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Country Fire Service / Re: More UFU crap
« on: January 30, 2008, 03:26:33 PM »
How ironic is it to say  "MFS Country Station's"...Metro..Country...ehh...METRY??

  Yeah or how ironic is this....Country..Metro..what the? Countros!!!



  So the head of that station would they be called the Fat cont fat cont fat cont fat controller ask's Big Yellowgongbeater who stutters at the most inappropriate time.  :-D

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Country Fire Service / Re: More UFU crap
« on: January 30, 2008, 03:22:28 PM »
The article needs to be read in conjunction with the UFU submission to the F&ES review. intergrated tri service, rather than the one all encompassing service they were hoping for! What they want is to do it all (except for the stuff that takes lots of man power & time)And with CFS doing rural fire fighting & SES doing storm & flood non glory work, SAF&RS members will be UFU, the power of the union increases & the vollie associations decreases. Once the volunteers are subdued then they will start on the retained crews trying to justify full timers in their positions. Why? - easy more full time members, means more union dues (the union has more money to play with) and everyones happy!
Well done UFU going public with something that should have been kept internal, but remember the next time that your members have a job that goes sour - the media will remember your comments & so will the property owners - I don't think they will be saying "oh well you did your best".
Interestingly SAFECOM spoke for both service chiefs - more intergration?
Anyway enough of my rant :-D
cheers


  Some good points in there chook, but further to that.  
 Knowing full well that the minister does have someone read these posts, and orders ministerial's at the drop of a hat, we have a current state government full of former UFU members and officials, which is slowly but surely using its political leverage to its advantage Minister Zollo take note there are more than ample SACFS volunteers in marginal electoral areas who don't like lip treatment and are swinging voters (yes some of us know how the political game is played). My opinion only is that the CFSVA is weak on issues such as these.  CFSVA representative members: these are the issues that get up the nose of your members! yet we hear diddly squat from you in the media supporting us and defending us, yes occasionally we may hear you on ABC891, but we want more than that, we've also yet to hear anything supportive from SAFECOM, SAMFS, SACFS or CFSVA WHERE IS OUR SUPPORT ? and yes Chook I also agree with good on the UFU, they are there to represent their members and are doing a great job at it, maybe the CFSVA can take a leaf from their book and play the same game. SACFS members are sick of having the boot put into them constantly in the media without even a murmur of response or support!
  Further question then is the CFSVA hampered in its actions and response's due to where its funding and sourcing comes from?

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SAMFS / Re: Paid Firefighters
« on: October 22, 2007, 11:50:32 AM »
We forget that being a paid MFS firie isn't really a huge claim to fame, seeing as though there are CFS stations that attend more calls than many MFS stations. Not to mention, its not like MFS attend *that* many decent jobs.


Crownie was the first strike, so that'd make you number two,, here, tissue's all round.   :-D :-D :-D

Comrade, we are fellow paid brothers of the flame! Don't get snotty because you're beloved SAMFS aren't the be all and end all of firefighting :P

  Ha ha I concur! Beside's never for one second did I allude to the fact or imply that I am a member of the SAMFS nor have I ever implied or denied that i'm a member of the SACFS, there is more than 1 paid fire service in South Australia. just being that the SAMFS is the lowest paid ha ha ha and is the public supplied one.
  I just derive smiles from some of the over the top and most times ill informed responses that many poster's make to people who are obviously taking the mickey!  :-D

I enjoy a good baiting just as much as the next bloke, there was no reaction to the bait, merely a suggestion towards those poor persons who are all wrapped around the axles about SAMFS :P

 *Snap* point taken moving on to next emotional outburst.. ha ha ha

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SAMFS / Re: Paid Firefighters
« on: October 22, 2007, 10:55:03 AM »
We forget that being a paid MFS firie isn't really a huge claim to fame, seeing as though there are CFS stations that attend more calls than many MFS stations. Not to mention, its not like MFS attend *that* many decent jobs.


Crownie was the first strike, so that'd make you number two,, here, tissue's all round.   :-D :-D :-D

Comrade, we are fellow paid brothers of the flame! Don't get snotty because you're beloved SAMFS aren't the be all and end all of firefighting :P

  Ha ha I concur! Beside's never for one second did I allude to the fact or imply that I am a member of the SAMFS nor have I ever implied or denied that i'm a member of the SACFS, there is more than 1 paid fire service in South Australia. just being that the SAMFS is the lowest paid ha ha ha and is the public supplied one.
  I just derive smiles from some of the over the top and most times ill informed responses that many poster's make to people who are obviously taking the mickey!  :-D

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SAMFS / Re: Paid Firefighters
« on: October 21, 2007, 04:23:13 PM »
We forget that being a paid MFS firie isn't really a huge claim to fame, seeing as though there are CFS stations that attend more calls than many MFS stations. Not to mention, its not like MFS attend *that* many decent jobs.


Crownie was the first strike, so that'd make you number two,, here, tissue's all round.   :-D :-D :-D

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SAMFS / Re: Paid Firefighters
« on: October 21, 2007, 04:21:24 PM »


(apart from the fact that MFS fires have been proven to burn a lot hotter than CFS fires)

So the MFS light fires now as well?
Does this imply that CFS does?  Do you know something that the Nomad task force should? ha ha ha

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SAMFS / Re: Paid Firefighters
« on: October 20, 2007, 10:32:35 PM »
No seriously everyone, if the government decided to pay you a "retainer" to be in the CFS, how many of you would turn it down?

and secondly,

 I have read posts on this forum before that you believe the CFS is the exactly the same as the MFS except of course the MFS get paid.

Why then do a lot of people on this forum want to leave the CFS and join the "Mets", one reason only......money

(apart from the fact that MFS fires have been proven to burn a lot hotter than CFS fires)


 :-D :-D Oh "ding ding" that must be the start of round two! :-D :-D
  I'm just gonna type and grab me some cyber tissues :lol:

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SAMFS / Re: Paid Firefighters
« on: October 20, 2007, 10:04:48 PM »
I love getting paid to attend fire calls. Why the filtered would you do it for free. :? :? :?

 :-D :-D :-D  Dead set it's like shooting fish in a barrel, geeze some of you people are easy :-D :-D :-D  Oh I can hear it all now "yeah but he/she shouldn't put inflaming posts like that!!" :cry: It's obviously been done to draw a reaction, and suprise suprise, out come the hearts on the sleeves. I don't particularly like K99's posts, but i get a huge smile everytime someone cry's a river in response.  :-D

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Hypotheticals / Re: I really hope this doesn't happen.
« on: November 12, 2006, 08:46:15 PM »


So essentaially there is a tanker on fire in the down tunnel. the condition of the two drivers is unknown.

Who should get responded and how do you puth the fire out?
  Who should get responded?
 Easy the resources already allocated for such an incident in the response plan for the tunnels.
  Tanker on fire downtrack, drivers conditions unknown ahhhhh If conditions allow attempt SAR, if not play upslope make furtherest entry into and fill the tunnel with HiEx foam. bund off downhill exit to restrict product run off, job done and if required assist Coroner with deceased retrieval later.
  Yes cold hard, but practical simple. 8-)

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Hypotheticals / Re: Awesome new hypothetical
« on: November 12, 2006, 08:36:38 PM »
And no they weren't vollies in a 5 call out a year brigade, they've got extensive experience in an urban fringe brigade that also has huge rural risks.  :evil:

Pity they didn't learn anything from that 'extensive experience' otherwise we'd have decent urban capabilities.  :wink:
Ahh your cynacism is noted, but I do believe that the vast majority of urban fringe brigades are more than happy with the appliances allocated to them. Do I detect that you wish to pursure a discussion along the lines of changing BRT's to BWT's?  Won't happen coz the rules were laid out and simple, and heavens forbid you may be labelled as a gongbeater   :lol:

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Hypotheticals / Re: Awesome new hypothetical
« on: November 11, 2006, 07:03:44 PM »
Instead of some brigades getting equipment or appliance's they don't need because they "know" someone???
  That's the biggest cop out and bunch of bollocks I've ever heard!  All appliances are allocated according to local risks.  It comes down to some brigades thinking they've got higher risks than they actually have, and other brigade's not realizing the risks they truly have.  People need to understand the "good ole'" days of brigades designing and purchasing their appliances and equipment are over.  The SACFS has moved on from 99% of the state having Chevy Blitz's while the other 1%(with sufficient finances) have Top of the range appliances that are actually not matched with their local risks.
  And further to this my opinion (and after all it is only my opinion) says that such a statement is an affront to the work of Arthur,Sandy and Phil.  What most of the ignorant people don't know, is that Arthur and Phil (Sandy i'm not sure of) are VOLLIES and were VOLLIES well long before they gained employment with the organisation. And no they weren't vollies in a 5 call out a year brigade, they've got extensive experience in an urban fringe brigade that also has huge rural risks.  :evil:
  So now i'm off my soapbox, back to the thread, oh and Camo you feeling busted? Yep very close to Gongbeating

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Branch
« on: November 08, 2006, 08:54:05 PM »
TB25's are popular for a reason, that is user friendliness for lower skill people.  Weapon of choice for skilled firies would still be Akron 1720.  Others do the job but fall to bits earlier (hence cheaper), Harder to service, or the ability to service, Rob user of water in order to operate etc...shall I go on...Akron for this little black duck, cost is nothing when its my life behind it.  And yes what are brigades (supposedly skilled firefighters) doing with smooth bore branches and TB25's still on their appliances anyway, someone should be shot!   8-)

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Hypotheticals / Re: Awesome new hypothetical
« on: November 08, 2006, 08:49:11 PM »
MMMMM good to see healthy debate,
  Almost a couple of gongbeating post's already, read the top, no talk of Scania's, Sky Jets etc.....that constitutes gongbeating.
  For the record, the one part of the Aust Road Rules that still applies is everyone must have a seatbelt, there are also COSO's that deal with wearing them (eventhough we are exempt when going to a call P1) So therefore how many appliances have a 7 person capability? Count the available seatbelts peeps. Don't think for one minute that SAPOL will not investigate or attempt to prosecute you (being the driver, NOT THE OIC) for any breach's of the Road Rules there are several CFS drivers who have been involved in MVA's who have either been investigated and or threatened with prosecution for this to not be serious!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: MFS #1
« on: November 07, 2006, 11:58:09 AM »
Big Yellow Gongbeater you live in the past!
Your gong might have beaten well in the past, but now it not as loud.
But on aggregate you are the winner.
Fire frog is that silly ?
:lol: In the past ha ha ha
One only has to check the arro website to get a handle on placings from the Australisians. From memory its www.arro.org.au.  MMM oh gee have a look 2005 overall winner Unlimited Pit Salisbury MFS. SES Directors Shield Laura SA. mmmmm No CFS brigades listed there, lets look at 2006 oh gee highest placed SA team Oh No  :-o Salisbury SAMFS 6th best placed SACFS team Blackwood in 8th. Well well well that's at the national level.
  Oh and who is Arro,,,Australisian Road Rescue Organisation. Check the facts first kiddies before you bag me   :lol: :lol: :lol:
And before you all get too carried away, great competition teams just mean they have the time to train for competitions.  There are plenty of awesome SAMFS, SACFS and SASES brigades that display fantastic "down the road, on the job" road crash skills who don't compete at comps.
 Oh and by the way, it's never been my gong to beat, I leave that to the dreamer wannabe's.   :lol:
  My goal in life is to highlight their inadequacies.  :evil:
 

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Hypotheticals / Re: Awesome new hypothetical
« on: November 07, 2006, 11:38:46 AM »
Beater, what about if you need to boost? 34P couldn't do 4in and 4 out. Or in some areas you may need to use a ground monitor and multiple 64mm hoses which a 34P won't handle.
  4 in 4 out is the ideal.  But nearly all boosting systems only require 2 in 2 out minimum, and current pumps on 24/34P's meet the minimum. And if you're worried about Highrise buildings suddenly popping up everywhere in SACFS areas, go have a look at the booster setup's in Qld, many 30 storey plus are 2in 2 out.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Branch
« on: November 04, 2006, 08:24:37 PM »
  Well let me try and respond without upsetting everyone.
Tillerman is correct, taking handles off is just someone's opinion being forced upon everyone, have a look at the movie files on the Akron website and you'll see why they have the handle.
  The guy from Greenhill moved to Qld.
And yes they should be serviced, there are two types of service. A field service kit is available for the Akron ($80 approx) and a major service kit (should be done by a tech).
  Oh and for the record, the No1 selling branch in SA....TB25, how is that you may ask? Well contrary to previous statements, they are in fact easier to use, service and maintain, and also contrary to many peoples thoughts, there are more than two fire services in SA.  The industrial fire sector is huge, think mines, gas plants, aviation etc and the amounts of equipment they require for people of different levels of training is huge. Hence the reason they go for the TB25 for all their basic fire needs, only their firies get the more tricked up gear.

  Have I offended anyone? Maybe i'm not trying hard enough :-)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: MFS #1
« on: November 04, 2006, 08:07:34 PM »
let's not let this get into an unfriendly debate.

We all know debating an irrelevant thing like who is or isn't better is futile and a waste of time.

I will lock the thread if it gets silly! :|
  Awwwww c'mon Firefrog don't be like that, I like silly it keeps me entertained..   :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hypotheticals / Re: Awesome new hypothetical
« on: November 04, 2006, 07:53:19 PM »
Oops comp meltdown

  Well peeps going well keep it going, and remember don't be a Gongbeater :-)

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Hypotheticals / Re: Awesome new hypothetical
« on: November 04, 2006, 07:44:18 PM »
No 3 14s per brigade woulld result in various brigades responding 3 trucks with 2 people per appliance.

I suggest either giving each brigade an urban pumper type appliance and a appliance about the size of the current 24s for rural jobs.

or just make give 24p/34p bigger pumps that work better at high pressure so they actauly have a good pumping capacity.
MMMM getting close to gongbeating there, ask yourself this question if it's all about high pressure and pumping capacity.
  An Akron 1720/1725 series branch (the most common in SACFS service) has a maximum flow rate of ?(how many L per minute) at its maximum (optimal) pressure of 700kpa?
  The answer will let you see that crapping on about increased pressures and pump capacities is a dead end argument as any CFS pumper can handle the required flow rate and pressure for 2 lines 2 lengths. :lol:

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SAMFS / Re: Mt Gambier MFS going full time
« on: November 04, 2006, 07:27:06 PM »


tssk tssk tssk, Medevac personal attacks I mean really  :-D
"cocky as filtered" yeah pretty much you can afford to be when ya actually know ya stuff  :-D

"full of filtered" man that cuts to the bone  :lol: as opposed to  soo many of the "supposed learned ones" who post here and have actually attended less fire calls in the last ten years than I attended last week :-D


Dunno Gong kinda sound like a full timer?
Ha ha ha ha, love ya work MundCFS, just coz I passed the Pat1 doesn't necessarily mean i'm a SAMFS fulltime firie. I could've failed the Pat2 and or interview. And I may just be a member of one of an extremely busy Urban Fringe CFS brigade (remember there's a huge difference in call outs between the top 10 responding brigades and the rest of the state)   :-P

"The seek him here, they seek him there"

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SA Firefighter General / Re: MFS #1
« on: November 04, 2006, 07:16:24 PM »
mmm so many quotes, so little space, well lets kick it off   :lol:
Wannabe paid ff?, well that would make me a vollie  :lol:
Fire03Rescue you may just want to look over the results of the last 3 (and only) Safecom RCR Challenge results before you post such absurd comments (Overall Salisbury MFS would be the winners over a 3 year aggregate)
Chirp/Vibrate and which SAMFS team would you be talking about? Riverland combined? Adelaide "A" Shift? or Salisbury (ahhh that's right 2 members both from Blondeside CFS out of a 6 man team)
yes Ryan Laura SES are a fantastic RCR competition brigade, but what is this topic? MFS struth  I would ask you to keep SES related comments in the SES thread!
(Oh take a pill, only teasin ya):lol:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: MFS #1
« on: November 04, 2006, 02:18:19 PM »
Im only guessing, but over time I have observed that yours and K99's posts occur when a particular shift is on duty.


Not that there is anything wrong with adding to and assisiting this forum with your knowlegde and experience, but I for one pick up on the often snarly and sarcastic comments, and im assuming others do to. (Not saying that all of them are by any means...  :-) )

A little professionalism is all that could be asked for.

Stay safe.  :-)
  All I can say is this:
Dang straight i'm sarcastic and snarly.  And yep I reackon others would pick it too, so don't think its just you being all ultra sensitive, coz its not :lol:
  And as to the question of what shift i'm on, well it goes like this, am I even a paid firefighter, I can't ever actually recall stating whether i'm a full time firey or vollie, so i'll just let you keep guessing.   :lol:

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SAMFS / Re: Mt Gambier MFS going full time
« on: November 04, 2006, 02:08:21 PM »
Quote
Now, can we grow up a little and leave the snarly and sarcastic posts in the gutter where they belong?

  That hurt, I want my moderator rep to take action on this  :x

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SA Firefighter General / Re: MFS #1
« on: November 04, 2006, 02:04:59 PM »
Quiet shift today boys?
And you ask this because?  :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hypotheticals / Awesome new hypothetical
« on: November 04, 2006, 02:03:57 PM »
  Hey here's a hypothetical for you all.

  A discussion about practical and functional fire appliances that meet the requirments of the SA Country Fire Service, without some gongbeater ranting, raving and generally crapping on about Scania's, Type 3 pumpers, Sky Jets, Bronto's, La Frances etc.
  I'm betting it can't be done.  Someone just won't be able to help themselves   :lol:

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