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Country Fire Service / BA Re-Accreditation - Vale
« on: June 04, 2010, 04:17:13 AM »
Anyone else get a nice letter from STC about BA reaccreditation? Seems that in response to no money for training, we are now moving away from a 5 yearly reminder of how to wear a set correctly and the correct way to search, do start up drills, and all those other non important things we use to do on BA course.

Instead....a quick checklist run at your Brigade and a Brigade drill and alls good with the world - got to love the world of economical fire-fighting. :|

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SAAS / Re: SAAS Making it harder to Volunteer !!!!
« on: June 04, 2010, 04:11:26 AM »
I do believe the number of Volunteer resignations may be approaching 100 this year so far....double last year. Well done SAAS

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Emergency Vehicles / Re: New Rescue van for CFS
« on: June 04, 2010, 04:07:41 AM »

Sorry champ, I'll go easy.  :mrgreen:


going soft Numbers....soft I tells ya  :-P

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SAAS / Re: SAAS Making it harder to Volunteer !!!!
« on: June 03, 2010, 01:04:18 PM »
correct Straps...the requirement to complete a 12 hour shift every week has nothing to do with clinical competence, it's about being on the roster and filling the hole that SAAS can't do with paid staff. Many volunteers in quieter stations wont see more than 10 patients in that time.

Clinical competence is (supposedly) maintained with the seperate requirement to attend at least 50% of training nights, and a (poorly designed) CPE training package program.

and while we're at it .....disorderley, a very large number of Paramedics and ICPs havent been to Uni for 3 years, instead getting their positions with an internal SAAS program.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: June 01, 2010, 07:32:25 AM »
frequent alarm fault?....time to send them a bill  :evil:

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Country Fire Service / Re: NOT THE TRUCK - watch this space
« on: May 27, 2010, 07:16:51 PM »
wow....so a new truck so u could just have some fancy windscreen washers and a bunch of Halloween masks......plenty of brigades doing 10 times your calls would love that.

As Numbers says.....makes your brain hurt wondering why

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Emergency Vehicles / Re: New Rescue van for CFS
« on: May 26, 2010, 12:06:10 PM »
Rescue Appliances should pretty much be a  QAV/Rescue appliance in all cases...  If the road crash is in rescue brigades own area,  in the day time...and its on fire...    Needs a 500-1000L Tank, Smallest yet good enough pump possible + Hosereel and thats it.

If that aint possible...the rescue truck shouldnt mobilise, just the fire appliance, with a rescue default occuring.

Back to BFF1 Respond to a Road Accident with you Zippy....... it's called fire protection at a scene....not neccessarily fire suppression. Needs to happen with or without the presence of "a fire".

To be serious about the job of RCR requires a fair suite of tools (not just those in charge) to be available. Given that a large amount of the CFS risk is open road, or 80kph or above signposted roads, then high speed impact and considerable passenger cell deformation is more likely to occur than in suburbia which has higher numbers of lower speed impacts. A QAV type appliance cannot cut it for this requirement. The CFS standard stowage for RCR is barely adequate for low speed impact collisions, let alone high speed, multi vehicle, or those involving road transport.

We know the current 34/34P builds dont cope well with multi roles (Hazmat+Rural, RCR + rural, or heaven forbid, RCR+Hazmat+Rural), and so  there needs to be some method of ensuring a higher response of equipment that might be needed. The concept of the Sprinters as a Support Vehicle is an easy solution to the fact that the CFS doesnt seem to be able to design a fire appliance that can adequately do 2 roles, and go offroad for a grass/wildfire. Sadly when u look at the costs a Sprinter doesnt stack up;
  • cost of the bare Emergency Services type Sprinter (with 3 or 4 seats)is approx $60k....even second hand flogged and tired ex Ambulance Service ones are around $35k
  • fitout for even a basic storage suite that isnt an ergonomic disaster and meets OHS and crashworthy requirements would be around $30K
  • it requires  another bay in the station to secure expensive and highly attractive equipment (remember sets are regularly stolen here and interstate), for some not a problem, for some it is
  • another driver is required; a consideration, not a precluder.

so for a cost of somewhere between $70k-$100k you will have an appliance, that still requires a fire vehicle respond with it.

Add $70k to the build cost of a 34P and you might get a proper build  on an appliance that is more usuable. For the dozen or so rescue and hazmat brigades that do a number of jobs a year, this has to be a better answer (and thus the Services Pumper is born!). For low number Brigades that still have a real RCR or Hazmat Risk, maybe a simple single cab 16ft tray with a (simple, durable) pod is a better idea for a support vehicle (ie change from $50k).

Like everything, no one model suits all


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SASES / Re: SES P1 responses when the SCC opens
« on: May 24, 2010, 07:02:51 PM »
Yeh its signed, sealed......but not delivered yet.
"The stern talk isa cummin"

The change in 'call receipt & dispatch' has now been delivered & announced to SES volunteers....changeover to different procedures estimated to be September.

obviously hasnt filtered to the ranks round here...lol

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Country Fire Service / Re: NOT THE TRUCK - watch this space
« on: May 19, 2010, 08:34:48 PM »
so they average a slice over 13 calls a year....and they have a truck thats a couple of years old replaced with a brand spanker..... do you have a picture of someone in charge with a goat?

What an extraordinarily poor allocation of assets

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All Equipment discussion / Re: 34p pump sizes
« on: May 14, 2010, 04:07:28 PM »
seeing as we are a universe away from the initial post, someone may like to start a new Thread about What we need in a 34P or something

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Country Fire Service / Re: SAGRN - Motorola
« on: May 06, 2010, 11:24:54 AM »
ahh yes, I too can talk to ceduna, or mt gambier or other exotic parts of our fair state....but every now and then at a fire with more than 4 appliances attending, it would be nice to be able to talk to the truck I can see through the smoke.

Sorry GRN is seriously flawed for major incidents (which was the supposed reason for having a multi-agency common radio network). For the minor ones like I'm sure represent most of your calls, and our calls, then VHF like we had was fine anyway - with a bit of training! Lots of money bleeding out of a system that is underfunded to pay for a service foist upon us....with little real return in capability.

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Country Fire Service / Re: SAGRN - Motorola
« on: May 05, 2010, 04:21:52 PM »
so pay a shiteload to implement a crap system.....and then lets employ the original designers of the shite system even more money to maintain it?

OK...got it now i think

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OFF Topic / Re: Bunnings
« on: April 23, 2010, 11:12:03 AM »
Yeh its true!......... now imagine Bunnings, if they had a bar there! .........and some strippers.....and.......naaaa leave it :-D
so asking for advice on rubbing back could take a while then? :|

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SAAS / Re: Interesting problems with private providers.
« on: April 18, 2010, 06:44:13 PM »
so they're finding that common sense has pricked the double time nerve?

Poor lil boys and girls...fancy having to work for your salary when u could have been bubmbling around with a lap full of donuts on a cushy number

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SAAS / Re: SAAS CEO and HEalth restrict SAAS Ambo's out of hours work!
« on: March 23, 2010, 08:31:03 AM »
No Probs No Care.....you'll have to excuse me, my paranoia is showing

By all means please continue to bring another perspective to the discussion

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SAAS / Re: SAAS CEO and HEalth restrict SAAS Ambo's out of hours work!
« on: March 22, 2010, 11:04:22 PM »
interesting seeing the new guys come rolling through, joining up and posting on this topic alone...lol

If I thought that the moon landing was done on universal studios back lot, and that the mafia's second man on the grassy knoll killed JFK, i could almost think there was some connection with previous authors

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care to put up your company details and a price too?  :evil:

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SAAS / Re: SAAS CEO and HEalth restrict SAAS Ambo's out of hours work!
« on: March 14, 2010, 09:46:01 AM »

Now today a cardiac arrest occurred at a SA Race Meet track. Today the patient was lucky enough to have 2 SAAS on track Crews including x1 ICP and x3 Paramedics at their side in minutes.

and in the future, there will be more ICP and paramedics available to man emerg resources, so its reasonable to assume that within 6-10 mins they will still be there to assist

In the future it appears they will get a Paramedic, and a couple of First Aiders. I feel for the poor paramedic having to be the sole advanced practitioner at that type of case.
or they could get a SAAS Cert IV straight out of training, who is clinically mentoring a Cert II student with Advanced First Aid with no training in how to do this appropriately as an Emerg resource. This is happening today...now...and occasionally in the Metro area.....I know who I'd prefer.


We heard today the private company taking over is charging  about $800.00 less than SAAS does per ambulance per events. Corners must be being cut to do this.

well I guess for starters they don't have to pay the $1000 per day for each Paramedic wage on O/T.....see punters now u understand why the career guys miss their event coverage....a cosy EB deal that said any such event was paid as overtime  :lol:

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SAAS / Re: SAAS CEO and HEalth restrict SAAS Ambo's out of hours work!
« on: March 14, 2010, 09:35:28 AM »
Crash we agree on something... it had to happen one day lol  :-)

well....I've woken up this morning and the world hasnt ended.....

I take my unionist career hat off to country volunteers. I'm sure your communities support you, but perhaps SAAS by the sounds of it needs to support you more.
actually in truth few of them really do. Many people arent aware their local country ambos arent paid....they just assume we are. Reminding SAAS of the fact would be a good start however

I will raise the issue of volunteers becoming members of the AEA. There is no reason you should not have some protection.
Perhaps you guys need to become retained like Country MFS stations, this way you would have more protection and entitled to some decent $$$ when working?

been there done that last year. Seems the Union thinks the interests of its members would be better served (ie they get more members who get more money) if there werent any volunteers......thinking I cant really fault, but it would be nice to think they could be a little alturistic however


I hear what you say crash about people doing events and other stuff not just for the cash. I understand why students and people like volunteers would be seeking more experience. But private company Directors should not be able to pimp junior and willing staff, take advantage and make $$$ for themselves.

i think you need to concede that many of your paid colleagues do this too 360 ICPs, Paras, ATS and even a CTL or two, it's their choice to look for additional skills or experience, and maybe not be so quick to hammer people running the companies. If they dont pay appropriately, or arent competitive, then they wont get staff, Vol, Student Career or Hobo off the street. Simple as that



Is there a reason for example that we couldn't intergrate SAAS volunteers into the Clipsal 500 track medical extrication teams working with paramedics? Is there a reason Volunteers should'nt have a career path into ATS? Until this private explosion ATS officers were working along side paramedics and ICP at the races getting experience and $$.

I'm afraid it has everything to do with Career staff attitude and the Union (not bashing either of them here for the sake of it)......but theres a heap of other examples I could raise about the reluctance to integrate Volunteers

 

PS something interesting happened at a horse race meet today that could turn this whole privatisation issue on its head? stay tuned.
bet it doesnt change a thing..lol

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SAAS / Re: SAAS CEO and HEalth restrict SAAS Ambo's out of hours work!
« on: March 13, 2010, 12:48:27 PM »
360 nothing much surprises me these days with SAAS or the Union.... I have to say they are rather a disappointment after getting so-called professional rates in....maybe their laurels are getting just a little wide and expansive after all their sitting in their plush new SAAS supplied chairs (speaking of conflicts of interest as we were)

For me, the devil is in the detail....what constitutes a conflict of interest? Is it working for a company that provides a clinical experience different than the usual hash and trash that SAAS provides? Is it one that offers event coverage that SAAS used to provide, but has chosen to remove itself from? (and the CEO most vociferously wanting to get away from it) I'm not so sure. Setting up a company in direct opposition to SAAS ie the IMS and Paramedical Services companies providing ATS type services, might be a different matter, but hey, as I said the first test case will be interesting. People do things for many reason, chasing $$ is sometimes sacrificed for gaining skills and experience - thats why people work for less than what you think is fair.....hell, some of us even do it for nothing...or pay for the privledge.

As for fatigue and or injury.....maybe we should ban overtime too while we are at it.....or at least those that call in sick for their shift and pick up O/T in another area..lol. Then we can start on contact sport, and late nights and before long you'll be able to ring EOC to come and tuck u in at night. A bit nanny-ish really. Manage the problem children appropriately, but dont come up with ridiculous sticks and beat up everyone....

As for the volunteer thing, I agree completely with you (I know....amazing huh?) A union?....cant see that ever occuring, sadly it will only change with the passage of time, and the bulk of the experienced Volunteer teams. In my area a fringey sort of station that backs up a sleepy little paid station, there are 8 of us with more than 4 years experience.....4 of these are unlikely to perservere and stick it out...SAAS seems much happier to put a Cert II with Advanced First Aid in the seat and pat themselves on the back as mastering recruitment.....service to the public is falling at an alarming rate in the sticks.....and even this doesnt raise a murmour from the Union (who cant even raise a "put paid staff in there" argument)

As I said.....petty and nit picky is flavour de jour in Eastwood....i wonder if anyone has told them theres a use by date for it

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SAAS / Re: SAAS CEO and HEalth restrict SAAS Ambo's out of hours work!
« on: March 12, 2010, 10:25:40 PM »
well...if your Union is as weak as the proverbial and allow SAAS and the Govt to single out SAAS employees like this, without making a fuss, then u deserve what you get. Just because you might work for another organisation does not mean a conflict of interest arises. The first test case will be worth watching. Having said that, there are a few that are probably on a bit of shaky ground... what a shame it was this CEO that encouraged them to do what they are doing. Will we see a mass sick leave day just to prove a point? Time is right, the public would love to be able to belt up the Minister over this just before an election

Imagine if they try this with the MFU...lmao. Yes, I know they have to notify and seek permission now....but seriously no-one has ever been knocked back.

While we're at it.....wait for the exodus of volunteers from SAAS as well when they start the enforcement of having to undertake a 12hr shift each week plus training at least every second week ..... yes thats right.....you MUST be on the roster for 12 hours each week to stay as a volunteer, otherwise, SAAS will say farewell to you regardless

"SAAS values the diversity in our workforce....but only if your a stay at home with no life"

SAAS has become very petty minded of late, I hope that its not a lasting condition....it could prove somewhat terminal

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Country Fire Service / Re: NOT THE TRUCK - watch this space
« on: March 11, 2010, 08:08:18 AM »
you've misread the figures he gave, he said 68 calls over last 5 years, so average of 13.6 calls/year for the brigade.


my mistake, 13 calls a year makes all the difference

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Country Fire Service / Re: NOT THE TRUCK - watch this space
« on: March 11, 2010, 05:13:26 AM »
for 5 calls a year I'd be asking why you have a Brigade, station and appliance at all, let alone a second appliance

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: March 09, 2010, 11:20:26 AM »
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 09/03/10 11:51,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 C 16 TG182,IN PARKLANDS OPP ST ANDREWS HOSPITAL - ,NO REFLECTIVE TYPE PERSONS HAVE LIT,A CAMP FIRE - FROM POLICE,SAIR55 ADL201
MFS Adelaide

not very PC in this day and age, nor very smart seeing as it can be and is read by everyone concerned in Wakefield St.

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keep talking 360...its all evidence..lol

funny how all of a sudden we arent bagging the people concerned and approve of (only) this service - despite there being plenty of comment previously about the previous iteration of this company and despite other companies clearly paying at or above the award rates

coincedence...nah, unlikely

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