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MFS Take over = End of CFS

Well We Can't Have That Can We.

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Ive been bailed up by a few people at work asking what i thought about the matter aswell

Well Send Them Here :-D

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Negative Publicity = Less Vollies = Less Bridages = Less Service/Protection.

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I also believe that the weather conditions experienced on Eyre Pen on Black Tuesday would have made the fire very difficult to contain regardless of the amount of resources sent.

"There is no firefighting force in the world that could have stopped the fire in the conditions we experienced today"

Next, The Man Who Sued God.  Can They Not Prove He Had Something To Do With The Weather Conditions.

We Are Vollies, We Went To Help & They Want To Sue The CFS Because They Feel That We Could Have Done More.  That May Just Be The Case, However We Did The Best We Could During The Suitation & Now They Have All The Time In The World To Pick Apart Every Small Detail.  I Think It's Wrong, However That Being Said, I Also Feel Sadness For Those Who Lost Love'd Ones & There Homes + Belongings.

Fatalities 9 (including 4 children and 2 firefighters) - Let Us Not Forget We Lost Some Of Our Own Over There.

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Country Fire Service / Re: NSWFB Wallet's
« on: July 05, 2005, 10:22:40 AM »
I Will Scan An Image In Tonight If I Get A Chance.

They Are Not Bad I Believe That Have The CFS Star In The Back Ground With Fire Trucks & Equipment On Top Of The Logo.

Will Post The Image Tonight.

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Country Fire Service / Re: black tuesdau DVD
« on: July 04, 2005, 10:48:53 AM »
Ok I Have Emailed HQ & I Will Let You Know How I Go About Obtaining A Copy.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: united firefighter union
« on: July 04, 2005, 10:33:34 AM »
We Also Have Been Receiving A Lot Of Calls From People On VOIP.  They Also Don't Speak English As A Primary Language, Which Makes It Even Harder To Get Rid Of Them As Well As The Lag From The VOIP.

I Just Keep Hanging Up Now With Out Even Saying A Word & They Have Stopped Calling, But They Were Called Every Day At Least Twice.

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Country Fire Service / Re: NSWFB Wallet's
« on: July 04, 2005, 10:30:35 AM »
I Just Thought It Would Be A Nice Idea, Something That Members Can Buy If They Want.  I Thought It Would Be A Nice Collectable, Something To Show With Pride.

As For The Belt Buckles, You Can Get Once From Fire & Rescue, Don't Think Its The Same One Your Talking About, However I Got One & I Never Used It.

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Country Fire Service / You'll Pay, Black Tuesday Victims To Sue CFS
« on: July 04, 2005, 09:49:52 AM »
ABOUT 30 victims of the Black Tuesday bushfires on Lower Eyre Peninsula are to lodge a multimillion-dollar class action against the Country Fire Service over its handling of the disaster that killed nine people.

The victims want others to join the action, which is based on a belief the fire should have been contained on the Monday night through back-burning operations and water bombing.

Victims are believed to have lost more than $100 million in property and stock in the January 11 fire.

The group has engaged an Adelaide law firm and has held a public meeting in Port Lincoln. An independent investigator has been hired to compile a report on the fires.

The victims, many of whom are volunteer firefighters themselves, are now awaiting the outcome of an expected coronial investigation before initiating legal action.

The CFS's handling of the fire has been the subject of several reports and will be a key factor examined in the coronial investigation.

CFS chief executive Euan Ferguson yesterday said it would be inappropriate to comment on any potential legal action.

Meanwhile, the man charged over the fires, truck driver Marco Visic Jr, has issued an emotional statement through his lawyer, Mark Semmens.

Mr Visic, 40, was last month charged with breaching a section of the Country Fires Act by not having a spark arrester in good order. The fire allegedly took hold when Mr Visic's car was driven in long grass near Wangary.

"My client feels immense sorrow for the devastation caused by the bushfire, to those who lost property and, more so, to those who were injured or lost loved ones in the fires," the statement says. "Mr Visic Jr and his family have suffered emotionally and are distressed by the fire, its consequences and the court charge. Mr Visic asks that he and his family are not vilified for what is the most tragic event on the Eyre Peninsula this century."

The fire claimed nine lives and destroyed 93 homes as it tore through 77,000ha of the lower Eyre Peninsula. Farmers reported 237 sheds and 139 pieces of farm machinery were destroyed. Almost 47,000 head of livestock was lost, including 46,139 sheep.

White Flat resident Patricia Pahl, who lost her house, said she had signed up for the class action because she believed the blaze was poorly handled.

She, like many other victims, claims that back-burning on Monday night could have restricted the extent of the fire, which broke out in up to eight places in extreme temperature and high winds the following day.

"I am not into suing people," Ms Pahl said yesterday. "But there was more that could have been done on that Monday night."

Ms Pahl's daughters, Cassandra, 13, and Helen, 11, fled their property in two four-wheel-drives as 20m-high flames approached. Almost six months after the ordeal, Ms Pahl said many in the community were still coming to terms with the tragedy.

Her family is still living in a caravan amid the rubble of their former home.

"Some days I'm crying, some days I can't talk, some days I'm laughing. It is just stupid," she said.

"The whole thing is very upsetting. It is affecting our kids. But we are so thankful we are alive."

Several victims fear the coronial inquiry will be delayed by a change in state coroners. Outgoing coroner Wayne Chivell, who toured affected areas immediately after the blaze, has resigned to take up a position as a District Court judge.

His replacement has not yet been announced.

"It is very disappointing – the Government should have more sympathy and kept the same coroner until he finished his job," Ms Pahl said.

"The new coroner will have to go over everything and get a gist of the whole thing and that's going to take months. I'm very disheartened about the whole thing."

Source: http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,15812063%255E910,00.html

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Country Fire Service / Re: black tuesdau DVD
« on: July 01, 2005, 09:44:23 PM »
Yes I Have Seen It, I Am Still Trying To Get A Decent Copy, The One At The Station Had Graphic Problems & Was Not The Best, I Have Contacted Region & They Suggested Try The VFBA.

Any Thoughts On How To Obtain One.

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Country Fire Service / Re: NSWFB Wallet's
« on: June 29, 2005, 05:26:20 PM »
We Don't Need One, I Just Thought It Would Be A Good Idea & Wanted To See If Anyone Else Was Interested In The Idea.

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Country Fire Service / Re: NSWFB Wallet's
« on: June 28, 2005, 10:17:27 AM »
I Would Too, However I Think That They Would Only Look Good With The CFS Star Not The Taxi Sign, So If They Have The Taxi Sign I Wouldn't Buy One, It Just Wouldn't Look Right.

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SAMFS / Re: 133 - Where is it from?
« on: June 28, 2005, 10:13:18 AM »
That Look On His Face Would Be Priceless :-o

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SAMFS / Re: 133 - Where is it from?
« on: June 27, 2005, 04:42:26 PM »
My avatar picture is Laurel VFD's Seagrave.  Same as your last link.  Beutiful looking rig!

I Would Love One Of Those At Our Station.  Its A Nice Looking Beast.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Wet Weather Gear - Do you have it?
« on: June 27, 2005, 12:10:44 PM »
Kyeema Group bought 5 sets of pants and coats for each brigade.

Yes We Got Them, They Are Kept In The Trucks, However We Should Get Them Out More. The Other Day When We Responded I Only Had A Wet Weather Jacket, Couldnt Find The Pants LOL.  It Wasn't Raining That Much Any Way.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Karoonda Fire Station
« on: June 22, 2005, 02:15:38 PM »


The Station Looks Pretty Strong & Well Built To Me What Damage Occured?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Equipment Issue (Personal)
« on: June 20, 2005, 11:37:01 AM »
Standard PPE (Jacket & pants/overalls, boots, gloves, helmet) Is All We Get.

Bottled Water Is Provided On The Trucks.

Went To Fire & Rescue & Got Some Polo Shirts For When On The Fire Ground.

I Did Hear Something That We Might Be Getting A CFS Bag Which Could Be Used For Task Force Jobs, But As Of Yet Nothing Received.

Nomex Shirts, Yes Wouldn't Mind Getting Some Of Thoses.  Would Love A Bucket Hat, As Some Of The Older Members Received Them, However Being A New Member (8-9 Months) I Have Not Received One, However Have Required One On A Number Of Occations.

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SAMFS / Re: 204
« on: June 20, 2005, 11:27:35 AM »
Anyone Got A Pic To Post???

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SA Firefighter General / Re: BA Operators
« on: June 20, 2005, 11:20:13 AM »
Any latest mate, you done the course yet ?

Nope Level 2 Next Month (1 Day Course As I Have Down The BFF1 Course.

Once That Is Out Of The Way I Will Be Doing My BA First Chance I Get.l

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Country Fire Service / Re: new sticker for the car
« on: June 17, 2005, 03:39:58 PM »
And I, in my stubborn regard for tradition, have a fire star and have no desire to be mistaken for a taxi :-)

Stick's Hand Up To Hail Kat For A Taxi Pick Up LOL :-D

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Incident Operations / Re: Busy Night
« on: June 14, 2005, 10:51:36 AM »
We Weren't To Busy, We Were Called Out To About 4 Job's.  The One I Was One Was The Poor Old Guy Didn't Clean Out His Drain's, So The Water Filled Up In The Gutter & Leaked Into His Carport Roof Shorting Out The Power, Because Of The Carport Light.

We Cleaned The Drains, & Removed The Light Bulb From The Socket & Restored Power To The Rest Of The Home.

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CFS Cadet Corner / Re: what is going on with cadets?
« on: June 10, 2005, 12:59:31 PM »
That Is One Of The First Things We Are Told When Joining.  Eg If You Respond To An MVA & You Don't Feel Right With The Blood & So What Let The OIC Know So That They Can Assign You Another Task.  Traffic Control Is Usally The Default Option.

Everyone Have Raised Great Points & They Are One's That Need To Be Considered.

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Incident Operations / Re: Slow' crews too late to save home
« on: June 09, 2005, 02:19:18 PM »
Anyone read the "letters to the editor" section of the paper today, looks like the UFU have jumped on the story to push their case for more stations in the southern suburbs. It reads in the first part of the letter that people pay the same rate and get two different levels of service depending on what side of the border you live in.

At Least Something Good Might Come From Something Bad.

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So perhaps the media (CFS Media) should have contacted the stations or the ops centre for times.

Maybe But It Depends On What Time He Contacted The Department.  Eg If He Was Chasing The Details While The Fire Is Still Ablaze I Can Understand That The CFS & MFS Aren't Going To Take The Time To Disrupt Operations For The Sake Of A Media Report.

As For An Apoligy It Will Never Happen, Sad  :-( But True.

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CFS Cadet Corner / Re: what is going on with cadets?
« on: June 08, 2005, 05:07:37 PM »
But What If They Could Handle It Eg Not Yet, But After A Few Callouts They Can.  Eg It Could Be Classed As On The Job Training.

They Might Be Uneasy Or Unsure To Start With But After A Few They Become Used To It.  Without Them Attendings Scenes There Is No Way For Them To Get On The Job Training.  There Is Only So Much That Can Be Done At Trainings Sessions.

Eg You Start Them With Traffic So They Get Used To The Way Things Run, As They Start Learning More & More They Move On Into Other Things, While Getting Older & Mature At The Same Time.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: water alarm on new 34
« on: June 08, 2005, 04:47:12 PM »
Yes We Replaced Them Last Sunday On The 24.

Someone Forgot To Open The Valve Again Though So When We Were Out On The Job, Let's Just Say That The Water Got Low.  Nothing Major Though As It Was A Small Grassy & He Had A Tanker There To Fill Up From.

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