October 26, 2006, 06:12:51 PM
Blinky - KI is like Ngarkat - burns every year, we have debriefs every year and each year we get some things improved - slow wheel to improvement.

Interesting though - we go to NSW and Vic and seam to get most of it right, but can't in our own back yard - go figure???

I reckon it can be easily explained why it all seems to work well when we go interstate, but doesn't seem to go as well in our own back yard......

When we go interstate, we tend to get the best of the IMT people, and the best of the crews, because we have the time to organise things, employers are perhaps more willing to let their staff go because the perception is that things are much more serious if we send people interstate, than locally (even though it is probably the other way round!)  whereas for a local thing we get whoever can turn up ASAP - who may not be the best person for the job, but at least it's a person to help......

Pip
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 27, 2006, 02:34:22 PM
According to The Border Watch today soil down here is drying out twice as fast as it did in the 1982/1983 drought :-o
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 27, 2006, 04:07:20 PM
According to The Border Watch today soil down here is drying out twice as fast as it did in the 1982/1983 drought :-o

Im glad you emphasised the words "the border watch"    :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 27, 2006, 05:51:39 PM
According to The Border Watch today soil down here is drying out twice as fast as it did in the 1982/1983 drought :-o

Im glad you emphasised the words "the border watch"    :-D :-D :-D

Its my favourite paper to read 4 days a week Camo  :-D but still doesnt the soil drying out twice as fast now as it did 24 1/2-25 years ago concern you one bit  :-(
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Scania_1 on October 27, 2006, 06:40:58 PM
Grasses up around Naracoorte are much drier than down here in The Mount at the moment. A few more warm days will fix that though. This drizzle of rain wont have much affect. Yes I am worried Robert that it will be a nasty season.
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 27, 2006, 06:57:15 PM
Its my favourite paper to read 4 days a week Camo  :-D but still doesnt the soil drying out twice as fast now as it did 24 1/2-25 years ago concern you one bit  :-(

Yes it concerns me but It doesnt mean nothing unless a fire starts  :-D

Same as always though...pager goes off so you respond to the station
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 27, 2006, 07:13:48 PM
Grasses up around Naracoorte are much drier than down here in The Mount at the moment. A few more warm days will fix that though. This drizzle of rain wont have much affect. Yes I am worried Robert that it will be a nasty season.

The grass around Kalangadoo is starting to dry out as well ath even though its still green the colour is off greenish/yellow colour so a few more warm days like you said will dry it out

According to the Weather Bureau website temperature outlook were gonna have a really warm/hot November which in a way does work to my advantage as i am re-entering my float from last year into this years Mount Gambier Christmas Parade and a warm/sunny would be a blessing  :-D
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 27, 2006, 07:19:50 PM
Prediction from our Group meeting the other night was 100% curing in two weeks time.

Quite achievable if we get some sunny days with some wind.

Which float is your rob?  need to know which one i need to throw the water balloons at! :lol:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 27, 2006, 07:43:55 PM
My float is the Little Red Toy & Pokemon Christmas Car and no you cant throw water bombs at it Camo cause my support crew will be working really hard on parade morning to get it set up just right before the parade just like they did last year  :wink:

100 % curing  :-o thats unusual for this time of year but then again its an ominous sign of whats to come in the next few months  :cry: :|

If you want a picture of the float Camo for the Gambier Group base or your brigade station wall dont forget the Digital Camera cause my float was quite popular last year  :-D
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: bajdas on October 27, 2006, 08:00:23 PM
In regards to IMT teams.....weekend course being run this weekend at Brukunga for senior AIIMS team members. So in theory better trained people will help the process and limit the issues in the future....or am I just in happy, happy land  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Pipster on October 27, 2006, 08:25:10 PM
Hopefully with the increased training courses, and also courses that raise a better understanding inf the process, at least everyone will be on the same page, so to speak!!!

If you do nothing, then nothing will come of it!!   :-)

Pip
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: 5271rescue on October 28, 2006, 08:27:54 AM
cam, have to see if we can get a bomber to drop a load on that float :evil:(joke)
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: Camo on October 28, 2006, 10:19:22 AM
cam, have to see if we can get a bomber to drop a load on that float :evil:(joke)

Up there for thinking!
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: 5271rescue on October 28, 2006, 03:23:55 PM
Better still I will be there with my two sons you would be surprised what two 9lt air waters can do.....
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: SA Firey on October 29, 2006, 08:57:59 PM
Better still I will be there with my two sons you would be surprised what two 9lt air waters can do.....

Quick attack :-D
Title: Re: Fire season starts early
Post by: medevac on October 30, 2006, 10:25:04 AM
or am I just in happy, happy land  :mrgreen:

its alright, you have rob for company