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Title: New Green Uniforms
Post by: aust_fire1 on December 10, 2006, 12:57:14 PM
While in Waikerie I saw several CFS people wearing Green 2 piece dress type uniforms.
Has anyone else seen them. I spoke to one of them about the uniform. It seems to be a half way between uniform, half way between Yellow firefighting and Dress uniform.

Has anyone here got a set of this already. If so, i would like to hear what you think  :-)
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: medevac on December 10, 2006, 01:10:57 PM
personally i think it looks a bit daft...

but anyway, i think its more of a staff uniform for staff in the field in ops roles & IMT...

i dont reckon many (if any) vollies are getting it....
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Darius on December 10, 2006, 01:13:36 PM

some of the R1 Ops brigade people (ie. volunteers) have them. I believe they had to buy them if they wanted them.
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: 5271rescue on December 10, 2006, 01:25:02 PM
They really look filtered horrible and who ever came up with them has got no idea about fashion or work wear,I understand they are only for paid staff only and to be worn in the field...SHAME SHAME SHAME
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: aust_fire1 on December 10, 2006, 01:30:35 PM
The Officer wearing the Green uniform indicated that it was being made available to all CFS members.

I hope it wont become a required piece of gear.
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Timbo on December 10, 2006, 03:07:59 PM
While in Waikerie I saw several CFS people wearing Green 2 piece dress type uniforms.
Has anyone else seen them. I spoke to one of them about the uniform. It seems to be a half way between uniform, half way between Yellow firefighting and Dress uniform.

Has anyone here got a set of this already. If so, i would like to hear what you think  :-)

1 word - HOT.  The shirts are the same material as the pants (ie Yakka, or King G) so very hot to wear.  Othes than that, great for any work that you will get dirty, but they are definiteky NOT designed for the fireground - only Yellows for that.

MrT
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on December 10, 2006, 08:17:42 PM
The CFS used to have Khaki coloured overalls  :-) that was back when were known as EFS now that was a classic colour  :-D
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: squiddy on December 11, 2006, 05:59:47 AM
The green is fugly
It makes the staff look like forestry workers
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Evac on December 11, 2006, 06:34:21 AM
These are available to volunteers. It will not be expected to be worn by everyone. They do not replace the yellows. They are ideal for Incident Managers, strike team leaders, sector commanders through to incident controllers, Fire Investigators etc where it is appropriate to be in uniform without the fire protection level of the yellows. Personally didn't think they looked that bad. Made those wearing them look professional. Rather than IMT personnel wearing jeans and any t-shirt with a cfs IMT vest or strike team leaders wearing turnout pants and a t shirt in a command car.
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: SA Firey on December 11, 2006, 04:17:04 PM
Saw a guy wearing that today in our station....Blue would look better :-D
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: lilmiss_firey on December 11, 2006, 05:06:16 PM
is there a picture of these 'awful uniforms'???
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: aust_fire1 on December 11, 2006, 09:09:59 PM
not sure where u would find a pic of them
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: SA Firey on December 12, 2006, 07:18:24 AM
is there a picture of these 'awful uniforms'???

Just picture it....dark green work shirt with a white "CFS STAR" logo on the left side and SACFS in 100mm letters on the back with lots of pockets even on the sleeves :lol:
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: oz fire on December 12, 2006, 08:10:10 AM
Also saw this at Waikerie - being worn by a Volunteer from the para Group who was on the IMT and also field ops - looked a lot better than jeans and a t-shirt or polo shirt - at least it was a professional look - as opposed to someone else I saw in the IMT in shorts and old t-shirt.

Would be excellent for fire investigation and all IMT work and starts to show CFS as a professional organisation - uniformed.
Pity it clashes though with the blue stuff instructors are wearing at the State Training centre - but thats CFS for you - many standards...
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: aust_fire1 on December 12, 2006, 08:36:26 AM
Well I have decided that its time for at least the Officers to start looking the part when representing the brigade at various things, eg promotions, school visits etc. I am sick of members having to wear their scrubber overalls to represent us. They are only issued 1 pr.
I have organised the brigage to fund fitting out the officers and members a 50% sub to be fitted as well.
I am the only one that has a full dress uniform, so it will be nice to see officers standing side by side at least looking the part.

I seen a local brigade in a christmas pagent recently and they really didnt look to good in their dirty overalls.

I would rather have good comments than bad about our appearance at these events.

Not everyone will agree with me, but that is life :-)
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Ryan on December 12, 2006, 08:41:41 AM
Yeah true but the blue Fire and Rescue t shirts look just as good, if not better.  Maybe that should be made a public uniform with yakka pants or dark blue pants.  Its what I wear to CFS stuff and is cool not overly hot, looks smart too. 

Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: aust_fire1 on December 12, 2006, 08:48:11 AM
yes...i have seen these Fire & Rescue shirts around...will look at that option
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Pipster on December 12, 2006, 08:56:01 AM
I think we are now discussing two different topics here - the green uniform, as I understand it, is a working uniform - designed for people to wear while off the fireground, but active for an incident.

It is not meant to replace the current CFS khaki dress uniform.

There was much discussion about the uniform, but finally decided on the green.   If they were blue, then they could look like various police (who wear the same style, obtained from the same uniform supplier!).  Also in blue, they may look like MFS.   We should have our own, distinct uniform, so that it is clear who we belong to.  (And before anyone says we look like ambos in green, the CFS working uniform is a very dark green, and nothing like the ambos)

Pip
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Ryan on December 12, 2006, 09:06:47 AM
Not really discussing 2 different topics, its all uniform.

Green looks scheiße, how about red or will we then look too much like Ferrari F1 team....
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: TillerMan on December 12, 2006, 09:25:57 AM
They are gay...
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: SA Firey on December 12, 2006, 01:00:14 PM
Khaki should be the uniform of choice as we have had it for so long and it looks a lot better than  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Smokeydk on December 12, 2006, 01:01:56 PM
Ekkkkkkk.........Sorry... pipster ....the dark haired lady on TV news recently talking about the bushfires was a CFS person wearing dark green not an ambo...like many I know thought :?
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: 5271rescue on December 12, 2006, 06:46:11 PM
tell me are the green uniforms fire proff??? if not they should not be on the fireground :roll:
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: medevac on December 12, 2006, 06:52:22 PM
there not fireproof, nor are they intended to be on the fireground.

there are "three uniforms"

-firefighting PPE; this is either your proban, nomex, PBI or whatever, and used by operational vollies at incidents undertaking firefighter roles...

-"green fuglies"; this is operational uniform for staff or vollies undertaking ops and planning roles, or fire investigation or what have you...

-Khaki "dress" uniform; for day to day use by staff or and use by any member for special occasions, celebrations, presentations, etc...



does that clear anything up for those out of it?

IMO the green stuff looks dreadful... but at the same time it is differant from any other services, and designed to be practical not pretty.
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: filtered on December 12, 2006, 07:14:03 PM
It will be interesting to see how the green uniforms handle wear and tear.

I don't like them now, but I can see them fading into a really horrible washed out colour very quickly which will be an even worse look...
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Timbo on December 12, 2006, 07:21:51 PM
tell me are the green uniforms fire proff??? if not they should not be on the fireground :roll:

 Re: New Green Uniforms
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Quote from: aust_fire1 on December 10, 2006, 02:57:14 PM
While in Waikerie I saw several CFS people wearing Green 2 piece dress type uniforms.
Has anyone else seen them. I spoke to one of them about the uniform. It seems to be a half way between uniform, half way between Yellow firefighting and Dress uniform.

Has anyone here got a set of this already. If so, i would like to hear what you think 


1 word - HOT.  The shirts are the same material as the pants (ie Yakka, or King G) so very hot to wear.  Othes than that, great for any work that you will get dirty, but they are definiteky NOT designed for the fireground - only Yellows for that.

MrT
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Pipster on December 12, 2006, 10:46:36 PM
I have a set of gear, which is the same material, but different colour.

They are hot (although not as hot as PPE!), but they are easily washed, don't show the dirt, and if they are the same sort of things as the gear I have, they don't fade much when washed...

Pip     :-)
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: 5271rescue on December 13, 2006, 05:56:24 AM
how many uniforms do we need??? and how many colours do we need???
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Ryan on December 13, 2006, 08:25:32 AM
filtered this uniform and give us nomex shirts we can wear on hot days at things like MVA's.  Doing traffic duty on a 40 degree today is scheiße when you have to wear full PPE or even being pump operator on a small scale fire and mop up etc.  Who gives a rats if we look like MFS its practicability. 
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: backburn on December 13, 2006, 09:59:34 AM
tell me are the green uniforms fire proff??? if not they should not be on the fireground :roll:

No uniform are Fire proff. The Green uniforms have been around for as long as I have been in the services and thats around 10 years, I have ordered a few for our group and the are the Dress Uniform for all if we would like to. We just add rank markings to them.
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Pipster on December 13, 2006, 11:46:08 AM
Aahmmm, the green uniforms arrived only this year...they certainly haven't been around for 10 years.......you aren't talking about the khaki uniforms..   ?      :|

Pip
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: SA Firey on December 15, 2006, 02:33:33 PM
Aahmmm, the green uniforms arrived only this year...they certainly haven't been around for 10 years.......you aren't talking about the khaki uniforms..   ?      :|

Pip

<Agrees with Pip>

 :-D
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: aust_fire1 on December 16, 2006, 04:58:06 AM
Yes, I think Backburn you are thinking of the khaki dress uniform. These Greens are a very recent option.
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: backburn on December 16, 2006, 12:21:52 PM
Aahmmm, the green uniforms arrived only this year...they certainly haven't been around for 10 years.......you aren't talking about the khaki uniforms..   ?      :|

Pip

ooooppss i forgot that green and khaki are the same colour to me. I need my glasses fixed. Sorry.
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on December 16, 2006, 05:05:25 PM
Department Of Sustainability And Environment in Victoria have green overalls for their fire fighting uniform that are nomex im not real sure thought  :|
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: Pipster on December 16, 2006, 10:56:01 PM
Different green & different uniform.

DEH / National Parks people were trialling the  "Kermit the frog" green PPE, a few years ago, but went back to yellow.  I don't know the reasons behind that

Pip
Title: Re: New Green Uniforms
Post by: SA Firey on December 17, 2006, 12:19:31 PM
DEH have been wearing a combination yellow/green Level 1 shirt, or yellows at recent jobs.