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Country Fire Service / Re: New CFS pumpers
« on: September 21, 2009, 12:43:04 AM »
As far as the Dennis is concerned, I know a bloke who knows a bloke in the UK who
is a fire service mechanic.  Apparently, that particular Dennis was a lemon in the
UK too. It was gotten rid-of for that reason. Other vehicles of its vintage are
still in service.

Or so the story goes. If true, it is hardly a fair test of the appliance type.


127
SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: September 21, 2009, 12:38:55 AM »
Since when were CFS vollies responsible to enforce the Environmental Protection Act, or any other Act other than our own ??

As I understand it, we are only interested in schedule permits under our own Act,
and ensuring that permit holders comply with the Regs.  Outside of that, we'd
only be interested if the relevant authority or land-holder called us. Even then
we don't give a rat's whether it is legal or illegal.

Am I missing something important here ??

cheers

128
SA Firefighter General / Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: September 20, 2009, 08:07:43 PM »
19:14:46   20-09-09   STOP CALL 1 ILLEGAL BURN EXTUINGISHED.

Illegal?
At this time of year?
Under what Act?


129
Country Fire Service / Re: New CFS pumpers
« on: September 19, 2009, 12:41:51 AM »
Not neccessarily in favour of the little pumper idea, but it is reasonable way
to get a decent pump close to fires down some of the laneways up in them thar
hills. I can think of a few within a few km that our old 24 is unpleasantly
tight. Our 34 just can't go there. These are bitumen through-roads, not driveways.  And 24 is due for repplacement with an even bigger 34. 

Once you add parked cars, the smaller vehicle gets better again.
While the big pumper has the muscle to shove parked cars around, there
sometimes isn't an out-of-the-way place to shove them ...


130
Country Fire Service / Re: New CFS pumpers
« on: September 17, 2009, 12:52:24 AM »
Of course, it would be even cheaper again to mount the big pump on a trailer.
To be towed behind the Hyundai van of course...


131
Country Fire Service / Re: Region 1 group boundary rationalisation proposal
« on: September 17, 2009, 12:50:19 AM »
Fewer GO's to argue with, and take up precious paid staff time, on irrelevancies such as response capability & community safety...  :evil:

132
SA Firefighter General / Re: Bushfire taskforce recommendations
« on: September 17, 2009, 12:37:20 AM »
Don't hold your breath....
The screed I saw only mentioned sending messages to mobiles with a home address
in the affected area.
Not yet seriously considering cell broadcast, which sends an SMS to all devices
affiliated to a particular cell. Cell broadcast falls down a little in hilly
areas serviced by long-range technologies like Telstra's Next G The cell your
phone is affiliated to is not necessarily the closest one. Your best line-of-
sight connection may be to a cell many km away. Especially true if you are in a
gully on the hills face overlooking Adelaide metro.

cheers

133
Incidents / Re: Myer Fire
« on: September 15, 2009, 09:32:53 PM »
I guess we can put a rakehoe line around the building to stop the spread.. :-)

Or back-burn from the third floor.

A bit risky CFS CoQ to Wakefield St  :lol:


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SA Firefighter General / Re: Bushfire taskforce recommendations
« on: September 15, 2009, 09:07:35 PM »
I see the bleeding heart greens are already wee-wee-weeing about the 20metre
rule. Adelaide Hills will be turned into bare earth, the end of the world is
upon us, etc, etc.


135
SA Firefighter General / Re: Stay or Go Policy
« on: September 15, 2009, 09:04:43 PM »
I'd like to point out that "Stay of Go" is not the policy of any Australian Fire Service & never was.
It's the filtered child of a media that can't think in whole sentences.
The AFAC & Service policy has for years been
Prepare your home, Stay and be prepared to Defend, or Leave Early in the day.

But that is too complicated for the popular press, so they shortened it to
something never intended (stay or go), and easily manipulated into the deadly
"Fight or Flight" headline and message.  
By doing so, I believe the media is directly responsible for a great many
bushfire deaths.  Now, to cover their own backsides, we now see the media
blaming the fire services & scientists for a phrase which is of their own
making, not ours.

I see "Prepare, Act, Survive" as being something so simplified that the press
can't butcher it.  It also pushes the message that people are responsible to
act for their own safety.

Not entirely happy with it, but under the circumstances, it is probably as good
as we are going to get.

cheers

136
Country Fire Service / Re: Region 1 group boundary rationalisation proposal
« on: September 15, 2009, 08:50:09 PM »
Imagine how much money could be saved by installing paid Groupies - people
answerable to the minister rather than the vols...

"We want to buy a..."
"NO"

"We need a..."
"NO"

:evil:

Then there is the reduced time impost on Regions & HQ in arguing / discussing
issues with vols. The hired lackey does what they are told.  I'd suggest it
would all need to be handled verrrry carefully to avoid a walkout by a large
number of those pesky volunteers...



137
Country Fire Service / Region 1 group boundary rationalisation proposal
« on: September 15, 2009, 02:28:01 AM »
An interesting map to be sure, to be sure.
Some of it made no sense at all. Random squiggly lines on a map designed to
provoke "discussion" perhaps?  Other bits might be what should have happened
10 years ago but didn't.

I'd say 6 groups in R1 is unrealistic ambit claim by the bean counters.
Intolerable workload on groupies. Serious North Tce parking lot material if
forced through.

8 or 9 groups is more realistic, allowing for a South Coast Group, and some
randomly altered squiggly lines in the north.

Who remembers the recent Regional Directive that command-cars-present-with-
strike-teams can/may/will-be-commandeered-by-the-IMT-for-management-purposes ?
Now imagine 1/3 of R1's group vehicles eliminated from "the system" by a stroke
of an administrative pen. And also the Groupies who did the work.

Same is planned/proposed for the other 5 regions, or so the story goes.
All in the name of cost cutting.

Meanwhile, the political capital tied up in hideously expensive leased aircraft
continues to grow. As I understand it, we could have an extra 6 or 8 AT802Fs
with the money that goes into leasing a single Aircrane. Enough to give first response air cover to the mid north & riverland, not just SE, MLR & EP.



138
SA Firefighter General / Re: Mega burn-off to reduce bushfire menace
« on: September 15, 2009, 01:52:47 AM »
There I was thinking the mega-burn-off was the one where we put in the
back-burn from Mt Gambier to Birdsville on a strong westerly...

And I'm not at all bitter about the Crows losing.  :-D


139
Country Fire Service / Re: Map of regions
« on: August 30, 2009, 08:22:27 PM »
SA generally goes over to/from daylight saving on the same dates as Vic.
Tas have been trialling extended dates. I think they commenced DS 2 or 3 weeks
ahead of the rest of us last year.

West End Export is/was definitely exported.  No way would we want that dreadful
stuff in our establishments.  As to where it was sent... who cares.  The
important thing is that it never came back!!  A bit like the Carlton ads -
"made from beer".
Can't help wishing they'd left the beer alone!!  :-D

Is the aerial fire-fighting map of primary response zones show the regional
boundaries any better than what you've already got ? http://cfs.sa.gov.au/site/about_us/aerial_firefighting/map_of_primary_response_zones.jsp

cheers

140
Fire Fighter Training / Re: Training Night Ideas
« on: August 21, 2009, 10:55:42 AM »
Interesting...
http://www.ufuvic.asn.au/common_couplings_paper_1.pdf is the latest AFAC position as of May 2008
Document (justifiably IMHO) assassinates Stortz for small diameter hoses, and
totally igores the existence of any couplings other than Stortz, Forestry & BIC.  

Ever.

So it's now Forestry for bushfire 25 & 38mm
Stortz for larger & for suction.

What's odd is that I had a prior AFAC document, 2005-ish vintage which stated
that while Forestry was the preferred small-diameter rural coupling, it wasn't
suited to high-pressure lines (>1200KPA from fuzzy memory).  It stated Barway
was the AFAC preferred standard coupling for these.  Wonder what changed their
minds about HP couplings?

cheers


141
SA Firefighter General / Re: 2009 Vic Bushfire Inquiry
« on: August 16, 2009, 04:43:12 PM »
Maybe the problem is the slogan "Protecting the community" - it gives a feeling of "don't worry the CFS will protect us!
Maybe the slogan should read "Helping the community to prepare & protect itself".


Thankyou Chook !!!
I've always hated that slogan.
We generally don't "protect" our communiy.
We generally turn up with a broom after community members have done something silly!

A key message in community education is that you have to prepare as if you will
be on your own. Some ancient roman(?) wrote something like: "The one hope for
the doomed is not to hope for rescue."

Maybe that should be the new CFS catchy motto...  :-D


142
SA Firefighter General / Re: 2009 Vic Bushfire Inquiry
« on: August 16, 2009, 04:31:11 PM »
And if the IMT has enough trouble getting timely and accurate information about where the fire is and what it's doing, how can they be expected to warn the public?

Not only that, but at a big fire, just how do you describe the position of
something which surges & halts randomly along its flame-front? Assuming you can
even tell where the flame front is amongst 1 or 2 km deep of multiple &
increasing spot fires?  Is it even relevant?

How do you -accurately- describe its location relative to a number of urban
interface streets when, by the time you have read the list of streets, it has
already moved several hundreds of metres?  But only in some places.

Methinks the media is willfully misleading the public as to what is possible.
Never let reality stand in the way of manufacturing a good "scandal".

Chap before the commission on 3rd June (on page 101) made a good point about
official warnings. Dry officialese standard approved messages simply don't
convey reality to listeners.

"Listening to the - it was almost immune, you were almost
immune to the warnings because it is the same - you get
football commentators, when they are talking about a
football match, they are using incredibly colourful and
creative language to describe a guy who jumps up in the
air and grabs a ball. He becomes a hero, he becomes a
world class player at everything. Okay, it's exciting,
but people have become immune to this type of colourful
language and when something is extreme, it doesn't get any
worse than extreme on any other day, whether it is a 27
degree day or whether it is a 30 degree day and we have a
north wind blowing. The factors that go into making an
extreme fire danger day are not described to the people
who really need that warning."


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SA Firefighter General / Re: 2009 Vic Bushfire Inquiry
« on: August 11, 2009, 02:29:39 AM »
Bittenyakka
I agree.
I guess at some point though, someone has to explain fire behaviour & etc to the Great Unwashed.
While it would be nice to hope that HQ will do that, the reality is that we, the fire-
fighters, are the only ones with street cred for people to listen to.

cheers


144
SA Firefighter General / Re: 2009 Vic Bushfire Inquiry
« on: August 09, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »
Anyone else wading through the transcripts & submissions ?

Day 15 (1st June) is worth a read. (yes I'm waaaay behind)
http://www.royalcommission.vic.gov.au/getdoc/75285f31-46a4-4634-9dde-3a04eec44d13/June-09
The ABC producer in the first quarter is skip overable.
The policeman who was home when his house went at the Churchill fire is amazing reading.
Russell Rees has some very interesting comments. Particularly in the areas of
fuel reduction & agency interworking & culture change.

I see in todays Age on-line that he has renewed his contract as CFA CEO.
Having read the day 15 transcript, I think that a quite reasonable decision.
Both by him & the CFA. (Not letting you do my footy tipping Bill  :-D )

cheers

145
Emergency Aircraft / Re: SA watches trial of giant waterbomber
« on: July 05, 2009, 07:51:25 PM »
The most effective airborne firefighting weapon used in Australia is the Erickson Air-Crane Helitanker, such as the one nicknamed Elvis, which is brought from the US each fire season.

How can they make a claim like that?  Perhaps they meant most expensive?


I can think of two possible views on this.

One is: It was a quote in the paper from last year.  So it must be true.

Two is: The most effective equipment is the stuff that offers politicians & other
        clowns the most photo opportunities.  Isn't it ?


146
So....
photograph everything deficient at the stations you know about and
which has been reported to Region and
which repair has been declined or
supply has been declined
due to shortage of funds.

Send it to CFSVA with explanation & history.
CFSVA has only one paid staff member.  She can't be everywhere.
CFSVA delegates are vollies with real lives, same as the rest of us.
They can't go everywhere either. (They don't get paid mileage either.)

Supply CFSVA with ammo.  Don't just moan because they seem to be a bit short.
cheers
AJ


147
Country Fire Service / Re: Sunday Mail
« on: June 24, 2009, 12:20:21 AM »
I find it incredible that the it has taken this long to actually audit what they have!
The front line services should be focused on well front line stuff!
It is normal when an organisation "inherits" assets, the first thing they do is risk assess what they have. Its called Due Diligence, otherwise how do you know if you have just bought a lemon so to speak? Anyway hopefully they will notice the faulty toilet block at Berri (including the moving walls) & that one toilet for females is not suitable for a regional office, incident management facility or regional training facility :-)
Hopefully it will all work out well for the services in SA - good luck!

Ahhhh..... SAFECOM isn't front-line though, is it.
It's a back-of-house shared-services thing.

As for due diligence... state assumption of emergency services & their assets
was a political event. Since when did due diligence & politics walk hand-in-hand?  :evil:

cheers

148
Country Fire Service / Re: Sunday Mail
« on: June 23, 2009, 05:09:10 PM »

SAFECOM are currently auditing fire stations within CFS.  From my discussions with the inspector he believes that stations will be upgraded to make a minimum level, some of his comments were: male & female toilets, change rooms, CABA cleaning facilities, and any other issues which may arise with stations.  

He said the R1 stations would be complete by the end of the month with a report re each station by the end of the month also.  Then the other regions will follow and he said he has to the end of March to finish the rest of the state.

He did not know if work was going to commence immediately or if this was a report to ascertain how good or how bad things are.


As I understood it, this is the first real look SAFECOM has taken at what it
has inherited from councils. Intent is to work out 5 & 10 year budget plans
for maintenance & replacement. With just a little rot in the fascias & a leak
in the roof, ours is one of the better ones he'd seen to date. One urban brigade
has load-bearing brick walls which wobble when pushed.  :-o  Others have cracks
you can put your hand through.  That's just in "well-off" Region 1.
cheers





149
Country Fire Service / Re: Sunday Mail
« on: June 21, 2009, 04:12:54 AM »
Good we may as well keep riding the wave, the SES have jumped in now which adds weight to the argument, I am just waiting for the CFS and the governments reply stating that everything is rosy.....any reason Euan gets Andy Lawson to reply to these things ?


Euan didn't say everything is rosy at the Comm.Ed. sessions last weekend.
In fact, he seemed pretty embarrassed at the amounts going into brigade ops & comm.ed.
Especially comm.ed.

However (he didn't say, because as a ministerial appointee he isn't allowed to) his
hands are tied by the total amount allocated by government & the proportion of that
which is tied to interdepartmental charges & specific ministerial photo opportunity
items. Like large helicopters & so forth.  :evil:

Think about it folks.  The execs of all government departments are hired to execute
government policy.  Nay-saying the minister is career suicide.  The CO doesn't get
paid enough to cover the next 20 years of not being employable.

cheers

150
Country Fire Service / Re: Not Happy?
« on: June 21, 2009, 03:52:16 AM »
Just a question as pay has been raised several times. How much are payed staff on in rough figures? Because I'm on salary, work 60 plus hours a week minimum, no leave loading, no perks & get payed about $66k (including super). So are people under payed or are their expectations a bit high? And before anyone asked I work in OHS for a major company & depending on qualifications & area of responsiblity range between 60 & 85K (thats us OHS types). And we are "performanced managed" out of the business if we don't meet our targets, over spend, don't help increase profit or don't reduce costs! Or if someone higher up has to :wink:
So is it relly that bad being paid staff, & if it is why stay?
cheers

Chook, my good man...

1. You are getting ripped-off. You can get a better hourly rate in a call centre,
fitting tyres or asking "do you want fries with that?".

2. CFS staff tend to stay on because, unlike so many other jobs in our messed-up world,
what they do really 'makes a difference'. Like SES staff, many/most are vollies who are
getting the chance to serve the community more than they could as vollies. When
financial reality bites, they move to other parts of the PS or out altogether.  By the
same token, lots of good people don't apply for CFS jobs because it is too much of a
pay cut for the responsibility carried. 

Maybe you should be aiming to put your knowledge & experience into a paid SES or CFS
role ?...

cheers

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