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RDO? Big Night Out?

ok,....as you wish

Vote 1....Alan for Bad Cop 

january will pass....and nought will happen....

so with only a few days to go, I'm betting the above will be the status quo

Pitching to the public for computer systems Wendy (and the rest of the CFSVA) isnt going to win public hearts and minds....they dont care. Tell them we'll have to walk to a fire....that might help.

Alan's rebuttal is first class...... if you want to win the media war, then u need to be able to refute the Government spin quickly and accurately. Sadly it appears our paid for CFSVA staff struggle to find the means to do this

My vote....Alan for CFSVA Pres

I gather Crash you work in the public sector - say what you like & can't be sac ked The point I was trying to make is if you want a truly professional service then if rules are broken the there should be repercussions, & a mature attitude to all of the emergency services by all instead of this constant sniping - as some of those who I used to manage found out! And the only reason in the old days some councils went down that path was a)cost & b)special interests - just like an ex - emergency service minister a few years ago
It was misguided & now other towns have to cover when it all turns to crap! And if you think I'm talking filtered then you haven't been around too long Theres a lot more to storm & flood than you might think! And then there is disaster management as well, so while some of you will bitchnwhinge until the cows come home - guess what? it won't change SES will be around for a while yet cheers

nope, just interested to see that someone who bangs on constantly about the need to manage volunteers better and how great it is done in other services or over the border would fall back on threatening someone with a bit of paper that frankly isnt worth jack.....if u have to charge someone then the Manager has lost the war, let alone the battle.

That paramilitary approach went out years ago....St John is a good example of how it inappropriate these days....but then much of the SES reminds me of St John.....

country hour....well, theres mass media at its brilliant best

This "protest/display" who mooted it? from my brief readings its not the CFSVA, but some disgruntled(most of us are)members! and NO formal talks have taken place other than these discussions on here! Am I wrong?

well this would indicate its a little more than that;

Not yet confirmed.
Depends on the Minister's office.
I understand the meeting has been put back to Wednesday.
I hear that any action will hinge on outcomes of that meeting, and another one with
CFSVA on Thursday.

The funding issue affects all Brigades/Groups/Regions but as usual only the few are prepared to have the balls and stand up and be counted on the issue.

A "United" stand is fine but it needs everybody to have the desired effect...what are they going to do?......SACK US

A street rally to Parliament House and a set of keys from each brigade appliance to the minister would have a better effect.

We are being "used" ladies and gentleman

Stand up!!!

sorry, but stuff like this is pointless diatride. We all know that we wont quit or withdraw services....cos thats not what we do, that IS the difference between US and THEM.....its not just a job for us....it's OUR community.....this sounds very much like the whinging we hear from many in the services....and without anything productive to add. It doesnt further the argument at all - IMHO


At the end of the day, Rainer and the other faceless ones behind this action(at least he has the guts to put his name to it) read this forum every day I'm sure. As has been said, the CFSVA read it all the time we know that, why are they so quiet? why so invisible, are you or are you not supporting this as a legitimate way of sending a message to the Government?......if you want support, then come up with the proper information so that everyone can make a decision to support this or not. Otherwise, I would suggest that the thread is better off closed.

january will pass....and nought will happen....a few rumblings from one particular Group with a dubious reputation at best isnt going to get the collective off their couch and any display will be token at best

what sort of issues?.....Incident Control issues...or skill issues?

well.. if there is I havent seen the new memo, nor has my station, and it isnt on the SAAS Intranet (that I can see.......although we know how functional and easy to navigate that is)

The Current Operations Procedure for Emergency Driving in the Policys and Procedures section is attached and is quite clear

so if everywhere is catastrophic around you?....where do u go?...where do u tell the neighbour to go when they ask?

anyone for the pool at the Grand at the Bay?

so extreme, severe and very high dangers are ok for us fire heroes  now in the new scale of things? Cool (pun intended).....so now do i prepare, act or survive....hmmm

dont be too surprised if there isnt much of an intake at all this year...if ever.

Theres about to be a couple of new players in the Patient transfer game enter the market and SAAS will gracefully (or otherwise) slowly withdraw from most of it. Its one of the reason almost all of the last guys to enter got Casual contracts

Depending on your motivation for joining PTS, you may find life with these new companies is a little more financially rewarding than SAAS (just to put it out there....i have no tie to either of them), but if ur wanting Emerg work longer term, then that may not be where u want to go


Having said all that.....SAAS will probably start recruiting next week, just to prove me wrong......( I can see Ray sitting there going.....HR? BK (big kahuna) here.....recruit a few PTS types will you....just to filtered over that CnD bloke) 

Helicopters can't do everything !!

but for everything else......charge up the Government Mastercard and get some time with the big DC10 and 45,000 litres.....at the cost of a small country per hour

If we stopped buying new PPE and trucks we could afford more helicopter time.....hmm....might send a suggestion to the Chiefs......i mean we're supposed to come up with cost saving suggestions arent we?