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Technical Discussion => Hypotheticals => Topic started by: Scania_1 on October 28, 2006, 07:35:48 PM

Title: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on October 28, 2006, 07:35:48 PM
Here`s a question for you. You are the OIC of a CFS appliance heading to a house fire. You are told that there have been mulitple calls and you have an appliance from another station responding also. You have minimal crew and only 2 BA operators, the other appliance responding has only one BA operator. You get there to find that the house is quite high and your ladders wont reach the roof and the house is burning well.
After hearing all this would you request a big red truck (BRT) to back you up?? Rembering that the crew of that appliance will have a big ladder and a crew of BA operators and that the BRT is only 5-10 minutes away and closer than any other CFS resources.
If you say no, you wouldnt request it I would ask you why not?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Pixie on October 28, 2006, 07:48:15 PM
I would Every Time!! They are just sitting there constantly crewed
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: pumprescue on October 28, 2006, 08:20:04 PM
even in the case i think old mate is talking about being retained BRT, I would send the BRT and if they have one a jet if it is well involved...but that would mean some vollies would have to swallow their pride.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: bittenyakka on October 29, 2006, 07:37:21 AM
I would call for the closest appliance avalible and if that happened to be a BRT then it would come along.

I would want it more for the BA operaters than the ladder.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on October 29, 2006, 09:16:28 AM
Members of the public dont really care what color the fire truck is. LOL
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Ryan on October 29, 2006, 09:49:58 AM
has anyone ever heard someone say "oh damn it, I was hoping for a red truck"

 :lol:

Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 29, 2006, 10:09:44 AM
I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out  :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 29, 2006, 10:54:45 AM
If the BRT was closer than any other CFS station was, then hopefully you have EMA agreements in place where dual response was mandatory to such incidents.


Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 5271rescue on October 29, 2006, 11:38:06 AM
Well by the time the BRT from mount gambier got here it would be all over red rover,,,,,now why not use a local lift truck from ETSA or better still if you have a tree loping firm in your town use them,,,I have used these in the past and works well and responce time was faster than if we needed the BRT......
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: SA Firey on October 29, 2006, 12:38:29 PM
I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out  :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS

Negative...bombers would only respond to rural job as they could not guarantee if any persons are inside.Ever been hit by 3 tonnes of water :-D

Firstly on a visual I would upgrade to 2nd Alarm and dont care whether they were CFS/MFS as a resource we are all here to do the same guys. I wouldnt commit any BA crews until backup arrived and would concentrate on RECEO.

Remember the golden rule protect life....Yours first :wink:
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on October 29, 2006, 01:33:14 PM
Who said anything about Mt Gambier? You shouldnt be commiting BA operators to a job without an emeregency BA crew on scene or at least coming. That was my point.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 29, 2006, 02:01:04 PM
I heard a bomber respond to a car fire up in the hills :? Wouldn't care who it is BRT or BWT whoever is closest gets the nod.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 5271rescue on October 29, 2006, 03:30:13 PM
Long drive for CABA members here in the SOUTH EAST....
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: backburn on October 29, 2006, 04:56:23 PM
The BRT has turned up and the ladder is smaller than ours and they only had 2 CABA members and 1 rookie still in training first fire. This has happened.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on October 29, 2006, 04:59:21 PM
Well 2 BA operators is a crew when I went to school so at least you have an emergency crew and/or changeover crew.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Pipster on October 29, 2006, 06:24:30 PM
I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out  :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS

Negative...bombers would only respond to rural job as they could not guarantee if any persons are inside.Ever been hit by 3 tonnes of water :-D

Remember the golden rule protect life....Yours first :wink:

A few years ago, there was a house fire in the adjoinging brigades area...it was initially put through as a  smoke sighting, bombers responded (as they were on auto repsonse during the FDS) and they did drop a load of water on the burning house.....   :-)

Pip
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: SA Firey on October 29, 2006, 09:51:59 PM
I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out  :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS

Negative...bombers would only respond to rural job as they could not guarantee if any persons are inside.Ever been hit by 3 tonnes of water :-D

Remember the golden rule protect life....Yours first :wink:

A few years ago, there was a house fire in the adjoinging brigades area...it was initially put through as a  smoke sighting, bombers responded (as they were on auto response during the FDS) and they did drop a load of water on the burning house.....   :-)

Pip

First time for everything obviously :-D
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on October 30, 2006, 07:06:56 AM
no...

firstly i would respond further surrounding CFS brigades as they are closer, for more BA operators, since 3 aint gonan cut it. hopefully these brigades would actually crew...

not much point responding MFS for ladders around here anyway, unless your talking about an actual ladder type truck? or a skyjet?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 2090 on October 30, 2006, 12:25:50 PM
no...

firstly i would respond further surrounding CFS brigades as they are closer, for more BA operators, since 3 aint gonan cut it. hopefully these brigades would actually crew...

not much point responding MFS for ladders around here anyway, unless your talking about an actual ladder type truck? or a skyjet?

Are you sure? The OP states that the MFS station is closer than any other CFS resource.

And by the way, what is with the MFS generally having ladders longer than the CFS?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on October 30, 2006, 02:38:47 PM
mmm didnt read the thing very well... what i meant is respond the closest fire resources, not necessarily CFS....

was relating it to my own area....
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on October 30, 2006, 04:50:25 PM
Yeah the CFS stations are further away than the BRT station. BTW this was a real job and guess what the MFS didnt get invited but CFS further away were called.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: F.B.R.T on October 30, 2006, 08:06:06 PM
It's called one sided Enhanced Mutual Aid which is common down our way Ath! :-(
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: CFS_Firey on October 30, 2006, 10:58:16 PM
Out of curiosity, what length ladders do SAMFS carry on their GP Pumpers?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 2090 on October 31, 2006, 02:04:32 AM
Around 9m I believe. Other states are longer still on their GP's
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 31, 2006, 08:50:16 AM
Yeah the CFS stations are further away than the BRT station. BTW this was a real job and guess what the MFS didnt get invited but CFS further away were called.
Let me guess, Fish Factory job???
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on October 31, 2006, 09:34:46 AM
im guessing he would be talking about the domestic at moorak

all i can suggest is that CommCens respond first alamr appliances, and then the upgrades are at the discretion of local brigades... local rbigades should know there area and who is closest, and respond them whether that be a red or white truck..
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on October 31, 2006, 01:10:23 PM
ANyway I should just shut up and let someone come up with a real hypothetical.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: bittenyakka on October 31, 2006, 03:10:57 PM
im guessing he would be talking about the domestic at moorak

all i can suggest is that CommCens respond first alamr appliances, and then the upgrades are at the discretion of local brigades... local rbigades should know there area and who is closest, and respond them whether that be a red or white truck..

But sometimes brigades don't call the closest.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on October 31, 2006, 03:47:31 PM
my point exactly
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 5271rescue on October 31, 2006, 06:40:39 PM
MFS paged us to a private alarm other day that was only 10kms from a brigade that was a lot closer than us........
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Ryan on October 31, 2006, 07:34:03 PM
probably because you have a pumper so if it was a fire a pumper is better to deal with it.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: RescueHazmat on November 01, 2006, 12:23:56 PM
Ryan, having a pumper would have nothing to do with it. - It would all be down to the response plans, and wheather or not the appropriate, or should I say, correct, response was made at Comcen level. (Thats *if* the response plans were correct?)
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on November 01, 2006, 07:39:27 PM
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probably because you have a pumper so if it was a fire a pumper is better to deal with it.

probly because MFS have the wrong response data and should not be paging brigades in that area anyway, rather ringing there alerts number.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Ryan on November 01, 2006, 09:09:39 PM
Did the closer brigade have a pumper?

IF it turned out to be a fire IM sure the "closer" brigade would have got a call too, I know if I was in charge Id send a pumper brigade if they were able to go.  Really not that much differende.  People make too much of a fuss over stuff. 
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on November 01, 2006, 09:23:27 PM
hahaha u obviously missed the point entirely ryan, according to the limited info in blinky's post i am guessing that he means MFS comms dispatched them alone...

therefore the closest brigade, whos area it was, wasnt even given a bell until naracoorte presumably made them aware.

Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 2090 on November 01, 2006, 11:07:15 PM
Did the closer brigade have a pumper?

IF it turned out to be a fire IM sure the "closer" brigade would have got a call too, I know if I was in charge Id send a pumper brigade if they were able to go.  Really not that much differende.  People make too much of a fuss over stuff. 

Do you understand what a pumper is? Do you understand what makes a pumper different from a 24/24P/34/34P? Do you understand when you would notice a diference?

Also, seeing as though the CFS A) Has only a few Pumpers, and B) According to some, only has two *real* pumpers, do you realise how difficult its going to be for you to get your precious pumper brigade?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Ryan on November 02, 2006, 05:55:42 AM
A pumper by CFS standards has a massive inlet and a few more outlets and a slightly bigger pump.  That is for 34P/24P.  Probably a bit fo difference between them and a type 2 pumper I would assume.  Naracoorte have a medium pumper so may as well use it.  If there was no pumper then the precious 34 brigade will take it, simple.  Use the resources you have.     
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on November 02, 2006, 11:43:58 AM
It's called one sided Enhanced Mutual Aid which is common down our way Ath! :-(

I know exactly what you mean...about time some higher members down this way had their donkey's kicked!
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: RescueHazmat on November 02, 2006, 11:50:45 AM
No that is not a pumper by CFS standards ryan. I don't think any specifications list their pumps as having " massive inlets " and " a few outlets "..


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Did the closer brigade have a pumper?

IF it turned out to be a fire IM sure the "closer" brigade would have got a call too, I know if I was in charge Id send a pumper brigade if they were able to go.  Really not that much differende.  People make too much of a fuss over stuff.  

Simply, and to put it the niceset yet clearest way possible, that is incorrect. - Weather confirmed or not, the response to the incident is controlled by response plans. Depending on the area, you will have the closest appliances responded, plssibly including response by brigades with B/A if the closest did not have the resource , or if it was a specialised incident HAZMAT etc.

You would not send a brigade who is 40 km away, just because they had a pumper, and not send the nearer brigades just because it wasn't reported as a going job... It just doesn't work like that..
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Ryan on November 02, 2006, 01:56:19 PM
be reasonable, if there is a pumper 10km Id send it or maybe that building is in Naracoortes response I dont know you dont know Bill might know?

We dont know the details behind this its all speculation and  personal assessments.

"No that is not a pumper by CFS standards ryan. I don't think any specifications list their pumps as having " massive inlets " and " a few outlets ".."

I also said a bit bigger pump maybe :-)
Actually the new 34P's are just basically a 34 with a big inlet valve and a few extra outlets.  I heard the pump is exactly the same.   
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Pipster on November 02, 2006, 03:10:35 PM
I think the whole issue with this original post, was that the nearest brigade was not responded at all, while a brigade further away was.....

Obviously there was an issue with that - be it a goof up by whoever dispatched the call, or the information was incorrect in the database used, or something else.

But surely, getting an appliance and crew - that is almost any appliance (in that area it is a minimum of a 24) - to the call is of utmost importance...if the alarm had turned out to be set off by smoke / fire, at least a crew could do something - even if it is a matter of locate the fire, isolate the power, and undertake some defensive attack...until the Pumper, or whatever the next closest appliance is, actually arrives....

And by the way, pumpers are classified by their pump capacity - from memory, in CFS there is only one "Heavy Pumper" being Mt Barker Pumper (the Dennis)...the 24P & 34P's are classified as medium pumpers, as are the so called "type 2" pumpers...although their pumping capacity varies....I can't remember what the actual capacities actually are tho'.....I'll ask those who do know, and get an answer back....

Pip
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Pipster on November 02, 2006, 04:01:43 PM
Defination of Pumpers - in round figures......

Heavy Pumper - 4,000l/min - This equals a SAMFS General Purpose Pumper.   ( Apparently MFB have some Heavy pumpers running around 8,000l/min !   :-o  )
 
Medium - 3,000l/min - these include the so called "type 2" pumpers purchased from NSW
 
Light - 2,000l/min. This is used on all heavy appliances - 34, 24P & 34P.

Pip
 
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 2090 on November 02, 2006, 04:41:36 PM
Thanks Pip. Ryan, as you'll see from the SACFS Pumping standards that Pip posted, there is a *slight* difference between pumps that the CFS uses. Mind you these standards vary across Australia, with places Like Melbourne and Sydney having some 'Super Heavy' pumpers pushing ridiculous amounts of water around.

Mind you, you wont notice a huge difference between the pump literage until you are boosting premises, using monitors or running multiple lines off a single pump.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on November 02, 2006, 10:07:04 PM
I think the whole issue with this original post, was that the nearest brigade was not responded at all, while a brigade further away was.....

Obviously there was an issue with that - be it a goof up by whoever dispatched the call, or the information was incorrect in the database used, or something else.

Pip

The original post stems back to a house fire where a certain hirachy of a certain group requested appliances which had to drive past other stations (a more approapriate station at that).
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: SA Firey on November 28, 2006, 08:58:07 AM
Based on the information upgrade the alarm and ask for who you want :wink:
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on November 28, 2006, 01:49:11 PM
My point was that the color of the appliance shouldnt matter if it is a resource that can be utilised.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on November 28, 2006, 02:15:03 PM
As SeniorFirey70 said somewhere "EMA is only one way down here"

Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: rusty on November 28, 2006, 07:58:35 PM
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probably because you have a pumper so if it was a fire a pumper is better to deal with it.

probly because MFS have the wrong response data and should not be paging brigades in that area anyway, rather ringing there alerts number.

So just why do the MFS page the S/E Brigades?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on November 29, 2006, 01:22:08 PM
Generally its just the Gambier group and i believe it maybe because we are EMA brigades (well most of us)

Although it might be just up to the person who is on shift at the mfs comm centre as sometimes they will page us or they will ring up socc and get them to page us.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: SA Firey on November 29, 2006, 01:25:58 PM
Generally its just the Gambier group and i believe it maybe because we are EMA brigades (well most of us)

Although it might be just up to the person who is on shift at the mfs comm centre as sometimes they will page us or they will ring up socc and get them to page us.

MFS page you if your an EMA brigade :?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on December 01, 2006, 08:31:32 AM
around the mt gambier district the local brigades that dual respond with MFS will be paged by MFS comms at the same time a MFS....

no other responses for LSE are meant to be paged to CFS brigades by MFS in that area
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 5271rescue on December 03, 2006, 05:29:42 PM
MFS will page who they feel like and not contact SOCC as they are ment too,happens all the time....
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: CFS_Firey on December 03, 2006, 07:26:34 PM
Why would you want them to contact SOCC and waste more time?  Wouldn't it be better if the call taker pages you, and if SAMFS are responding the wrong brigades, you get their database updated to be correct?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on December 03, 2006, 07:46:37 PM
mmm would be all good if they had the correct data and response plans...


or even a general idea of the area  :lol:
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 5271rescue on December 04, 2006, 06:39:07 PM
would be nice but as has been done they page the wrong brigade as there information is out of date...
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 04, 2006, 07:26:48 PM
Recently we have had a lot of pages that have gone to the group officers but not the brigade.  Even though the pager message contains the brigade number. e.g. 5418.

All from MFS of course.

Dont know why this is though.  Comm centre error or GRN error?  Anyone else had this happen?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 11, 2006, 07:59:25 PM
Hey Ath, who said EMA didnt work both ways pml lol  :lol:

MFS: RESPOND RCR 11/12/06 21:22,JUBILEE HWY EAST,MT GAMBIER DISTR, MAP 126 F 2 ,,FROM SAPOL, SINGLE CAR COLLISION, OPP LADY NELSON INFO CENTRE, UNKNOWN ENTRAPMENTS,DAILY INC. NO. 73,74629 701 5528*CFSRES:
                                                 -= CFS Yahl response =-

MFS: RESPOND RCR 11/12/06 21:22,JUBILEE HWY EAST,MT GAMBIER DISTR, MAP 126 F 2 ,,FROM SAPOL, SINGLE CAR COLLISION, OPP LADY NELSON INFO CENTRE, UNKNOWN ENTRAPMENTS,DAILY INC. NO. 73,74629 701 5528*CFSRES:
                                                 -= MFS MT GAMBIER RESPONSE =-

Me thinks someone stuffed up!
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on December 11, 2006, 09:23:51 PM
mmm might be becasue they put it in as Mt Gambier district,,, not just Mt Gambier....


probly an easy mistake for anyone who doesnt know the area... lol.

ahh well, ncie lights and sirens run for the boys
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 12, 2006, 03:52:25 AM
nah stop called in a matter of minutes.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on December 12, 2006, 02:34:31 PM
I will eat my words if I ever see this:

MFS: RESPOND ASSIST CFS 12/12/06 1900,at structure fire blah blah Road YAHL , MAP 0 0 0 at request of CFS GO. DAILY INC. NO. 69,701*CFSRES:
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 12, 2006, 03:25:41 PM
nah probaly never happen.  you might see this one day.  If i get a say one day

MFS: RESPOND ASSIST CFS 12/12/06 1900,at structure fire blah blah Road Compton , MAP 0 0 0 at request of Compton CFS. DAILY INC. NO. 69,701*CFSRES:
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: 5271rescue on December 12, 2006, 06:59:38 PM
tell bob to stop calling you guys and you will not get pissed off
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 12, 2006, 07:33:46 PM
tell bob to stop calling you guys and you will not get filtered off

say what?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on December 12, 2006, 08:32:00 PM
I will eat my words if I ever see this:

MFS: RESPOND ASSIST CFS 12/12/06 1900,at structure fire blah blah Road YAHL , MAP 0 0 0 at request of CFS GO. DAILY INC. NO. 69,701*CFSRES:

ya might not get the mount turning out to CFS area... but i know for a fact that an MFS skyjet (or was it the bronto... hmmm) attended the Blackwood Coldstore fire at CFS request, well after initial calls... there have also been various other times in history when MFS have supplied 'specialist' appliances to CFS.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on December 12, 2006, 10:46:07 PM
Have heard from a few different peeps around the traps lately that MFS be fulltime or retained can now travel up to 40km out of district for calls without getting special permission or something to that effect??? would have thought if you called them they would show anyhow but meh???????
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: aust_fire1 on December 13, 2006, 04:28:09 AM
We did a combined MFS/CFS training with Victor MFS. Yes, we asked the question and they said then that their responce area had been extended up to 40 km's
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 13, 2006, 02:21:41 PM
Is that thre primary response zone is 40kms? or thats how far they go to assist CFS without permission from upstairs?

Cos if its there primary response zone then why is there a cfs?
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on December 13, 2006, 02:47:15 PM
That would be to back up their fellow FF without going to the big guns up in the sky :-D
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on December 13, 2006, 03:03:39 PM
Can respond 30-40km around that mark beyond the boundary. Discretion is used though. For example if that MFS station is going to then have trouble covering their own area by doing that it may not happen. For example it would be silly to send Mt Gambier to a grass fire near Millicent and then respond a CFS appliance for COQ.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 13, 2006, 04:54:43 PM
Not to mention at least 5 more appropriate appliances closer to that area.

So does that mean a CFS brigade can respond into an MFS brigades area and extinguish a fire without telling them?

Seems like an odd policy to have.


Just to point out i have nothing against the MFS just trying to make sense of what seems to be a very odd policy!
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on December 13, 2006, 08:13:28 PM
No the CFS cant respond to a fire in MFS area and extinguish it and not tell anyone that would be like stealing your big brothers girlfriend lol. Thats just the rules. I dont make em I`m just the messenger.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: CFS_Firey on December 13, 2006, 09:47:37 PM
Isn't that more like saying the CFS can extinguish a fire in MFS area without getting permission from Euan first?  I see it as a good thing, not a threat...
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on December 13, 2006, 10:06:42 PM
We were bringing our 24P back from NE Isuzu one day and happened upon a VA outside Mitsubishi's at Tonsley the copper asked if we could help we made sure HQ was informed and that mets were responded, needless to say when they rocked up we got a bit of a look so we buggered off and left it in their hands. :-D
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Scania_1 on December 14, 2006, 06:05:01 PM
That happens and Mets dont mind of course, as long as you let them know. Have heard Burnside and Salisbury do it quite a few times.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: Camo on December 15, 2006, 03:11:17 PM
Isn't that more like saying the CFS can extinguish a fire in MFS area without getting permission from Euan first?  I see it as a good thing, not a threat...

I dont see it as threat i just find it odd! 

Whatever benefits the community is all that matters.
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: SA Firey on December 15, 2006, 03:13:30 PM
We did a combined MFS/CFS training with Victor MFS. Yes, we asked the question and they said then that their responce area had been extended up to 40 km's

Even further according to this page  :lol:

16:17:07 12-11-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 12/11/06 16:16,TICKERA RD,WALLAROO DIST, MAP 000 0 0 ,,MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT, 1 KM FROM WALLAROO ON LEFT,28819 529*CFSRES:
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: medevac on December 17, 2006, 08:56:16 AM
well it is MFS area... but sending 529 to wallaroo?????!?!?!?!?!?

perhaps they are going to use the new ferry between cowell and wallaroo, try to shorten the response time.... :wink:
Title: Re: Responding Appliances
Post by: SA Firey on December 17, 2006, 12:07:40 PM
Me thinks that was a paging error bigtime eh :lol: