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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: December 13, 2011, 04:47:37 PM »
Quote from: mengcfs on December 13, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
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MFS: *CFSRES INC0040 13/12/11 14:46 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE P1 68 PRINCES HWY MENINGIE MAP:SMN 1 J 4,CALLER: ==4 CARS. OUTSIDE SWAN FARM MACHINERY :MEN29 MENG34P :

SES did not arrive at this job (as rescue). They weren't defaulted either?
3 possible scenarios;

a: They acknowledged and then did not respond.
b: Meningie CFS (34P) is in the system as a dual response rescue.
c: The system didn't work.

Your thoughts....


I'd say A

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: December 11, 2011, 10:20:40 PM »
Al, when that comes online we will receive automatic notifications for events warranting fire or ses attendance. 

Feb is the rumor.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: December 11, 2011, 11:35:31 AM »
InterCAD [the link between SAAS/SApol/AdelaideFire's CAD] is yet to be turned on... So still relying on phone calls between comcens.

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HAZMAT / Re: First alarm response
« on: December 10, 2011, 05:05:16 PM »
Quote from: 6739264 on December 10, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
Do we then further ask about responses that come out with ==Alarm level updated to 2== but don't actually consist of a 2nd Alarm assignment?

What kind of incident was that for?

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HAZMAT / Re: First alarm response
« on: December 07, 2011, 11:42:05 AM »
SOP has not been changed.

SACAD has been programmed with that response plan by the CFS.



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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: December 07, 2011, 11:36:49 AM »
Quote from: FlameTrees on December 07, 2011, 10:56:02 AM
And then lets throw some more issues in

Logistics vehicles
The Region 1 pod
The Region 2 OSV (Command Bus) or staging trailer (this can operate stand alone from a vehicle)
The Region 3 hook truck
Region 5's command bus

State Ops have their own vehicle

I'm sure most of the Ops Brigades have their own command cars as well (I'm pretty sure Regions 1,2,5 and 6 all have some). Command cars are easy enough, but what about the specialist vehicles...where do they fit into it all?


They are all in the system and can be attached to jobs.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: December 07, 2011, 09:42:26 AM »
Flame trees you seem to misunderstand. Callsigns in CAD need standardization and need to fall in line with CFS call signs.

My point is the call sign in CAD should be the actual appliance callsign. There's no need for a work around of dual callsigns. If the appliance is a stand alone HAZMAT it's a 28, it its a 34p with HAZMAT then it's CAD call sign should read 34p.
Al, In the mean time it would help if people come up on radio using the call signs they are dispatched with.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: December 06, 2011, 08:36:06 PM »
Do CFS bulk water carriers have '42' written on the side of them?

Nope.... callsigns need standardising and simplification.

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HAZMAT / Re: First alarm response
« on: December 06, 2011, 08:30:11 PM »
Yes, confirming for you that although CFS SOP states two HAZMAT and one tanker, SACAD responds only one HAZMAT and one tanker on first alarm.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: December 04, 2011, 11:12:13 AM »
Quote from: safireservice on December 04, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
Have seen a few pages with brigade codes on them but they dont actually seem to have received the page? 

For some reason it leaves there call sign on response pages until they ack even if it's not re paging them.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: CFS using K-codes
« on: December 04, 2011, 09:46:29 AM »
Quote from: Mic10110 on December 04, 2011, 09:22:26 AM
SOP 7.1 Dated August 2011 says K-Codes are not to be used by CFS resources.....



Cool, looks like they weren't then.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: December 03, 2011, 08:11:43 PM »
Haha.... Must...not...lose...control!!!!!!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:59:05 PM »
03-12-11 18:47:04   MFS: *CFSRES INC0080 03/12/11 18:46 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, : @CFS - ONE TREE HILL,MAP:ADL 54 E14,TG 102, ==BURNPUMP19 TO O.T.H. STATION. TG 102 :BURNPUMP19 : - CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
03-12-11 18:46:55   BURN INFO: Youre about to get responded as a COQ to one tree hill stn for rescue coverage 3/12/2011 18:46:41 - CFS Burnside Info

Surely you'd just let the response page happen...?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: December 03, 2011, 03:05:05 PM »
Looks more like a large scale test to me Jeff

Procesure is rhat Change of quarters appliance either get told on there mct message if it's a multi change, or just get a response with the appropriate station as the location.


Good news for comms is that we are now able to send messages to MCTs only again ;)

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SAMFS / Re: RECRUITMENT 2011
« on: December 02, 2011, 12:02:40 PM »
Quote from: King Prawn Curry on December 02, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Is it all much of a muchness? I've been quoted about $1,200 all up for MR lessons and test.

Any feedback would be much appreciated.



I'd say get another quote....

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: December 02, 2011, 12:01:18 PM »
Quote from: FlameTrees on December 02, 2011, 09:13:09 AM
Just noticed it appears SES has a separate system to MFS/CFS, their incident numbers appear to be on their own (ie at 1040, SES Inc 0002 just dispatched for a building impact, yet the MFS dispatch is on 0023 for the same job.....)


They get a 'ses event' we get a 'fire event'......

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: December 02, 2011, 07:13:16 AM »
A bit of additional time trying to chase them up as thy had been out to multiple similar minor incidents over the past short while. Those attempts were unsuccessful so out went the default only to receive a radio MSG shortly after from Gladstone that they were on scene.

Do yourselves, your neighboring brigades and Adelaide Fire a solid and don't forget those acknowledgements and mobile messages.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: November 26, 2011, 09:08:59 AM »
Quote from: Alan J on November 25, 2011, 10:03:59 AM
\\ Roll on in-cab data terminals.



Ive been peddling the idea of smartphones in all appliances.
Instant GPS for AVL [vehicle location] and whack in an app to make it receive events, generate maps and directions and send status updates... could even do voice requests.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: November 24, 2011, 05:58:15 PM »
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on November 24, 2011, 11:32:41 AM
hmmm i had heard 6 and 12, and thought those times were from time of page. Hopefullya quiet night monday night otherwise if its busy they may not cut it over???

It would have to be pretty drastic weather or similar for the cutover to not be done. Even if there is a major job happening i would expect it to still go ahead, may just delay an hour or two. There is a lot of pressure to get it on with that deadline.

Not sure exact time you can expect to see SACAD dispatching, multiple incident procedure will begin at some point on the night shift of 28/11 and dispatching will still be conducted by BOMS, and then with a bit of luck it should be all sorted by the early hours of the 29th.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 20, 2011, 08:09:12 PM »
As long as CFSRES triggers the bells to drop and the lights come on it doesn't matter too much. Officers are paid to where there pagers and should be capable of responding via that.

CFS should be capable of responding to a page with CFSRES an incident type and a location... we didnt have TGs on response messaging before about two years ago. I'm sure they'd manage.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 17, 2011, 08:53:18 AM »
Rehearsal for the SACAD changeover, and testing contingency paging system.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: November 09, 2011, 11:55:42 AM »
For those who can't access the CFS members only site.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: November 09, 2011, 11:52:58 AM »
Quote from: vsteve01 on November 09, 2011, 10:17:25 AM

Is it saying that the 60min default is not automatically reset to available and that we need to advise AF that we can be undefaulted?

During those 60mins it will not be considered for response. At 60mins it prompts Adelaide Fire to chase you up via region. If the brigade contacts Adelaide Fire and says it is available before then it will be booked back on.

Quote from: vsteve01 on November 09, 2011, 10:17:25 AM
Also the bit about 14's not being responded except if is the only resource or a customised response plans exist could prove interesting

This is not quite accurate.

QRVs are actually the only appliances not reccomended for response. Light Tankers are still in response plans, but the system will give preference to reponding a heavy tanker.

ie; for an urban event the system will give preference to responding;
1/pumper
then 2/heavy tanker with pumper attribute [24p or 34p]
then 3/heavy tanker [24 or 34]
then 4/light tanker [14]

for a rual event type they system will give preference to responding;
1/heavy tanker
then 2/heavy tanker with pumper attribute
then 3/light tanker [14]
then 4/ pumper

So if a heavy tanker is available in the appropriate backup beat, it will get turned out before a light tanker. Lets remember a 14, or now a light tanker, does not actually constitute an appliance per CFS standards of response. Hope that clears it up.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: November 07, 2011, 12:38:38 PM »
Quote from: shoes1970 on November 07, 2011, 07:03:29 AM
Doing some CRIIMSON training the other night, and I noticed that there is now an "arrival" option on the drop down list on the summary screen (the main one).

Now it may have always been there and I only noticed due to this current discussion, or it could be new ready for this.

If so, could be interesting, because I'm pretty sure there aren't too many brigades who have CRIIMSON trained radio operators to enter an arrival message. Unless the radio operator happens to be part of the group IMT as well.

Always been there. CRIIMSON does not push information to SACAD though.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: October 28, 2011, 06:30:52 PM »
CFS are not booking K3 at scenes.

They are only ack-ing, booking mobile [K1] and clear of call [k4/k5].

Note, before booking clear of call, you must be back in your own area, or close enough to be an effective response to it; ie, burnside 24 booking clear of call when they are still at Mt Barker would be innapropriate. As the responses in the CAD works on zones and pre-designated station response orders to those zones, not the appliances last known location.

It will not work to 'just pick the closest resource' until AVL and basic MDTs are implemented by CFS.... when that comes around i can just imagine all the fully crewed CFS appliances on 'driver training' in the CBD just waiting for a fire alarm, lmao.


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